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RD David Jiricek (2022, 6th, CBJ; traded to MIN)

Spurgeon, and, I'm assuming, Faber are out, leaving Bogosian as their only RHD. Doesn't mean that Jiricek will play, but he's a lot closer to it than he was just a little while ago. Kind of surprised that it wasn't Spacek that got the callup, but they probably want to jiricek to practice with the team a bit, and get their fitness trainers and skating coaches to take a look at him.

Brodin/Mid/ Chisholm /Bogo/Merrill/ Dermott/.... things are getting thin. Middleton just came back last game after a month out. One more injury and someone from Iowa will be playing, whether it be Lambos, Jiricek, spacek, or one of the AHL vets.
 
Update to the above. apparently Brodin is also out, so he, Spurgeon, and Faber are out for the next game at least(probably two). Jiricek will certainly get TOI. Pretty ugly D lineup now. Jiricek might get PP2 time, but that is more of a curse than anything, especially with Kaprizov out, as Rossi will be on PP1. Not a lot of offensive talent on PP2

Middleton - Bogosian
Chisholm - Merrill
Dermott - Jiricek
 
57special said:
Update to the above. apparently Brodin is also out, so he, Spurgeon, and Faber are out for the next game at least(probably two). Jiricek will certainly get TOI. Pretty ugly D lineup now. Jiricek might get PP2 time, but that is more of a curse than anything, especially with Kaprizov out, as Rossi will be on PP1. Not a lot of offensive talent on PP2

Middleton - Bogosian
Chisholm - Merrill
Dermott - Jiricek
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Merrill playing in the top 4 gives me the cold sweats.
 
Curious how it goes.. it's unfortunate that MInny has so many key injuries given their great season. Only bright side is Jiricek gets some ice time. I was all for the 'lock him away in AHL and work on things' for rest of season. I was fine if Spacek got this callup instead.

However, I will cheer like hell and be checking the TOI closely.lol

My guess, given the injuries, is 12 minutes.

My dream - he gets 15 or so, a point somewhere and shows what he's got! He sticks and makes it hard to send him down.

My reality - he gets exposed, shit on HF and sent to Iowa when guys get healthy

Time will tell.lol
 
The hope was that Brodin or Middleton would be his D partner, giving him a solid defensive guy to guide him. As is, Middleton will be out there on the top pairing matched up against Mackinnon and/or Makar - that's not ideal for Middleton, nvm Jiricek. Not expecting a great outcome for the Wild, tonight.
 
Played 16 minutes last night, and somehow ended up with a +/- of 0 in a 6-1 loss. Lead the D in giveaways, and hits. Looked awkward, but OK. Got lost in the O zone once or twice, and i was holding my breath when forwards tried to get around him on the outside, but...ok , for a first time, under pretty bad circumstances. He really needs to spend a lot of time with the Ness's(Wild skating coaches) during the off season, as well as the gym.
 
57special said:
Played 16 minutes last night, and somehow ended up with a +/- of 0 in a 6-1 loss. Lead the D in giveaways, and hits. Looked awkward, but OK. Got lost in the O zone once or twice, and i was holding my breath when forwards tried to get around him on the outside, but...ok , for a first time, under pretty bad circumstances. He really needs to spend a lot of time with the Ness's(Wild skating coaches) during the off season, as well as the gym.
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Maybe people on the outside will finally admit maybe that's the case if now the Wild fanbase starts to agree that's the biggest glaring issue :laugh: If you can't move issues just generally start compounding and get worse, especially with someone who is naturally aggressive
 
Was OK last night in a 3-1 win against SJS. Certainly better than Dermott, but that's damning him with faint praise. He looks thin and lanky out there, but is stronger than he looks. Skating is more awkward than bad, though it's kind of a mix of both. Decision making is not great, but not bad, and you have to cut him some slack because he is playing on a new team with their top 3 Dmen out, so the whole d group is under siege right now.

Overall, I am not unhappy with him so far, but have low expectations, at least in the short term. I think that MN paid too much for him. He's a reclamation project. Needs to be guided, developed, ... these things take time for Dmen. If his attitude is subpar then he is a waste of time, but i am hoping that he is treating the trade as a new start, and will work hard. MN is pretty good are developing Dmen. If he can end up sheltered beside Brodin or Middleton next year then he will be in a good spot, but that won't happen unless he has a vg summer of training.
 
What's the deal with his skating? I thought I recall him frequently referred to as a big, mobile Dman in his draft year? Did he get hurt, or did it just never improve at all?
 
Szechwan said:
What's the deal with his skating? I thought I recall him frequently referred to as a big, mobile Dman in his draft year? Did he get hurt, or did it just never improve at all?
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Just never really improved. The CBJ moved to a system in which he should've thrived in, but he never really stepped up and played aggressively like you want him to.
 
Been happy. It is funny to see him skating 16 a night and also reading that he is the worst skater in the history of hockey. It is funny to hear him described by half as a giant and the other half as a thin person that needs to hit the gym.

I'm thrilled with the mini NHL cup of coffee. I do maintain Merril is not the right partner for him but this is all temporary and I suspect he's heading back to Iowa once a few guys get healthy.



Not a bad hit for such a thin and lanky player. Wonder if Sturm thinks he needs to hit the gym too?

6'4 and over 200lbs.

Also, 7th in his draft class for games played with 55. 10th in points from his draft class. And here are all the D outperforming him from his draft class

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I'd say he is keeping great company even in a redraft. The 2 guys picked ahead of him (Nemec and Korchinski) are full time AHL (and he will be joining them there sooner than later)
 
Szechwan said:
What's the deal with his skating? I thought I recall him frequently referred to as a big, mobile Dman in his draft year? Did he get hurt, or did it just never improve at all?
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He had a knee injury in his draft year but that isn’t the issue. He just doesn’t look right skating backwards and he can be faked surprisingly easy. I am not talking about faked by a guy like Panarin — I am talking about a mediocre 3rd liner with the puck can fake one way and go the other and Jiricek bites on the fake and can’t recover. So he needs to work on his skating and there is probably a little bit of lack of hockey sense there.
 
Contract question

I noticed Korchinski and Nemec were both sent down after 9 games. Is this because of ELC and if they hit 10 it becomes a full year?

If so, Jiricek is now at 8 NHL games... does that mean his next NHL game is his last for the season?

Or am I mixing and matching different types of contracts and not making any sesne?
 
Czechboy said:
Been happy. It is funny to see him skating 16 a night and also reading that he is the worst skater in the history of hockey. It is funny to hear him described by half as a giant and the other half as a thin person that needs to hit the gym.

I'm thrilled with the mini NHL cup of coffee. I do maintain Merril is not the right partner for him but this is all temporary and I suspect he's heading back to Iowa once a few guys get healthy.



Not a bad hit for such a thin and lanky player. Wonder if Sturm thinks he needs to hit the gym too?

6'4 and over 200lbs.

Also, 7th in his draft class for games played with 55. 10th in points from his draft class. And here are all the D outperforming him from his draft class

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I'd say he is keeping great company even in a redraft. The 2 guys picked ahead of him (Nemec and Korchinski) are full time AHL (and he will be joining them there sooner than later)
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Sturm was already going down so this wasn't like the hit against the Leaf player when still in Columbus. Jiricek isn't small in his upper body but if you don't believe he is too small/weak in his lower half I don't know what to tell you. It's not even an insult, it's just reality and an obvious/easy place to build that will benefit him in many areas on the ice
 
stevo61 said:
Maybe people on the outside will finally admit maybe that's the case if now the Wild fanbase starts to agree that's the biggest glaring issue :laugh: If you can't move issues just generally start compounding and get worse, especially with someone who is naturally aggressive
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The interesting thing is the Jackets fandom loves the rest of that draft: Mateychuk and Luca Del Bel Belluz are both AHL all stars who have been getting recent NHL time and looking good. Dumais has been injured but put up crazy OHL numbers. Dolzhenkov is a big Russian forward getting some KHL time. Sergei Ivanov is a decent goalie prospect getting plenty of action in the KHL. But the more we watched Jiricek, the more we became discouraged. I liked the Jiricek pick, but I had no objection to the trade.
 
Czechboy said:
Contract question

I noticed Korchinski and Nemec were both sent down after 9 games. Is this because of ELC and if they hit 10 it becomes a full year?

If so, Jiricek is now at 8 NHL games... does that mean his next NHL game is his last for the season?

Or am I mixing and matching different types of contracts and not making any sesne?
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They are past the age to be eligible for ELC sliding.
 
koteka said:
Did you miss the part about looking good in the NHL, too?
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It's a progression.. first you dominate whatever league you start in. Done. They you dominate the U20. Done. Then you get drafted in round 1. Done. Then you become an AHL player. Done. Then you become an AHL all star. Done. Then you start making ways in the NHL. Done. He's 21 not 25.

I even posted all the guys from his draft class with more games than him.

Last step is stick in the NHL and start to excel. I feel we're right on track and feeling very good about his progression. Especially when I see Kochinski and Nemec in AHL (where I assume he will be soon).
 
I would say most of the Wild HFboard has had a more positive take on his game than 57special. I think he's actually been pretty good, the skating better than advertised (more awkward than bad), and the offensive aggression intriguing. I have also been impressed by how soft his hands are for a big man and his ability to breakout the puck and make some pretty aggressive passes with ease. Stylistically, some may not like the aggressive offensive style but I personally am more of the type of person that thinks that as long as the team understands it that d-men that are really aggressive to jump into the play do more net good than net bad.

To me, based on what I had read from Columbus fans and on HF and based on the AHL reports, I have been positively surprised by him in all factors. To me, he's further along than I thought and while I think he does need to improve his skating and his offensive pinches will be controversial... I see the vision and think that in the Wild's defensive system and structure he's going to be pretty effective.
 
Hard not to be enthused by what you saw last 2 games. He’s clunky as a skater but his instincts are good and he’s confident, even in his debut with a new team. It’s been said a thousand times, but a summer of strength training and maturation (I still think he’s growing into his body) should work wonders. Pair him with Brodin down the line, and he will have a perfect safety net to be aggressive.
 
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