Reasons for Downfall

BruinDust

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check out the 2008 to 2012 drafts. other than the studs who left with no return there isnt much there.

that is the root of the problem behind the core

No, but say the Bruins had hit on a bunch of those picks outside of Seguin and Hamilton, how many would still be here? By now, they'd all be on their 2nd contracts, so either they would be here, or some of the current core would be gone. You can only have so many expensive cap hit players, whether you draft well or not.

Now maybe some of McQuaid/Kevan/Belesky/Backes wouldn't be here and those theoretical Bruins picks would be. So the team would likely be better, but not likely to be a huge massive difference unless one of those theoretical picks wound up being a legit No.1 D-man.
 

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I get that you're a huge Krejci fan Jesse, but if he has trouble maintaining chemistry with literally everyone he's ever played with, what does that honestly say? Is the problem with the guys they give him or is it with DK? Pretty obvious what the answer is, despite Krejci's obvious talent.

I would say the "trouble maintaining chemistry" theory is pretty hard to prove or even operationalize, so, no, it's not that obvious.

I don't think he's had the proper wingers since Iginla left, though he and Pasta have shown some good things.

Funny, though, how this "give him good players" argument has been used to defend Spooner, but somehow can't be used for Krejci.
 

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I would say the "trouble maintaining chemistry" theory is pretty hard to prove or even operationalize, so, no, it's not that obvious.

I don't think he's had the proper wingers since Iginla left, though he and Pasta have shown some good things.

Funny, though, how this "give him good players" argument has been used to defend Spooner, but somehow can't be used for Krejci.

In fairness, you can use that for mostly everyone on this team. :laugh:

What it boils down to is this: Is it fair to hold DK to a different standard than you do for Spooner though? I mean, given their TOI, salary, track record in this league, and abilities, doesn't it make sense that the expectations for DK are greater?

Now that being said, if they decide they want to keep DK next year, they need to go out and get him some players that better fit his style of play. Taking the fastest guy on the team in Pasta and playing him along side a guy that likes to slow things down is pretty unfair to both guys.
 

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check out the 2008 to 2012 drafts. other than the studs who left with no return there isnt much there.

that is the root of the problem behind the core

Studs who left? You mean the studs they dumped for pennies on the dollar, right? :naughty:
 

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I know bergy is a god and even if he is may favorite player, patrice is not a better player than krejci this year.
He is out of critic but the reality is if krejci suck....than our bergy boy too
And pat is playing all games with one of the best player of the world, he is one of the reason bruins have a difficult year
 

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Poor drafting now and lack of trades.

This team could have immediately improved with the drafting of Travis Konecny, Jacob Chychrun and the addition of Mike Condon for a lower draft pick.

Jacob would have been a great addition to the D., Travis could have really improved the 3rd Line and moved up if required. Just look what Condon has done for Ottawa.
 

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I know bergy is a god and even if he is may favorite player, patrice is not a better player than krejci this year.
He is out of critic but the reality is if krejci suck....than our bergy boy too
And pat is playing all games with one of the best player of the world, he is one of the reason bruins have a difficult year

I read, hear and understand this. You might be right. But both players don't have the same assignement and both player don't play the same game. season's wise, Bergeron started the season injured. Ankle if i'm right. Eichel had also an ankle issue and missed 6 weeks. Sabres are not in the playoff run. Boston couldn't afford to lose Bergeron or Dk for anextended period - point. Bergeron while not being his ownself was still one of best centers when injured of this roster which is telling alot on the upfront depth of the Bruins?

Right now, teams are very physical on 63, 88 and 37 with no response from the Bruins. i m seeing Bergeron trying to take care of business himself which is not his game. Remember, this guy is right in front of the net on both side of the rink on boards in the middle of the pp. he is not a perimeter player. Bruins again are a soft team upfront and their tough guy can not be out for 5 minutes lacking depth on the d core side.

37, 63, and 46 are right there to make the difference. They need as Rask if in net to MAKE the differnece despite all of the above. We will see if they acheive... if not decision might be necessary.

That tells you alot when comparing Crosby and Marchand importance to their club. If crosby is not having a good game, you still have Malkin. If Malkin and Crosby are having an off night, they still have Kessel. If all three don't have a PP, they can still be on the PP all together, with an offensive DCore. And if this doesn't work, there bottom six is better than Bostons playing musical chair with some of their bottom six. Boston top six needs some help a la Rask the other night with 2 goals.They need some of this consistency of the bottom 6 which they do not have. Where is Spooner the last games....having the bottom opponents opposition... you that extremely young talented guy!, Have someone seen him! Boston is a 5-6 players team and they are still in the hunt with goaltending problem. That tells you alot on this core people are screaming at including Chara and Krug. These players can simply not miss a game, period or shift which is absolutely abnormal.
 

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I'm looking at reasons for there downfall in the last 5 games or so....this team was playing well, with energy and heart. They have let that get away from them over the last couple at least. Tough luck loss to Toronto, similar to Ottawa. Tampa was a stinker and the NYI game, while a victory was not what I would call "full of energy". I know we've gotten away from the tougher forwards but if they want to make the playoffs the forwards gotta get out there and bang and crash. Make life difficult for opposing team D. Create the turnovers, score goals, go 8 and 0!! Ok, I've gone too far...
 

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if Collin miller sits out the game vs Nashville, Cassidy is making a mistake if he inserts Liles or Morrow in his spot. Furthermore, Marchand and Bergeron need to put up some points in order for this team to make playoffs down the stretch here. Riley Nash will most likely not score another goal the rest of the season.
 

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I said it before but Marchand has always been a streaky player. They were hot when he was hot, now he is -6 with 1 point in last 4 games. Not blaming him at all, just pointing out how important he is to team success.
 

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I said it before but Marchand has always been a streaky player. They were hot when he was hot, now he is -6 with 1 point in last 4 games. Not blaming him at all, just pointing out how important he is to team success.

Marchand is the sole reason this team has even been within sniffing distance of the playoffs the last two seasons running. Without him, this team is a lottery team both years.
 

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