Refs not calling the game

[AM]

I think McDavid should sit out the 4 nations cup with the express reason that hes unsure how refs will call the game and its not worth the risk.

Nhl officiating is unsafe at any speed.

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[LeonDraisaitl29]

Unfortunately I don't think anything will make Connor miss the 4 nations cup, he's way too hyper competitive.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Connor needs to sit it out, and be clear why. Knoblauch, Bowman, and Jackson all need to defend him. Some of the vets- especially the grizzled guys like Perry who have been around and know bullshit when they see it- need to to do the same. It would be the lead story on every sports channel- above even the stupid Four Nations- and no fine from Buttman could erase the embarrassment it would bring his precious game managed league.

Of course that would take balls and I don't think this group has them. They're too happy to go along to get along and they're getting the officiating they deserve as a result.

 

[BlackDogg]

That all want to just make as much money as they can without rippling the water.

 

[Fishy McScales]

I just had a funny picture in my head. If the Oilers have a comfortable lead in the third in the upcoming game against the Nucks, Corey Perry should just grab Garland and pick him up, skating around with him as he's flailing around trying wriggle loose.

I'm childish but that would make me laugh. Make it so.

 

[TB12]

I just had a funny picture in my head. If the Oilers have a comfortable lead in the third in the upcoming game against the Nucks, Corey Perry should just grab Garland and pick him up, skating around with him as he's flailing around trying wriggle loose.

I'm childish but that would make me laugh. Make it so.

i would attach a leash to that collar of a neckguard he wears and then pick him up.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Just send rnh in a 97 jersey that'll teach them.

 

[AUAIOMRN]

This isn't the first time we've seen something like this, where two guys look like they're fighting with each other to get up, but really it's one guy holding both of them down.

The real question is, how are the refs so dumb as to fall for this stuff? This is toddler-level trickery and they still can't see through it.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

This isn't the first time we've seen something like this, where two guys look like they're fighting with each other to get up, but really it's one guy holding both of them down.

The real question is, how are the refs so dumb as to fall for this stuff? This is toddler-level trickery and they still can't see through it.

My opinion is more penalties should be called instead of game management. It would make for 1 really messy season, but the players over time would adapt. Is cross checking even a penalty anymore??

 

[oXo Cube]

If the game was called by the book there would unironically be 20+ penalty calls per game. It would ruin the entertainment value entirely.

It will never happen and the players have figured that out.

 

[tardigrade81]

Funny. In the NHL. You can do whatever you want to McDavid and no call

NFL , you f***ing blow on Mahomo and the refs flag you to kingdom come. Lopsided bullshit in sports. So damn tired of it

 

[soothsayer]

Serevalli on the DFO podcast just said emphatically that no player in the salary cap era has take more abuse with fewer calls than Connor McDavid, and it's not close. He also talked about the serious lack of accountability for refs.

The positive out of McDavid's suspension is hopefully that the NHL executive, made of ex hockey players who were shitty NHL players, will pull their heads out of their asses.

 

[bone]

Serevalli on the DFO podcast just said emphatically that no player in the salary cap era has take more abuse with fewer calls than Connor McDavid, and it's not close. He also talked about the serious lack of accountability for refs.

The positive out of McDavid's suspension is hopefully that the NHL executive, made of ex hockey players who were shitty NHL players, will pull their heads out of their asses.

That's hilarious. Player Safety is led by a guy who nearly had 10 fighting majors for every goal he scored in his career and 5 fighting major for every point he scored in his career.

He'll never understand what stars go through in the NHL.

 

[AM]

A solution could be, extend the game by whatever power plays are called with right of refusal.

 

[brentashton]

Unfortunately I don't think anything will make Connor miss the 4 nations cup, he's way too hyper competitive.

I think McDavid should sit out the 4 nations cup with the express reason that hes unsure how refs will call the game and its not worth the risk.

Unfortunately, I agree with you both, and you are both correct.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I mean with how gambling is promoted so shamelessly, you'd think the NHL might want to get out of these reffing scandals.

 

[bone]

A solution could be, extend the game by whatever power plays are called with right of refusal.

I've been beating this drum for awhile. Name one other sport that increases the standard for what qualifies as a penalty in the final 2 minutes while also reducing the consequence for commiting such a foul.

For example, imagine if the NFL decided that they'll now allow Pass Interfence and Roughing inside the 2 minute warning unless it is the baddest of the bad. And even then if they do call it, that the penalty is reduced to 5 yards instead 15 (or point of incident with PI). Furthermore, if you commit a penalty preventing a touchdown on the last play of the game, it's all good, we'll just give you the penalty on the box score, but since there are zeros on the clock the other team doesn't get to execute a play after applying the penalty.

If they did that, everyone would lose their minds at the stupidity of it. Yet, this is standard practice with hockey.

Or in soccer, if you commit a foul in penalty time that results in a penalty kick, imagine tthey make you take it 20 yards further back or not at all because of the time.

Or in basketball, say they made fouls inside the final minute now only result in a single free throw instead of two and if you commit a foul on a player on a buzzer beater, no worries.

This is what we're told to think is reasonable in hockey. Frankly, it shocks me there aren't way more incidents like these in the final 30 seconds of a 1 goal game.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Wendo, you are a treasure

 

[brentashton]

Wendo, you are a treasure

Someone should photoshop the Oilers Team photo with that f***ing west coast midget blanketing Connor.

 

[Duder54]

If the game was called by the book there would unironically be 20+ penalty calls per game. It would ruin the entertainment value entirely.

It will never happen and the players have figured that out.

Short term, yes. Long term, players would have to adjust i.e. elite players would actually have time and space to showcase just how much better they are than the Conor Garlands of the world.

I think McDavid should sit out the 4 nations cup with the express reason that hes unsure how refs will call the game and its not worth the risk.

Agree 100%. It's a stupid "tournament" in any case.

 

[brentashton]

If the game was called by the book there would unironically be 20+ penalty calls per game. It would ruin the entertainment value entirely.

It will never happen and the players have figured that out.

It will never happen, yes,but I don’t think it would ruin the game were it to happen.

It would temporarily while players got used to the standard change and then it would moderate. It happens like that every time the NHL introduces a new rule change. But I don’t think the NHL and broadcast partners want to experience that type of growing pain on a large scale correction.

However, it would be the best thing long term for the game. The NHL under Bettman has been frustratingly short sighted in some ways (and not in other equally silly ways, ie the Arizona franchise situation).

 

[soothsayer]

In the circumstances, the refs not calling hooking against RNH and Nurse being tripped on the Canucks' powerplay, which directly led to a goal, may have been even more egregious than the non-call against Garland.

 

[K1984]

In the circumstances, the refs not calling hooking against RNH and Nurse being tripped on the Canucks' powerplay, which directly led to a goal, may have been even more egregious than the non-call against Garland.

Taking one in the Miller cross check/Bouchard slash exchange was the most ridiculous of all of it.

Door 1 - nothing happened in the game yet, so taking both then warning the benches that it's just gonna be one going to the box next time lowers the temperature. What good, stable, not f***ing stupid, not interested in dialling up the crowd with an excited penalty call referees would do. The ones (if they exist) that have an interest in keeping things fair and getting control of a game between rivals that could get emotional right out the gate.

Door 2 - arbitrarily take one guy, have a goal scored on the PP, change the complexion of the game, have one team be instantly incensed at you, and dial up the temperature which could lead to more problems.

The RNH/Nurse nonsense could have truly been "missed" even if it was inexcusable. The decision to only take one was a decision (there's no possible way he didn't see both infractions), and one that had a major impact on the game. The slow decline of the game into the gutter started right from the beginning with that call.

 

[alanschu]

Short term, yes. Long term, players would have to adjust i.e. elite players would actually have time and space to showcase just how much better they are than the Conor Garlands of the world.

Yeah this is the thing that gets me. Players will adjust because giving up 20 penalties is a super bad thing.

 

[CROTT]

The refs also chose to ignore the pick play interference on RNH and the trip on Nurse right before the Canucks scored the winning goal. While they have no issues calling the Oilers for a penalty while they're on the PP to even it up. Hyman has been called for that pick play a lot in the past.

Then ignore Garland's BS to neutralize the best player in the league with out raising a single arm for a call, this game reeks of the Refs influencing the result.