TABLE 2 - BEST TEN YEARS, POINTS
Rank|Player|VsX
1 | Wayne Gretzky | 144.7
2 | Gordie Howe | 118.1
3 | Phil Esposito | 117.6
4 | Mario Lemieux | 112
5 | Jaromir Jagr | 105.9
6 | Stan Mikita | 102.5
7 | Bobby Hull | 101.8
8 | Jean Beliveau | 100
9 | Maurice Richard | 97.9
10 | Marcel Dionne | 97.5
11 | Sidney Crosby | 97.4
12 | Ted Lindsay | 95.8
13 | Andy Bathgate | 95.6
14 | Joe Sakic | 94
15 | Alex Ovechkin | 93.5
16 | Bobby Orr | 92.1
17 | Guy Lafleur | 91
18 | Joe Thornton | 90.8
19 | Mike Bossy | 89.4
20 | Howie Morenz | 88.9
21 | Frank Boucher | 88.8
22 | Steve Yzerman | 88.8
23 | Teemu Selanne | 88.7
24 | Bryan Trottier | 87.2
25 | Nels Stewart | 87.1
26 | Bill Cowley | 86.7
27 | Martin St. Louis | 86.3
28 | Adam Oates | 86.2
29 | Jean Ratelle | 85.3
30 | Mark Messier | 85
31 | Norm Ullman | 84.7
32 | Bill Cook | 84.4
33 | Mark Recchi | 84.3
34 | Ron Francis | 84.2
35 | Frank Mahovlich | 84.1
36 | John Bucyk | 83.9
37 | Syl Apps Sr | 83.9
38 | Brett Hull | 83.6
39 | Bobby Clarke | 83.5
40 | Bernie Geoffrion | 83.4
41 | Alex Delvecchio | 82.9
42 | Evgeni Malkin | 82.8
43 | Charlie Conacher | 82.5
44 | Patrick Kane | 82.3
45 | Peter Forsberg | 82.1
46 | Paul Coffey | 82
47 | Marty Barry | 81.8
48 | Dale Hawerchuk | 81.7
49 | Gilbert Perreault | 81.6
50 | Jarome Iginla | 81.5
51 | Toe Blake | 81.4
52 | Jari Kurri | 81.2
53 | Luc Robitaille | 80.9
54 | Peter Stastny | 80.8
55 | Darryl Sittler | 80.4
56 | Busher Jackson | 80.2
57 | Max Bentley | 80
58 | Mats Sundin | 79.9
59 | Rod Gilbert | 79.7
60 | Sweeney Schriner | 79.7
61 | Henrik Sedin | 79.5
62 | Elmer Lach | 79.2
63 | Nicklas Backstrom | 79
64 | Pierre Turgeon | 78.9
65 | Henri Richard | 78.9
66 | Milt Schmidt | 78.8
67 | Paul Kariya | 78.6
68 | Marian Hossa | 78.1
69 | Denis Savard | 78
70 | Theoren Fleury | 77.9
71 | Ryan Getzlaf | 77.9
72 | Mike Modano | 77.7
73 | Syd Howe | 77.7
74 | Daniel Alfredsson | 77.4
75 | Sergei Fedorov | 77.1
76 | Doug Gilmour | 77.1
77 | Pavel Datsyuk | 77.1
78 | Ilya Kovalchuk | 76.9
79 | Doug Bentley | 76.7
80 | Daniel Sedin | 76.4
81 | Jeremy Roenick | 76.1
82 | Eric Lindros | 76
83 | Sid Abel | 75.8
84 | Eric Staal | 75.2
85 | Aurel Joliat | 75.1
86 | Henrik Zetterberg | 74.7
87 | Brendan Shanahan | 74.4
88 | Dickie Moore | 74.3
89 | Roy Conacher | 74.1
90 | Jason Spezza | 74.1
91 | Bernie Federko | 74
92 | Ken Hodge | 74
93 | Keith Tkachuk | 73.9
94 | Ted Kennedy | 73.8
95 | Bernie Nicholls | 73.7
96 | Patrik Elias | 73.6
97 | Brad Richards | 73.2
98 | Markus Naslund | 73
99 | Anze Kopitar | 72.9
100 | Alexander Mogilny | 72.9
101 | Pavel Bure | 72.7
102 | Dany Heatley | 72.3
103 | Doug Weight | 72.2
104 | Michel Goulet | 71.8
105 | Pat LaFontaine | 71.8
106 | Jacques Lemaire | 71.7
107 | Raymond Bourque | 71.5
108 | Yvan Cournoyer | 71.5
109 | Bryan Hextall | 71.3
110 | John LeClair | 71.2
111 | Vincent Damphousse | 71.1
112 | Vincent Lecavalier | 71
TABLE 6 - BEST TEN YEARS, GOALS
Rank|Player|VsX
1 | Bobby Hull | 64.9
2 | Maurice Richard | 61.2
3 | Gordie Howe | 61.1
4 | Phil Esposito | 56.3
5 | Alex Ovechkin | 55.5
6 | Wayne Gretzky | 53.9
7 | Brett Hull | 51.1
8 | Jean Beliveau | 50.4
9 | Mario Lemieux | 49.9
10 | Mike Bossy | 49.4
11 | Frank Mahovlich | 47.3
12 | Nels Stewart | 47.3
13 | Jaromir Jagr | 46.7
14 | Bernie Geoffrion | 45.9
15 | Ted Lindsay | 45.5
16 | Stan Mikita | 45.2
17 | Bill Cook | 45
18 | Marcel Dionne | 44.5
19 | Teemu Selanne | 44.4
20 | Charlie Conacher | 43.7
21 | Ilya Kovalchuk | 43.5
22 | Norm Ullman | 43.3
23 | Jarome Iginla | 43.1
24 | Steve Yzerman | 42.9
25 | Luc Robitaille | 42.7
26 | Roy Conacher | 42.7
27 | Pavel Bure | 42.6
28 | Peter Bondra | 42.1
29 | Guy Lafleur | 41
30 | Keith Tkachuk | 40.6
31 | Joe Sakic | 40.5
32 | Busher Jackson | 40.4
33 | Jari Kurri | 40.2
34 | Andy Bathgate | 39.8
35 | John Bucyk | 39.6
36 | Brendan Shanahan | 39.6
37 | Sweeney Schriner | 39.6
38 | Sidney Crosby | 39.6
39 | Bryan Hextall | 39.5
40 | Toe Blake | 39.4
41 | Mike Gartner | 39.1
| 24.6
Nicklas Backstrom is ahead of some very good players here...
He seems underrated offensively around these parts. The guy has been a consistent point producer and he has five finishes in the top ten for points.
With the exception of Table #13 (I can't find my data source for that), this thread has been updated after the data migration on HFBoards. Let me know if you see any errors/problems.
TABLE 3 - CAREER TOTAL, POINTS/GP | |||
GP | Pts/GP | ||
Bryan Hextall | 449 | 2.01 | 1 |
Syl Apps Sr | 423 | 1.98 | 2 |
Charlie Conacher | 459 | 1.92 | 3 |
Bill Cowley | 549 | 1.79 | 4 |
Sweeney Schriner | 484 | 1.71 | 5 |
Nels Stewart | 650 | 1.70 | 6 |
Howie Morenz | 550 | 1.70 | 7 |
Marty Barry | 509 | 1.68 | 8 |
Toe Blake | 577 | 1.58 | 9 |
Wayne Gretzky | 1487 | 1.56 | 10 |
Busher Jackson | 636 | 1.54 | 11 |
Mario Lemieux | 915 | 1.54 | 12 |
Roy Conacher | 490 | 1.52 | 13 |
Bun Cook | 473 | 1.49 | 14 |
Doug Bentley | 565 | 1.48 | 15 |
Bill Cook | 591 | 1.45 | 16 |
Syd Howe | 698 | 1.44 | 17 |
Herbie Lewis | 483 | 1.44 | 18 |
Maurice Richard | 978 | 1.43 | 19 |
Bobby Orr | 657 | 1.43 | 20 |
Cooney Weiland | 509 | 1.43 | 21 |
Frank Boucher | 670 | 1.42 | 22 |
Elmer Lach | 664 | 1.40 | 23 |
Gordie Howe | 1767 | 1.38 | 24 |
Max Bentley | 645 | 1.36 | 25 |
I guess it doesn't work for points per game:
In theory it should work, but it looks like you're dividing adjusted scoring (which contemplates a modern season length) by actual games played. That's why the table is full of players from the 1930s - you're dividing adjusted points by actual games played, from short seasons. If you used adjusted games played, the results should make sense (I'll see if I have that data handy).
Awesome thanks. Love this vsx stuff
Player | Adj GP | VsX | VsX/GP |
Mario Lemieux | 926 | 1,409 | 1.52 |
Wayne Gretzky | 1,543 | 2,327 | 1.51 |
Bobby Orr | 700 | 940 | 1.34 |
Sidney Crosby | 808 | 1,079 | 1.34 |
Connor McDavid | 127 | 166 | 1.31 |
Syl Apps Sr | 681 | 839 | 1.23 |
Peter Forsberg | 741 | 882 | 1.19 |
Evgeni Malkin | 728 | 866 | 1.19 |
Gordie Howe | 2,061 | 2,444 | 1.19 |
Jean Beliveau | 1,292 | 1,519 | 1.18 |
Phil Esposito | 1,369 | 1,609 | 1.18 |
Mike Bossy | 771 | 894 | 1.16 |
Gordie Drillon | 528 | 607 | 1.15 |
Bobby Hull | 1,203 | 1,376 | 1.14 |
Alex Ovechkin | 955 | 1,080 | 1.13 |
Howie Morenz | 827 | 934 | 1.13 |
Maurice Richard | 1,255 | 1,403 | 1.12 |
Charlie Conacher | 796 | 879 | 1.10 |
Joe Sakic | 1,415 | 1,534 | 1.08 |
Bill Cowley | 910 | 982 | 1.08 |
Jaromir Jagr | 1,777 | 1,914 | 1.08 |
Roy Conacher | 696 | 746 | 1.07 |
Marcel Dionne | 1,388 | 1,484 | 1.07 |
Patrick Kane | 773 | 823 | 1.06 |
Eric Lindros | 790 | 840 | 1.06 |
Bernie Geoffrion | 1,029 | 1,093 | 1.06 |
Stan Mikita | 1,529 | 1,610 | 1.05 |
Artemi Panarin | 162 | 170 | 1.05 |
Steven Stamkos | 620 | 645 | 1.04 |
Pavel Bure | 731 | 753 | 1.03 |
Nicklas Backstrom | 768 | 790 | 1.03 |
Nels Stewart | 1,082 | 1,106 | 1.02 |
John Gaudreau | 160 | 163 | 1.02 |
Ziggy Palffy | 707 | 719 | 1.02 |
Elmer Lach | 917 | 930 | 1.01 |
Doug Bentley | 827 | 838 | 1.01 |
Bill Cook | 843 | 855 | 1.01 |
Sweeney Schriner | 819 | 829 | 1.01 |
Frank Boucher | 943 | 949 | 1.01 |
Max Bentley | 876 | 876 | 1.00 |
Guy Lafleur | 1,161 | 1,158 | 1.00 |
Andy Bathgate | 1,236 | 1,226 | 0.99 |
John Tavares | 621 | 612 | 0.99 |
Bobby Bauer | 536 | 527 | 0.98 |
Steve Yzerman | 1,561 | 1,529 | 0.98 |
Ilya Kovalchuk | 842 | 824 | 0.98 |
Joe Thornton | 1,480 | 1,440 | 0.97 |
Ryan Getzlaf | 892 | 867 | 0.97 |
Brett Hull | 1,309 | 1,271 | 0.97 |
Pavel Datsyuk | 986 | 956 | 0.97 |
Joe Primeau | 543 | 527 | 0.97 |
Toe Blake | 941 | 911 | 0.97 |
Marty Barry | 885 | 853 | 0.96 |
Duke Keats | 153 | 147 | 0.96 |
Jason Spezza | 915 | 878 | 0.96 |
Peter Stastny | 1,002 | 957 | 0.96 |
Jamie Benn | 614 | 587 | 0.96 |
Paul Kariya | 1,022 | 970 | 0.95 |
Frank Mahovlich | 1,328 | 1,260 | 0.95 |
Milt Schmidt | 1,087 | 1,030 | 0.95 |
Ted Lindsay | 1,327 | 1,255 | 0.95 |
Kent Nilsson | 571 | 538 | 0.94 |
Claude Giroux | 690 | 649 | 0.94 |
Alexander Mogilny | 1,023 | 958 | 0.94 |
Teemu Selanne | 1,512 | 1,415 | 0.94 |
Gilbert Perreault | 1,228 | 1,145 | 0.93 |
Pat LaFontaine | 893 | 832 | 0.93 |
Mats Sundin | 1,379 | 1,284 | 0.93 |
Dickie Moore | 840 | 781 | 0.93 |
Adam Oates | 1,379 | 1,282 | 0.93 |
Nikita Kucherov | 285 | 265 | 0.93 |
Rod Gilbert | 1,156 | 1,072 | 0.93 |
Martin St. Louis | 1,168 | 1,083 | 0.93 |
Dick Irvin | 175 | 162 | 0.93 |
Henrik Zetterberg | 1,033 | 950 | 0.92 |
Bobby Clarke | 1,185 | 1,087 | 0.92 |
Sid Abel | 850 | 779 | 0.92 |
Tyler Seguin | 542 | 496 | 0.92 |
Dale Hawerchuk | 1,222 | 1,119 | 0.92 |
Ted Kennedy | 907 | 828 | 0.91 |
Jean Ratelle | 1,371 | 1,251 | 0.91 |
Vladimir Tarasenko | 368 | 335 | 0.91 |
Daniel Alfredsson | 1,279 | 1,162 | 0.91 |
Jonathan Toews | 750 | 681 | 0.91 |
Norm Ullman | 1,584 | 1,434 | 0.91 |
Jacques Lemaire | 894 | 808 | 0.90 |
Theoren Fleury | 1,120 | 1,011 | 0.90 |
Busher Jackson | 1,087 | 980 | 0.90 |
Pierre Turgeon | 1,335 | 1,200 | 0.90 |
Rick Martin | 708 | 635 | 0.90 |
Anze Kopitar | 873 | 783 | 0.90 |
Mark Messier | 1,808 | 1,620 | 0.90 |
Erik Karlsson | 568 | 508 | 0.89 |
Jack Eichel | 142 | 127 | 0.89 |
Pavol Demitra | 858 | 767 | 0.89 |
Billy Taylor | 513 | 458 | 0.89 |
Ron Francis | 1,778 | 1,588 | 0.89 |
Alex Delvecchio | 1,765 | 1,575 | 0.89 |
John Bucyk | 1,709 | 1,519 | 0.89 |
Bryan Trottier | 1,309 | 1,159 | 0.89 |
I put this together quickly (let me know if something looks out of line). Basically it's career VsX (for points) divided by games played (adjusted so every season is 82 games). The table is for players with 100+ games played (welcome Connor McDavid):
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Player Adj GP VsX VsX/GP Mario Lemieux 926 1,409 1.52 Wayne Gretzky 1,543 2,327 1.51 Bobby Orr 700 940 1.34 Sidney Crosby 808 1,079 1.34 Connor McDavid 127 166 1.31 Syl Apps Sr 681 839 1.23 Peter Forsberg 741 882 1.19 Evgeni Malkin 728 866 1.19 Gordie Howe 2,061 2,444 1.19 Jean Beliveau 1,292 1,519 1.18 Phil Esposito 1,369 1,609 1.18 Mike Bossy 771 894 1.16 Gordie Drillon 528 607 1.15 Bobby Hull 1,203 1,376 1.14 Alex Ovechkin 955 1,080 1.13 Howie Morenz 827 934 1.13 Maurice Richard 1,255 1,403 1.12 Charlie Conacher 796 879 1.10 Joe Sakic 1,415 1,534 1.08 Bill Cowley 910 982 1.08 Jaromir Jagr 1,777 1,914 1.08 Roy Conacher 696 746 1.07 Marcel Dionne 1,388 1,484 1.07 Patrick Kane 773 823 1.06 Eric Lindros 790 840 1.06 Bernie Geoffrion 1,029 1,093 1.06 Stan Mikita 1,529 1,610 1.05 Artemi Panarin 162 170 1.05 Steven Stamkos 620 645 1.04 Pavel Bure 731 753 1.03 Nicklas Backstrom 768 790 1.03 Nels Stewart 1,082 1,106 1.02 John Gaudreau 160 163 1.02 Ziggy Palffy 707 719 1.02 Elmer Lach 917 930 1.01 Doug Bentley 827 838 1.01 Bill Cook 843 855 1.01 Sweeney Schriner 819 829 1.01 Frank Boucher 943 949 1.01 Max Bentley 876 876 1.00 Guy Lafleur 1,161 1,158 1.00 Andy Bathgate 1,236 1,226 0.99 John Tavares 621 612 0.99 Bobby Bauer 536 527 0.98 Steve Yzerman 1,561 1,529 0.98 Ilya Kovalchuk 842 824 0.98 Joe Thornton 1,480 1,440 0.97 Ryan Getzlaf 892 867 0.97 Brett Hull 1,309 1,271 0.97 Pavel Datsyuk 986 956 0.97 Joe Primeau 543 527 0.97 Toe Blake 941 911 0.97 Marty Barry 885 853 0.96 Duke Keats 153 147 0.96 Jason Spezza 915 878 0.96 Peter Stastny 1,002 957 0.96 Jamie Benn 614 587 0.96 Paul Kariya 1,022 970 0.95 Frank Mahovlich 1,328 1,260 0.95 Milt Schmidt 1,087 1,030 0.95 Ted Lindsay 1,327 1,255 0.95 Kent Nilsson 571 538 0.94 Claude Giroux 690 649 0.94 Alexander Mogilny 1,023 958 0.94 Teemu Selanne 1,512 1,415 0.94 Gilbert Perreault 1,228 1,145 0.93 Pat LaFontaine 893 832 0.93 Mats Sundin 1,379 1,284 0.93 Dickie Moore 840 781 0.93 Adam Oates 1,379 1,282 0.93 Nikita Kucherov 285 265 0.93 Rod Gilbert 1,156 1,072 0.93 Martin St. Louis 1,168 1,083 0.93 Dick Irvin 175 162 0.93 Henrik Zetterberg 1,033 950 0.92 Bobby Clarke 1,185 1,087 0.92 Sid Abel 850 779 0.92 Tyler Seguin 542 496 0.92 Dale Hawerchuk 1,222 1,119 0.92 Ted Kennedy 907 828 0.91 Jean Ratelle 1,371 1,251 0.91 Vladimir Tarasenko 368 335 0.91 Daniel Alfredsson 1,279 1,162 0.91 Jonathan Toews 750 681 0.91 Norm Ullman 1,584 1,434 0.91 Jacques Lemaire 894 808 0.90 Theoren Fleury 1,120 1,011 0.90 Busher Jackson 1,087 980 0.90 Pierre Turgeon 1,335 1,200 0.90 Rick Martin 708 635 0.90 Anze Kopitar 873 783 0.90 Mark Messier 1,808 1,620 0.90 Erik Karlsson 568 508 0.89 Jack Eichel 142 127 0.89 Pavol Demitra 858 767 0.89 Billy Taylor 513 458 0.89 Ron Francis 1,778 1,588 0.89 Alex Delvecchio 1,765 1,575 0.89 John Bucyk 1,709 1,519 0.89 Bryan Trottier 1,309 1,159 0.89
Very revealing. Seems that playing more games is mainly a disadvantage except for Johnny Bucyk who had a late career spurt. Reasons do not matter.
Conversely a relatively short career - Gordie Drillon, Sweeney Schriner creates interesting groupings at times. Drillon with Ovechkin, Bobby Hull and Bossy.
There are exceptions of course (Bucyk probably being the most notable), but generally offensive production diminishes over time. Thus, comparing players with very different career lengths based solely on PPG will usually favour the player with the shorter career.
A better statistic (which I can post if anyone is interested) is PPG over the best X seasons.
There are exceptions of course (Bucyk probably being the most notable), but generally offensive production diminishes over time. Thus, comparing players with very different career lengths based solely on PPG will usually favour the player with the shorter career.
A better statistic (which I can post if anyone is interested) is PPG over the best X seasons.
Didn't you ran the numbers for my PPGVsX system sometimes last year in the ATD2017 Summary thread (seasons were unweighted though)? Also, the ReplacementVsX numbers which had similar results.Oh and finally, the best consecutive seasons was also a nice touch.
If you ever have the time to re-do those, would be very interesting.The benchmarks I used should still be in this thread.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/atd-summary-2017.2203301/page-3
I am also interested in any other PPG numbers and systems you came up with.
I'll have to look for that. I probably have that saved on another computer.
The nice thing about VsX is you can look at the data so many different ways. For example if I wanted to do a list of best players, based on goals per game, over the 5 best non-consecutive seasons, with a minimum 20 adjusted games per season, I can do that. The downside is it creates a bunch of different file and sometimes it's hard for me to keep track of what's what.
HockeyOutsider, can you a do a VsX 15?
1 | Wayne Gretzky | 132.2 |
2 | Gordie Howe | 110.3 |
3 | Phil Esposito | 101.5 |
4 | Jaromir Jagr | 96.7 |
5 | Mario Lemieux | 91.9 |
6 | Stan Mikita | 91.6 |
7 | Bobby Hull | 90.8 |
8 | Jean Beliveau | 90.2 |
9 | Marcel Dionne | 90.1 |
10 | Joe Sakic | 87.8 |
11 | Maurice Richard | 86.5 |
12 | Joe Thornton | 84.9 |
13 | Steve Yzerman | 82.6 |
14 | Andy Bathgate | 81.2 |
15 | Ted Lindsay | 79.8 |
16 | Norm Ullman | 79.7 |
17 | Teemu Selanne | 79.6 |
18 | John Bucyk | 79.0 |
19 | Ron Francis | 78.6 |
20 | Mark Messier | 78.3 |
21 | Alex Delvecchio | 78.0 |
22 | Brett Hull | 77.7 |
23 | Adam Oates | 77.5 |
24 | Frank Mahovlich | 77.3 |
25 | Jean Ratelle | 77.1 |
26 | Mark Recchi | 76.8 |
27 | Mats Sundin | 76.1 |
28 | Jarome Iginla | 75.4 |
29 | Guy Lafleur | 75.4 |
30 | Paul Coffey | 74.1 |
31 | Luc Robitaille | 74.0 |
32 | Nels Stewart | 73.7 |
33 | Bryan Trottier | 73.6 |
34 | Dale Hawerchuk | 73.1 |
35 | Gilbert Perreault | 72.5 |
36 | Bobby Clarke | 72.4 |
37 | Martin St. Louis | 72.0 |
38 | Alex Ovechkin | 72.0 |
39 | Henri Richard | 72.0 |
40 | Sidney Crosby | 71.9 |
41 | Pierre Turgeon | 71.9 |
42 | Mike Modano | 71.5 |
43 | Bernie Geoffrion | 71.4 |
44 | Marian Hossa | 71.0 |
45 | Rod Gilbert | 70.9 |
46 | Jari Kurri | 70.4 |
47 | Daniel Alfredsson | 70.3 |
48 | Brendan Shanahan | 69.1 |
49 | Henrik Sedin | 69.0 |
50 | Doug Gilmour | 69.0 |
51 | Jeremy Roenick | 68.5 |
52 | Sergei Fedorov | 68.5 |
53 | Milt Schmidt | 67.6 |
54 | Theoren Fleury | 67.4 |
55 | Syd Howe | 66.8 |
56 | Denis Savard | 66.7 |
57 | Raymond Bourque | 66.7 |
58 | Daniel Sedin | 66.7 |
59 | Bill Cowley | 65.5 |
60 | Busher Jackson | 65.4 |
61 | Patrik Elias | 65.1 |
62 | Darryl Sittler | 64.9 |
63 | Dave Keon | 64.8 |
64 | Vincent Damphousse | 64.7 |
65 | Paul Kariya | 64.7 |
66 | Keith Tkachuk | 64.5 |
67 | Brad Richards | 64.5 |
68 | Red Kelly | 64.1 |
69 | Patrick Marleau | 64.0 |
70 | Peter Stastny | 63.8 |
71 | Pavel Datsyuk | 63.7 |
72 | Henrik Zetterberg | 63.3 |
73 | Frank Boucher | 63.3 |
74 | Bobby Orr | 62.7 |
75 | Bernie Nicholls | 62.6 |
76 | Rod Brind'Amour | 62.5 |
77 | Alexander Mogilny | 62.3 |
78 | Howie Morenz | 62.2 |
79 | Elmer Lach | 62.0 |
80 | Doug Weight | 61.9 |
81 | Mike Gartner | 61.9 |
82 | Ray Whitney | 61.8 |
83 | Vincent Lecavalier | 61.6 |
84 | Nicklas Lidstrom | 60.9 |
85 | Al MacInnis | 60.9 |
86 | Joe Nieuwendyk | 60.8 |
87 | Toe Blake | 60.7 |
88 | Alex Kovalev | 60.5 |
89 | Dave Andreychuk | 60.5 |
90 | Michel Goulet | 60.2 |
91 | Dino Ciccarelli | 59.8 |
92 | Mike Bossy | 59.6 |
93 | Brian Leetch | 59.5 |
94 | Eric Staal | 59.5 |
95 | Bernie Federko | 59.5 |
96 | Ken Hodge | 59.4 |
97 | Alex Tanguay | 59.0 |
98 | Peter Forsberg | 58.8 |
99 | Bryan Hextall | 58.8 |
100 | Denis Potvin | 58.7 |
101 | Hooley Smith | 58.6 |
102 | Charlie Conacher | 58.6 |
103 | Jason Spezza | 58.5 |
104 | Yvan Cournoyer | 58.5 |
105 | Dit Clapper | 58.5 |
106 | Max Bentley | 58.4 |
107 | Shane Doan | 58.4 |
108 | Tony Amonte | 58.3 |
109 | Phil Housley | 58.0 |
110 | Ryan Getzlaf | 57.8 |
111 | Dean Prentice | 57.7 |
112 | Evgeni Malkin | 57.7 |
113 | Markus Naslund | 57.5 |
114 | Glenn Anderson | 57.2 |
115 | Bill Cook | 57.0 |
116 | Marty Barry | 56.9 |
117 | Peter Bondra | 56.8 |
118 | Joe Mullen | 56.3 |
119 | Mike Ribeiro | 56.1 |
120 | Eric Lindros | 56.0 |
121 | Syl Apps Sr | 55.9 |
122 | Doug Bentley | 55.8 |
123 | Bert Olmstead | 55.5 |
124 | Pat LaFontaine | 55.5 |
125 | Aurel Joliat | 55.3 |
126 | Sweeney Schriner | 55.3 |
127 | Ted Kennedy | 55.2 |
128 | Dave Taylor | 55.2 |
129 | Ilya Kovalchuk | 54.9 |
130 | Patrick Kane | 54.9 |
131 | Steve Larmer | 54.8 |
132 | Jason Arnott | 54.7 |
133 | Lanny McDonald | 54.5 |
134 | Owen Nolan | 54.3 |
135 | Bobby Rousseau | 54.2 |
136 | Bobby Smith | 54.1 |
137 | Rick Nash | 54.1 |
138 | Pit Martin | 54.1 |
139 | Larry Murphy | 54.0 |
140 | Pat Verbeek | 53.9 |
141 | Milan Hejduk | 53.9 |
142 | Jacques Lemaire | 53.8 |
143 | Phil Goyette | 53.7 |
144 | Bill Mosienko | 53.6 |
145 | John LeClair | 53.6 |
146 | Murray Oliver | 53.5 |
147 | Marian Gaborik | 53.4 |
148 | Rick Middleton | 53.4 |
149 | Johnny Gottselig | 53.3 |
150 | Brian Bellows | 53.2 |
151 | Nicklas Backstrom | 52.7 |
152 | Woody Dumart | 52.6 |
153 | Ryan Smyth | 52.5 |
154 | Brian Propp | 52.3 |
155 | Dany Heatley | 52.3 |
156 | George Armstrong | 52.2 |
157 | Anze Kopitar | 52.2 |
158 | Dickie Moore | 52.1 |
159 | Bob Nevin | 52.0 |
160 | Alexei Yashin | 52.0 |
161 | Sid Abel | 52.0 |
162 | Bill Guerin | 51.9 |
163 | Butch Goring | 51.9 |
164 | Paul Thompson | 51.8 |
165 | Saku Koivu | 51.7 |
166 | Cliff Ronning | 51.5 |
167 | Pavol Demitra | 51.0 |
168 | Brad Park | 50.8 |
169 | Scott Gomez | 50.7 |
170 | Corey Perry | 50.6 |
171 | Rick Tocchet | 50.6 |
172 | Garry Unger | 50.6 |
173 | Lorne Carr | 50.4 |
174 | Kirk Muller | 50.3 |
175 | Bill Barber | 50.3 |
176 | Steve Sullivan | 50.2 |
177 | Pavel Bure | 50.2 |
178 | Gary Roberts | 50.2 |
179 | Vyacheslav Kozlov | 50.0 |
180 | Bob Pulford | 49.8 |
181 | Sergei Zubov | 49.8 |
182 | Roy Conacher | 49.7 |
183 | Todd Bertuzzi | 49.7 |
184 | Phil Watson | 49.6 |
185 | Ray Ferraro | 49.6 |
186 | Vic Hadfield | 49.3 |
187 | Olli Jokinen | 49.3 |
188 | Ivan Boldirev | 49.2 |
189 | Sergei Gonchar | 49.2 |
190 | Ralph Backstrom | 49.1 |
191 | Billy Harris | 49.0 |
192 | Steve Thomas | 49.0 |
193 | Don McKenney | 49.0 |
194 | Mush March | 48.9 |
195 | Thomas Vanek | 48.9 |
196 | Claude Provost | 48.9 |
197 | Wayne Cashman | 48.8 |
198 | Miroslav Satan | 48.6 |
199 | Cooney Weiland | 48.4 |
200 | Neal Broten | 48.2 |
Interesting. What about comparisons for other data like PIMs, shots, saves, etc.?
I have PIM data and it would be easy to run some reports (trickier if you want that normalized/adjusted in some way, but probably not too difficult).
I know that I had shots and saves at one point, but I'm not sure where the file is now. I'll have to look for that one as well.
There are exceptions of course (Bucyk probably being the most notable), but generally offensive production diminishes over time. Thus, comparing players with very different career lengths based solely on PPG will usually favour the player with the shorter career.
A better statistic (which I can post if anyone is interested) is PPG over the best X seasons.
Sure. Here's the sum of players' best 15 seasons (non consecutive), divided by 15:
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1 Wayne Gretzky 132.2 2 Gordie Howe 110.3 3 Phil Esposito 101.5 4 Jaromir Jagr 96.7 5 Mario Lemieux 91.9 6 Stan Mikita 91.6 7 Bobby Hull 90.8 8 Jean Beliveau 90.2 9 Marcel Dionne 90.1 10 Joe Sakic 87.8 11 Maurice Richard 86.5 12 Joe Thornton 84.9 13 Steve Yzerman 82.6 14 Andy Bathgate 81.2 15 Ted Lindsay 79.8 16 Norm Ullman 79.7 17 Teemu Selanne 79.6 18 John Bucyk 79.0 19 Ron Francis 78.6 20 Mark Messier 78.3 21 Alex Delvecchio 78.0 22 Brett Hull 77.7 23 Adam Oates 77.5 24 Frank Mahovlich 77.3 25 Jean Ratelle 77.1 26 Mark Recchi 76.8 27 Mats Sundin 76.1 28 Jarome Iginla 75.4 29 Guy Lafleur 75.4 30 Paul Coffey 74.1 31 Luc Robitaille 74.0 32 Nels Stewart 73.7 33 Bryan Trottier 73.6 34 Dale Hawerchuk 73.1 35 Gilbert Perreault 72.5 36 Bobby Clarke 72.4 37 Martin St. Louis 72.0 38 Alex Ovechkin 72.0 39 Henri Richard 72.0 40 Sidney Crosby 71.9 41 Pierre Turgeon 71.9 42 Mike Modano 71.5 43 Bernie Geoffrion 71.4 44 Marian Hossa 71.0 45 Rod Gilbert 70.9 46 Jari Kurri 70.4 47 Daniel Alfredsson 70.3 48 Brendan Shanahan 69.1 49 Henrik Sedin 69.0 50 Doug Gilmour 69.0 51 Jeremy Roenick 68.5 52 Sergei Fedorov 68.5 53 Milt Schmidt 67.6 54 Theoren Fleury 67.4 55 Syd Howe 66.8 56 Denis Savard 66.7 57 Raymond Bourque 66.7 58 Daniel Sedin 66.7 59 Bill Cowley 65.5 60 Busher Jackson 65.4 61 Patrik Elias 65.1 62 Darryl Sittler 64.9 63 Dave Keon 64.8 64 Vincent Damphousse 64.7 65 Paul Kariya 64.7 66 Keith Tkachuk 64.5 67 Brad Richards 64.5 68 Red Kelly 64.1 69 Patrick Marleau 64.0 70 Peter Stastny 63.8 71 Pavel Datsyuk 63.7 72 Henrik Zetterberg 63.3 73 Frank Boucher 63.3 74 Bobby Orr 62.7 75 Bernie Nicholls 62.6 76 Rod Brind'Amour 62.5 77 Alexander Mogilny 62.3 78 Howie Morenz 62.2 79 Elmer Lach 62.0 80 Doug Weight 61.9 81 Mike Gartner 61.9 82 Ray Whitney 61.8 83 Vincent Lecavalier 61.6 84 Nicklas Lidstrom 60.9 85 Al MacInnis 60.9 86 Joe Nieuwendyk 60.8 87 Toe Blake 60.7 88 Alex Kovalev 60.5 89 Dave Andreychuk 60.5 90 Michel Goulet 60.2 91 Dino Ciccarelli 59.8 92 Mike Bossy 59.6 93 Brian Leetch 59.5 94 Eric Staal 59.5 95 Bernie Federko 59.5 96 Ken Hodge 59.4 97 Alex Tanguay 59.0 98 Peter Forsberg 58.8 99 Bryan Hextall 58.8 100 Denis Potvin 58.7 101 Hooley Smith 58.6 102 Charlie Conacher 58.6 103 Jason Spezza 58.5 104 Yvan Cournoyer 58.5 105 Dit Clapper 58.5 106 Max Bentley 58.4 107 Shane Doan 58.4 108 Tony Amonte 58.3 109 Phil Housley 58.0 110 Ryan Getzlaf 57.8 111 Dean Prentice 57.7 112 Evgeni Malkin 57.7 113 Markus Naslund 57.5 114 Glenn Anderson 57.2 115 Bill Cook 57.0 116 Marty Barry 56.9 117 Peter Bondra 56.8 118 Joe Mullen 56.3 119 Mike Ribeiro 56.1 120 Eric Lindros 56.0 121 Syl Apps Sr 55.9 122 Doug Bentley 55.8 123 Bert Olmstead 55.5 124 Pat LaFontaine 55.5 125 Aurel Joliat 55.3 126 Sweeney Schriner 55.3 127 Ted Kennedy 55.2 128 Dave Taylor 55.2 129 Ilya Kovalchuk 54.9 130 Patrick Kane 54.9 131 Steve Larmer 54.8 132 Jason Arnott 54.7 133 Lanny McDonald 54.5 134 Owen Nolan 54.3 135 Bobby Rousseau 54.2 136 Bobby Smith 54.1 137 Rick Nash 54.1 138 Pit Martin 54.1 139 Larry Murphy 54.0 140 Pat Verbeek 53.9 141 Milan Hejduk 53.9 142 Jacques Lemaire 53.8 143 Phil Goyette 53.7 144 Bill Mosienko 53.6 145 John LeClair 53.6 146 Murray Oliver 53.5 147 Marian Gaborik 53.4 148 Rick Middleton 53.4 149 Johnny Gottselig 53.3 150 Brian Bellows 53.2 151 Nicklas Backstrom 52.7 152 Woody Dumart 52.6 153 Ryan Smyth 52.5 154 Brian Propp 52.3 155 Dany Heatley 52.3 156 George Armstrong 52.2 157 Anze Kopitar 52.2 158 Dickie Moore 52.1 159 Bob Nevin 52.0 160 Alexei Yashin 52.0 161 Sid Abel 52.0 162 Bill Guerin 51.9 163 Butch Goring 51.9 164 Paul Thompson 51.8 165 Saku Koivu 51.7 166 Cliff Ronning 51.5 167 Pavol Demitra 51.0 168 Brad Park 50.8 169 Scott Gomez 50.7 170 Corey Perry 50.6 171 Rick Tocchet 50.6 172 Garry Unger 50.6 173 Lorne Carr 50.4 174 Kirk Muller 50.3 175 Bill Barber 50.3 176 Steve Sullivan 50.2 177 Pavel Bure 50.2 178 Gary Roberts 50.2 179 Vyacheslav Kozlov 50.0 180 Bob Pulford 49.8 181 Sergei Zubov 49.8 182 Roy Conacher 49.7 183 Todd Bertuzzi 49.7 184 Phil Watson 49.6 185 Ray Ferraro 49.6 186 Vic Hadfield 49.3 187 Olli Jokinen 49.3 188 Ivan Boldirev 49.2 189 Sergei Gonchar 49.2 190 Ralph Backstrom 49.1 191 Billy Harris 49.0 192 Steve Thomas 49.0 193 Don McKenney 49.0 194 Mush March 48.9 195 Thomas Vanek 48.9 196 Claude Provost 48.9 197 Wayne Cashman 48.8 198 Miroslav Satan 48.6 199 Cooney Weiland 48.4 200 Neal Broten 48.2
Didn't you ran the numbers for my PPGVsX system sometimes last year in the ATD2017 Summary thread (seasons were unweighted though)?
Players | Three years | Five years | Seven years | Ten years | Fifteen years |
Wayne Gretzky | 1.70 | 1.61 | 1.57 | 1.47 | 1.37 |
Mario Lemieux | 1.51 | 1.43 | 1.39 | 1.29 | - |
Phil Esposito | 1.55 | 1.40 | 1.31 | 1.18 | 1.04 |
Gordie Howe | 1.37 | 1.29 | 1.22 | 1.15 | 1.09 |
Bobby Orr | 1.47 | 1.33 | 1.22 | - | - |
Guy Lafleur | 1.20 | 1.16 | 1.10 | 0.98 | 0.85 |
Jaromir Jagr | 1.13 | 1.11 | 1.09 | 1.04 | 0.97 |
Sidney Crosby | 1.18 | 1.12 | 1.09 | 1.05 | - |
Bobby Hull | 1.19 | 1.11 | 1.08 | 1.04 | 0.95 |
Stan Mikita | 1.15 | 1.09 | 1.07 | 1.03 | 0.97 |
Jean Beliveau | 1.12 | 1.08 | 1.06 | 1.02 | 0.98 |
Ted Lindsay | 1.13 | 1.10 | 1.05 | 0.97 | 0.83 |
Marcel Dionne | 1.14 | 1.08 | 1.04 | 0.99 | 0.92 |
Syl Apps Sr | 1.09 | 1.06 | 1.03 | 0.97 | - |
Bill Cowley | 1.19 | 1.10 | 1.02 | 0.97 | - |
Bernie Geoffrion | 1.09 | 1.05 | 1.01 | 0.96 | 0.87 |
Maurice Richard | 1.04 | 1.02 | 1.01 | 0.98 | 0.92 |
Evgeni Malkin | 1.07 | 1.03 | 1.00 | 0.95 | - |
Charlie Conacher | 1.17 | 1.09 | 1.00 | 0.85 | - |
Howie Morenz | 1.15 | 1.07 | 0.99 | 0.91 | - |
Mike Bossy | 1.07 | 1.01 | 0.97 | 0.94 | - |
Alex Ovechkin | 1.04 | 1.00 | 0.97 | 0.93 | - |
Andy Bathgate | 1.00 | 1.00 | 0.96 | 0.91 | 0.82 |
Bryan Trottier | 1.12 | 1.02 | 0.96 | 0.89 | 0.80 |
Eric Lindros | 1.02 | 0.99 | 0.96 | 0.86 | - |
Joe Thornton | 1.04 | 0.99 | 0.95 | 0.90 | 0.85 |
Steve Yzerman | 1.05 | 1.00 | 0.94 | 0.89 | 0.85 |
Joe Sakic | 0.99 | 0.96 | 0.94 | 0.90 | 0.87 |
Busher Jackson | 1.03 | 1.02 | 0.93 | 0.82 | 0.73 |
Elmer Lach | 0.99 | 0.96 | 0.93 | 0.88 | - |
Jari Kurri | 1.09 | 1.00 | 0.93 | 0.85 | 0.77 |
Peter Forsberg | 1.00 | 0.95 | 0.93 | 0.87 | - |
Paul Coffey | 0.98 | 0.95 | 0.93 | 0.87 | 0.80 |
Bill Cook | 1.06 | 0.99 | 0.92 | 0.81 | - |
Jean Ratelle | 1.02 | 0.96 | 0.92 | 0.88 | 0.82 |
Max Bentley | 1.04 | 0.99 | 0.92 | 0.84 | - |
Peter Stastny | 0.98 | 0.95 | 0.92 | 0.86 | - |
Patrick Kane | 1.04 | 0.97 | 0.92 | 0.83 | - |
Sweeney Schriner | 1.03 | 0.98 | 0.92 | 0.84 | - |
Frank Boucher | 0.96 | 0.93 | 0.91 | 0.85 | - |
Bobby Clarke | 0.98 | 0.94 | 0.91 | 0.83 | 0.76 |
Doug Bentley | 0.97 | 0.94 | 0.91 | 0.83 | - |
Norm Ullman | 1.01 | 0.96 | 0.91 | 0.86 | 0.81 |
Frank Mahovlich | 0.95 | 0.93 | 0.90 | 0.86 | 0.81 |
Mark Messier | 0.98 | 0.93 | 0.90 | 0.87 | 0.83 |
Teemu Selanne | 0.95 | 0.92 | 0.90 | 0.87 | 0.82 |
Gordie Drillon | 1.04 | 0.97 | 0.90 | - | - |
John Bucyk | 1.01 | 0.93 | 0.89 | 0.86 | 0.82 |
Nels Stewart | 0.96 | 0.92 | 0.89 | 0.86 | 0.80 |
Martin St. Louis | 0.98 | 0.94 | 0.89 | 0.83 | 0.75 |
Adam Oates | 1.01 | 0.94 | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.79 |
Denis Savard | 0.95 | 0.91 | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.74 |
Darryl Sittler | 0.96 | 0.93 | 0.88 | 0.82 | 0.72 |
Milt Schmidt | 0.95 | 0.91 | 0.88 | 0.83 | 0.75 |
Marty Barry | 0.96 | 0.92 | 0.88 | 0.79 | - |
Gilbert Perreault | 0.91 | 0.89 | 0.87 | 0.84 | 0.79 |
Henri Richard | 0.93 | 0.90 | 0.87 | 0.84 | 0.77 |
Ron Francis | 0.93 | 0.89 | 0.87 | 0.83 | 0.79 |
Ken Hodge | 1.08 | 0.95 | 0.86 | 0.78 | 0.69 |
Pavel Datsyuk | 0.89 | 0.88 | 0.86 | 0.83 | 0.76 |
Rod Gilbert | 0.93 | 0.89 | 0.86 | 0.82 | 0.76 |
Toe Blake | 0.91 | 0.88 | 0.86 | 0.82 | - |
Ryan Getzlaf | 0.91 | 0.88 | 0.86 | 0.81 | - |
Roy Conacher | 0.92 | 0.89 | 0.85 | - | - |
Nicklas Backstrom | 0.89 | 0.88 | 0.85 | 0.80 | - |
Daniel Alfredsson | 0.95 | 0.88 | 0.85 | 0.81 | 0.76 |
Yvan Cournoyer | 0.93 | 0.88 | 0.85 | 0.79 | 0.69 |
Dale Hawerchuk | 0.94 | 0.89 | 0.85 | 0.80 | 0.75 |
Brett Hull | 0.93 | 0.89 | 0.85 | 0.81 | 0.77 |
Pierre Turgeon | 0.91 | 0.89 | 0.85 | 0.81 | 0.75 |
Ilya Kovalchuk | 0.92 | 0.88 | 0.85 | 0.79 | - |
Sid Abel | 0.93 | 0.90 | 0.85 | 0.77 | - |
Alex Delvecchio | 0.89 | 0.86 | 0.85 | 0.83 | 0.78 |
Jason Spezza | 0.94 | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.79 | - |
Jarome Iginla | 0.95 | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.79 | 0.74 |
Dickie Moore | 1.01 | 0.93 | 0.84 | 0.74 | - |
Pavel Bure | 0.91 | 0.88 | 0.83 | - | - |
Henrik Zetterberg | 0.87 | 0.84 | 0.83 | 0.78 | 0.72 |
Bernie Nicholls | 0.94 | 0.87 | 0.83 | 0.78 | 0.71 |
Pat LaFontaine | 0.96 | 0.87 | 0.83 | 0.76 | - |
Ted Kennedy | 0.92 | 0.87 | 0.82 | 0.77 | - |
Paul Thompson | 0.95 | 0.89 | 0.82 | 0.70 | - |
Michel Goulet | 0.95 | 0.89 | 0.82 | 0.74 | 0.67 |
Daniel Sedin | 0.94 | 0.87 | 0.82 | 0.77 | 0.69 |
Henrik Sedin | 0.91 | 0.86 | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.70 |
Paul Kariya | 0.89 | 0.85 | 0.82 | 0.76 | - |
Bernie Federko | 0.86 | 0.84 | 0.82 | 0.77 | - |
Alexander Mogilny | 0.86 | 0.84 | 0.81 | 0.78 | 0.71 |
Mark Recchi | 0.85 | 0.83 | 0.81 | 0.78 | 0.73 |
John Tavares | 0.91 | 0.86 | 0.81 | - | - |
Jacques Lemaire | 0.87 | 0.83 | 0.81 | 0.76 | - |
Steven Stamkos | 0.93 | 0.89 | 0.81 | - | - |
Kent Nilsson | 0.85 | 0.83 | 0.81 | - | - |
Phil Goyette | 0.90 | 0.85 | 0.80 | 0.73 | 0.61 |
Jamie Benn | 0.93 | 0.86 | 0.80 | - | - |
Dave Taylor | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.66 |
Ziggy Palffy | 0.85 | 0.82 | 0.80 | 0.74 | - |
Dany Heatley | 0.90 | 0.86 | 0.80 | 0.73 | - |
Doug Gilmour | 0.90 | 0.83 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.71 |
Luc Robitaille | 0.84 | 0.81 | 0.80 | 0.78 | 0.73 |
Claude Giroux | 0.90 | 0.86 | 0.80 | - | - |
Hooley Smith | 0.92 | 0.87 | 0.80 | 0.71 | 0.62 |
Herbie Lewis | 0.87 | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.69 | - |
Mike Modano | 0.85 | 0.82 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.72 |
Mats Sundin | 0.82 | 0.81 | 0.79 | 0.77 | 0.75 |
Marian Hossa | 0.87 | 0.83 | 0.79 | 0.76 | 0.73 |
Pavol Demitra | 0.83 | 0.81 | 0.79 | 0.75 | - |
Aurel Joliat | 0.91 | 0.85 | 0.79 | 0.72 | - |
Lynn Patrick | 0.91 | 0.87 | 0.79 | 0.69 | - |
Theoren Fleury | 0.86 | 0.82 | 0.79 | 0.74 | 0.68 |
Sergei Fedorov | 0.89 | 0.83 | 0.79 | 0.75 | 0.70 |
Syd Howe | 0.85 | 0.81 | 0.79 | 0.75 | 0.68 |
Marc Savard | 0.89 | 0.84 | 0.78 | 0.71 | - |
Keith Tkachuk | 0.84 | 0.81 | 0.78 | 0.76 | 0.71 |
Markus Naslund | 0.94 | 0.86 | 0.78 | 0.69 | 0.59 |
Red Kelly | 0.83 | 0.80 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.67 |
Rick Martin | 0.89 | 0.82 | 0.77 | - | - |
Bert Olmstead | 0.83 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.71 | - |
Patrik Elias | 0.83 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.67 |
Eric Staal | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.73 | - |
Raymond Bourque | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.69 |
Cecil Dillon | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.68 | - |
Bryan Hextall | 0.91 | 0.84 | 0.76 | 0.69 | 0.60 |
Joe Primeau | 1.01 | 0.91 | 0.76 | - | - |
Marian Gaborik | 0.82 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.64 |
John LeClair | 0.82 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.68 | - |
Brad Richards | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.66 |
Jeremy Roenick | 0.80 | 0.78 | 0.76 | 0.73 | 0.69 |
Pete Mahovlich | 0.88 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.71 | - |
Phil Watson | 0.86 | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.69 | - |
Rick Middleton | 0.82 | 0.79 | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.63 |
Dave Keon | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.67 |
Anze Kopitar | 0.79 | 0.77 | 0.75 | 0.72 | - |
Denis Potvin | 0.84 | 0.80 | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.65 |
Bill Mosienko | 0.83 | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.72 | - |
Vincent Lecavalier | 0.83 | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.66 |
Bobby Rousseau | 0.88 | 0.80 | 0.75 | 0.69 | - |
Brendan Shanahan | 0.80 | 0.77 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.69 |
Corey Perry | 0.85 | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.70 | - |
Lanny McDonald | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.63 |
Rene Robert | 0.81 | 0.79 | 0.75 | 0.69 | - |
Cooney Weiland | 0.87 | 0.80 | 0.75 | 0.67 | - |
Phil Kessel | 0.84 | 0.78 | 0.74 | 0.67 | - |
Jonathan Toews | 0.79 | 0.77 | 0.74 | 0.71 | - |
Clint Smith | 0.85 | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.66 | - |
Alex Kovalev | 0.86 | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.68 | 0.62 |
Rick MacLeish | 0.89 | 0.79 | 0.74 | 0.68 | - |
Johnny Gottselig | 0.79 | 0.77 | 0.74 | 0.69 | - |
Charlie Simmer | 0.92 | 0.79 | 0.74 | - | - |
Bobby Bauer | 0.82 | 0.80 | 0.74 | - | - |
Doug Weight | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.66 |
Alex Tanguay | 0.84 | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.64 |
Lorne Carr | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.67 | - |
Glenn Anderson | 0.83 | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.63 |
Don McKenney | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.73 | 0.67 | - |
Tim Kerr | 0.83 | 0.81 | 0.73 | - | - |
Dino Ciccarelli | 0.83 | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.65 |
Joe Nieuwendyk | 0.76 | 0.75 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.66 |
Joe Mullen | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.65 |
Alex Zhamnov | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.68 | - |
Mike Ribeiro | 0.78 | 0.74 | 0.73 | 0.68 | 0.63 |
Pierre Larouche | 0.84 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.68 | - |
Tod Sloan | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.63 | - |
Joe Pavelski | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.67 | - |
Bun Cook | 0.77 | 0.74 | 0.72 | 0.69 | - |
Taylor Hall | 0.83 | 0.79 | 0.72 | - | - |
Zach Parise | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.67 | - |
Brad Park | 0.79 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.61 |
Ray Whitney | 0.76 | 0.74 | 0.72 | 0.70 | 0.67 |
Larry Aurie | 0.96 | 0.85 | 0.72 | 0.61 | - |
Pit Martin | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.60 |
Eddie Wiseman | 0.79 | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.62 | - |
Alexei Yashin | 0.80 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.69 | - |
Brian Propp | 0.81 | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.61 |
Rick Nash | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.62 |
Cam Neely | 0.83 | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.64 | - |
Alexander Semin | 0.85 | 0.78 | 0.72 | 0.63 | - |
Steve Shutt | 0.84 | 0.78 | 0.71 | 0.65 | - |
Buddy O'Connor | 0.86 | 0.78 | 0.71 | 0.64 | - |
Dennis Maruk | 0.81 | 0.76 | 0.71 | 0.65 | - |
Patrick Marleau | 0.75 | 0.73 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.63 |
Bobby Smith | 0.80 | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.61 |
Tyler Seguin | 0.93 | 0.84 | 0.71 | - | - |
Camille Henry | 0.79 | 0.73 | 0.71 | 0.65 | - |
Bill Thoms | 0.86 | 0.78 | 0.71 | 0.64 | - |
Woody Dumart | 0.79 | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.66 | 0.56 |
Dit Clapper | 0.81 | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.66 | 0.61 |
Peter Bondra | 0.78 | 0.74 | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.61 |
Red Berenson | 0.82 | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.61 | - |
Milan Hejduk | 0.80 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.59 |
Kevin Stevens | 0.84 | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.60 | - |
Syl Apps | 0.85 | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.60 | - |
Thomas Vanek | 0.77 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.66 | - |
Johnny Gagnon | 0.81 | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.59 | - |
Vincent Damphousse | 0.74 | 0.72 | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.64 |
Fred Stanfield | 0.80 | 0.76 | 0.70 | 0.61 | - |
Erik Karlsson | 0.83 | 0.80 | 0.70 | - | - |
Wayne Cashman | 0.84 | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.59 |
Butch Goring | 0.78 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.58 |
Bill Barber | 0.80 | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.67 | - |
Steve Larmer | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.70 | 0.67 | - |
Neil Colville | 0.84 | 0.79 | 0.70 | - | - |
Jimmy Ward | 0.77 | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.60 | - |
Al MacInnis | 0.74 | 0.72 | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.65 |
Jim Pappin | 0.79 | 0.74 | 0.70 | 0.62 | - |
Rod Brind'Amour | 0.75 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.63 |
Vic Hadfield | 0.79 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.64 | 0.57 |
Billy Taylor | 0.81 | 0.77 | 0.69 | - | - |
Kenny Wharram | 0.84 | 0.76 | 0.69 | 0.63 | - |
Garry Unger | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.54 |
Robert Lang | 0.79 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.62 | 0.53 |
Craig Janney | 0.74 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.64 | - |
Gaye Stewart | 0.83 | 0.76 | 0.69 | - | - |
John McKenzie | 0.89 | 0.80 | 0.69 | 0.59 | - |
Dave Andreychuk | 0.73 | 0.71 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.62 |
Mike Gartner | 0.73 | 0.71 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.63 |
Blake Wheeler | 0.78 | 0.75 | 0.69 | - | - |
Tomas Sandstrom | 0.79 | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.54 |
Paul Stastny | 0.73 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.64 | - |
Steve Sullivan | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.58 |
Walt Tkaczuk | 0.85 | 0.75 | 0.69 | 0.61 | - |
Baldy Northcott | 0.86 | 0.77 | 0.69 | 0.57 | - |
Rick Tocchet | 0.77 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.60 |
Dennis Hull | 0.78 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.61 | - |
Tom Lysiak | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.66 | - |
Sid Smith | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.68 | - | - |
Doc Romnes | 0.82 | 0.75 | 0.68 | - | - |
Neal Broten | 0.77 | 0.74 | 0.68 | 0.62 | 0.55 |
Patrick Sharp | 0.77 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.62 | - |
Herb Cain | 0.80 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.63 | - |
Art Chapman | 0.86 | 0.76 | 0.68 | 0.55 | - |
Owen Nolan | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.58 |
Dean Prentice | 0.74 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.61 |
Peter McNab | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.61 | - |
Johnny Peirson | 0.79 | 0.74 | 0.68 | - | - |
Todd Bertuzzi | 0.88 | 0.75 | 0.67 | 0.61 | 0.53 |
Wilf Paiement | 0.76 | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.62 | - |
Paul Ronty | 0.85 | 0.79 | 0.67 | - | - |
Jeff Carter | 0.73 | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.63 | - |
Guy Chouinard | 0.83 | 0.74 | 0.67 | - | - |
Barry Pederson | 0.83 | 0.74 | 0.67 | - | - |
Martin Havlat | 0.76 | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.59 | - |
Bill Hay | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.67 | - | - |
Jean Pronovost | 0.76 | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.61 | - |
Brian Leetch | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.60 |
Bill Goldsworthy | 0.80 | 0.73 | 0.66 | 0.56 | - |
Ace Bailey | 0.98 | 0.80 | 0.66 | - | - |
Saku Koivu | 0.70 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.58 |
Patrice Bergeron | 0.70 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.63 | - |
David Krejci | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.61 | - |
Daniel Briere | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.66 | 0.55 | - |
Gary Roberts | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.55 |
Martin Straka | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.66 | 0.60 | 0.53 |
Olli Jokinen | 0.75 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.60 | 0.51 |
Max Pacioretty | 0.73 | 0.72 | 0.66 | - | - |
Jakub Voracek | 0.79 | 0.73 | 0.66 | - | - |
Murray Oliver | 0.78 | 0.71 | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.56 |
Jason Arnott | 0.70 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.60 |
Paul Henderson | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.59 | - |
Ed Litzenberger | 0.81 | 0.72 | 0.66 | - | - |
John Ogrodnick | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.61 | - |
Glen Murray | 0.74 | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.58 | 0.48 |
Phil Housley | 0.69 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.60 |
Shane Doan | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.62 | 0.58 |
James Neal | 0.81 | 0.71 | 0.65 | - | - |
Ebbie Goodfellow | 0.76 | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.61 | - |
Tony Amonte | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.56 |
Fleming MacKell | 0.76 | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.56 | - |
Scott Gomez | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.65 | 0.62 | 0.55 |
Mike Bullard | 0.76 | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.58 | - |
Don Raleigh | 0.75 | 0.70 | 0.65 | - | - |
Mats Naslund | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.65 | - | - |
Nicklas Lidstrom | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.62 | 0.58 |
Kris Letang | 0.82 | 0.78 | 0.65 | - | - |
Simon Gagne | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.59 | - |
Ryan Smyth | 0.69 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.56 |
Mikko Koivu | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.65 | 0.62 | - |
Cory Stillman | 0.76 | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.60 | 0.54 |
Logan Couture | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.65 | - | - |
Brian Bellows | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.56 |
Jozef Stumpel | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.59 | 0.52 |
Vic Stasiuk | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.56 | - |
Claude Provost | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.64 | 0.58 | 0.51 |
Alex Steen | 0.76 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.58 | - |
Gary Dornhoefer | 0.74 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.57 | - |
Gus Bodnar | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.64 | 0.60 | - |
Rick Vaive | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.59 | - |
Doug Mohns | 0.75 | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.59 | 0.53 |
Jordan Eberle | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.64 | - | - |
Danny Gare | 0.75 | 0.69 | 0.64 | 0.57 | - |
Matt Duchene | 0.75 | 0.71 | 0.64 | - | - |
Andre Boudrias | 0.76 | 0.70 | 0.64 | - | - |
Bob Nevin | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.64 | 0.60 | 0.55 |
Bronco Horvath | 0.85 | 0.73 | 0.64 | - | - |
Ken Linseman | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.64 | 0.61 | - |
Petr Nedved | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.58 | - |
Sergei Zubov | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.58 | 0.53 |
Jason Pominville | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.63 | 0.61 | - |
Paul MacLean | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.63 | - | - |
Danny Grant | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.63 | - | - |
Ivan Boldirev | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.55 |
Kirk Muller | 0.69 | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.58 | 0.53 |
Loui Eriksson | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.56 | - |
Grant Warwick | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.63 | - | - |
Bill Guerin | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.58 | 0.53 |
Pat Verbeek | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.60 | 0.54 |
Harry Watson | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.57 | 0.52 |
George Armstrong | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.58 |
Alex Shibicky | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.63 | - | - |
Miroslav Satan | 0.69 | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.58 | - |
Mike Walton | 0.74 | 0.69 | 0.63 | - | - |
Eddie Shore | 0.73 | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.58 | - |
Mickey Redmond | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.63 | - | - |
Ray Getliffe | 0.70 | 0.67 | 0.62 | - | - |
Bobby Schmautz | 0.72 | 0.68 | 0.62 | 0.56 | - |
Larry Robinson | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.58 | 0.53 |
Derek Sanderson | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.62 | - | - |
Anton Stastny | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.62 | - | - |
Sergei Gonchar | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.62 | 0.59 | 0.53 |
Edgar Laprade | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.62 | - | - |
Steve Vickers | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.62 | - | - |
Bob Pulford | 0.67 | 0.64 | 0.62 | 0.58 | 0.53 |
George Gee | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.62 | - | - |
Brad Marchand | 0.76 | 0.68 | 0.62 | - | - |
Bobby Ryan | 0.66 | 0.64 | 0.62 | - | - |
Tom Anderson | 0.75 | 0.69 | 0.62 | - | - |
Brent Sutter | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.57 | 0.50 |
Vyacheslav Kozlov | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.62 | 0.57 | 0.52 |
Ales Hemsky | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.62 | 0.56 | - |
Chris Kunitz | 0.74 | 0.67 | 0.61 | 0.57 | - |
Joe Carveth | 0.65 | 0.63 | 0.61 | - | - |
Rick Kehoe | 0.67 | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.59 | - |
T.J. Oshie | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.61 | - | - |
Brent Burns | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Jimmy Carson | 0.76 | 0.67 | 0.61 | - | - |
Carl Liscombe | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.61 | - | - |
Ralph Backstrom | 0.70 | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.58 | 0.52 |
Gregg Sheppard | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.52 | - |
Kyle Okposo | 0.78 | 0.67 | 0.61 | - | - |
Brian Sutter | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.52 | - |
Michael Nylander | 0.71 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.56 | - |
Vaclav Prospal | 0.71 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Buzz Boll | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Guy Lapointe | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.57 | - |
Andy McDonald | 0.72 | 0.67 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Ed Olczyk | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.56 | 0.50 |
Petr Sykora | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.57 | - |
John Sorrell | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Dave Trottier | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.53 | - |
Dan Quinn | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.57 | - |
Thomas Steen | 0.70 | 0.65 | 0.61 | 0.56 | - |
Dennis Hextall | 0.75 | 0.67 | 0.61 | - | - |
Mush March | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.56 | 0.50 |
Pierre Pilote | 0.70 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.54 | - |
Clark Gillies | 0.72 | 0.65 | 0.60 | 0.54 | - |
Andrew Cassels | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.60 | 0.56 | 0.51 |
Radim Vrbata | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.60 | 0.56 | 0.49 |
Derek Stepan | 0.72 | 0.66 | 0.60 | - | - |
Steve Thomas | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.60 | 0.57 | 0.54 |
Hec Kilrea | 0.70 | 0.64 | 0.60 | 0.55 | - |
Tim Young | 0.70 | 0.63 | 0.60 | - | - |
Tomas Plekanec | 0.64 | 0.62 | 0.60 | 0.54 | - |
Paul Gardner | 0.74 | 0.67 | 0.60 | - | - |
Babe Siebert | 0.69 | 0.64 | 0.60 | 0.55 | - |
John Tonelli | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.60 | 0.56 | 0.50 |
John Cullen | 0.75 | 0.67 | 0.60 | - | - |
Patrik Sundstrom | 0.71 | 0.67 | 0.60 | - | - |
Paul Haynes | 0.85 | 0.75 | 0.60 | - | - |
Bryan Little | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.60 | 0.53 | - |
Michael Cammalleri | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.60 | - | - |
Andrew Brunette | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.60 | 0.55 | - |
Jude Drouin | 0.70 | 0.64 | 0.60 | - | - |
Borje Salming | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.60 | 0.55 | 0.49 |
Ryan Kesler | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.60 | 0.53 | - |
Keith Primeau | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.54 | - |
Stephane Richer | 0.67 | 0.62 | 0.59 | 0.56 | 0.51 |
J.P. Parise | 0.71 | 0.65 | 0.59 | 0.54 | - |
Larry Murphy | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.59 | 0.56 | 0.53 |
Guy Charron | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.59 | 0.51 | - |
Ray Sheppard | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.59 | 0.56 | - |
Chris Drury | 0.64 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.55 | - |
Don Marshall | 0.67 | 0.64 | 0.59 | 0.54 | 0.48 |
Doug Harvey | 0.64 | 0.62 | 0.59 | 0.55 | 0.49 |
Doug Wilson | 0.62 | 0.60 | 0.59 | 0.56 | 0.50 |
Justin Williams | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.59 | 0.55 | 0.52 |
Robert Reichel | 0.66 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.53 | - |
Thomas Gradin | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.59 | - | - |
Harry Oliver | 0.74 | 0.65 | 0.59 | 0.51 | - |
Mud Bruneteau | 0.68 | 0.64 | 0.59 | 0.53 | - |
Mike Richards | 0.71 | 0.64 | 0.59 | 0.52 | - |
Mike Ridley | 0.64 | 0.61 | 0.59 | 0.56 | - |
Derek Roy | 0.67 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.53 | - |
Cal Gardner | 0.67 | 0.62 | 0.59 | 0.54 | - |
Andrew Ladd | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.59 | 0.52 | - |
Ryan O'Reilly | 0.69 | 0.65 | 0.59 | - | - |
Ron Ellis | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.59 | 0.55 | 0.50 |
Dave Gagner | 0.63 | 0.61 | 0.59 | 0.55 | - |
Tommy Williams | 0.68 | 0.62 | 0.59 | - | - |
Dave Creighton | 0.68 | 0.63 | 0.58 | - | - |
Kevin Dineen | 0.69 | 0.63 | 0.58 | 0.53 | 0.47 |
Do you have the year-by-year VSX scores? I was looking at xxx's profile and it's pretty weak. Needs detail.