Value of: RD to Detroit

OgeeOgelthorpe

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Detroit’s system is pretty loaded with LD and 3 of their rookies will probably get NHL minutes at some point this year. But they have an organizational weakness at RD after Mo Seider.

Walman - Seider
Maatta - Gostisbehere
Chiarot - Holl
Lindstrom

Albert Johansson and William Wallinder in Grand Rapids, Simon Edvinsson rehabbing a shoulder injury to start the year.

What RD might be available in a trade that can play on the 2nd pair as the #4 guy? And what are the are the asking prices? Looking at shutdown types preferably, but open to solid 2-way guys.
 
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DingDongCharlie

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You just signed Ghost and Holl. Where are you planning on playing them if you add another RD?

There's not really a lot of shutdown RD available. I guess Pesce would be the ideal target. Would be expensive though if he's moved/extended.

Connor Murphy was the 1st name to mind. Prob 2 - 2nd rounders. After seeing Chicago overpay for vets to have around Bedard he's probably not available, least not till the deadline.

If you did add him or someone of similar calibre of the 6 D there now is losing their spot? I don't see it after Yzerman's additions.
 

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Why not get Vancouver to pay you to take Myers?
Only 1 yr, you could flip him at deadline if he gains any value. Otherwise, he can eat minutes and don't think Detroit is in contender mode yet anyhow.

Next year, I wonder if Zito maybe makes Ekblad (UFA 2025) avaliable? Think he grew up a Red Wings fan.
Could be decent insulation for Seider on right side, as long as he can stay healthy.
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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You just signed Ghost and Holl. Where are you planning on playing them if you add another RD?

There's not really a lot of shutdown RD available. I guess Pesce would be the ideal target. Would be expensive though if he's moved/extended.

Connor Murphy was the 1st name to mind. Prob 2 - 2nd rounders. After seeing Chicago overpay for vets to have around Bedard he's probably not available, least not till the deadline.

If you did add him or someone of similar calibre of the 6 D there now is losing their spot? I don't see it after Yzerman's additions.

Launching Chiarot out of a cannon to open up a roster spot.

We saw Gudas and Schenn get big money this off-season, so I think there is value for a team if Detroit retained 1+ mil on Chiarot’s contract in a trade.

Is Murphy better than Chiarot?

Albert Johansson has mostly played RD. That is what he prefers.

He was LD in Sweden and mostly LD in Grand Rapids.
 

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Detroit’s system is pretty loaded with LD and 3 of their rookies will probably get NHL minutes at some point this year. But they have an organizational weakness at RD after Mo Seider.

Walman - Seider
Maatta - Gostisbehere
Chiarot - Holl
Lindstrom

Albert Johansson and William Wallinder in Grand Rapids, Simon Edvinsson rehabbing a shoulder injury to start the year.

What RD might be available in a trade that can play on the 2nd pair as the #4 guy? And what are the are the asking prices? Looking at shutdown types preferably, but open to solid 2-way guys.
I suggested Trouba in recent months and got told DET does not need RD

maybe I was not wrong?

anyhoo, JT controls his situation until next season nmc->ntc
makes sense he considers going now to a place he likes, as opposed to taking his chances, b'c I would be inclined to consider keeping him a bit longer but gonna need that cap as long as Panarin's deal restricts us

Haven't thought too far into the process, but advise at the right price you have interest in Trouba and we can talk
 
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elitepete

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Why not get Vancouver to pay you to take Myers?
Only 1 yr, you could flip him at deadline if he gains any value. Otherwise, he can eat minutes and don't think Detroit is in contender mode yet anyhow.

Next year, I wonder if Zito maybe makes Ekblad (UFA 2025) avaliable? Think he grew up a Red Wings fan.
Could be decent insulation for Seider on right side, as long as he can stay healthy.
Don’t think the Canucks would need to pay to get rid of him after we pay his bonus. @ 1m salary, teams like Arizona, Anaheim, SJ, Chicago would probably give up future considerations for him, to flip him at the deadine for a 3rd or 4th.

Only reason the Canucks would even need to trade him is if there’s a trade in the works to get a better rd (like the rumoured Pesce trade via SJ). But in a trade like that, Myers would probably be part of the trade.
 

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Peeke could be the guy. Babcock might like him but I bet he becomes available. Maybe worth something like a 2nd+3rd
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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Peeke could be the guy. Babcock might like him but I bet he becomes available. Maybe worth something like a 2nd+3rd

I know CBJ was trash last season, but Peeke’s numbers look terribad. Is he a guy that would be a steady partner for a puck mover?

I suggested Trouba in recent months and got told DET does not need RD

maybe I was not wrong?

anyhoo, JT controls his situation until next season nmc->ntc
makes sense he considers going now to a place he likes, as opposed to taking his chances, b'c I would be inclined to consider keeping him a bit longer but gonna need that cap as long as Panarin's deal restricts us

Haven't thought too far into the process, but advise at the right price you have interest in Trouba and we can talk

Too much money and doesn’t fit Detroit’s cap structure. Otherwise Trouba behind Seider would be awesome.
 

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I know CBJ was trash last season, but Peeke’s numbers look terribad. Is he a guy that would be a steady partner for a puck mover?



Too much money and doesn’t fit Detroit’s cap structure. Otherwise Trouba behind Seider would be awesome.
Peeke is good in a proper system. Columbus' issue with the injuries was everyone had to play above their skill level. We knew Gavrikov was good but he looked bad playing as a number 1 so many people crapped all over him. Surprise he went to LA, did well and the fans/team loved him. Peeke doesnt have that upside but the point is hes better than the numbers a year ago suggest. He's a good physical defensive D that has to play a simple game and has meh puck skills. Will be physical and block shots but needs to be allowed to make the simple plays. I wouldnt mind him staying but I dont like him and Gudbranson in the same top 6 and with Boqvist there he probably gets that spot. Even if Boqvist gets hurt Jiricek is available so it makes moving a guy like Peeke an option
 
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As mentioned, Myers from Vancouver (we'll even retain salary to make it more palatable, but no to adding sweeteners to take him for nothing).
 

Henkka

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In GR, yes, but not in SHL. Just look at his highlights. More of on the right than on the left.

Yeah, he was on the right side for 2022 Championship team Färjestad.

It's interesting how Yzerman will build a logjam on left, when there's the bunch of prospects incoming from the same side.

Probably will want to create tough competition, and will put the kids to push the vets out. Then you can trade those LHD vets from a surplus.

LHD - RHD
Walman - Seider
Chiarot - Holl
Ghost - Lindström
Määttä -
Edvinsson -
Wallinder -
Johansson -

Gostisbehere prefers right side and is the clear candidate to play there etc. But it's interesting how the balance is 7 to 3.
 
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