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I'd love to see Nashville draft him, we do have a need for defense and it'd be cool to have a son of a former player, especially if he's better than his dad haha.
I completely agree with this assessment, but I think the "big RHD" factor will make him a late-1st rounder even if people question his upside. Although I guess Charlie Elick and Dom Badinka fell to the early-2nd last year.Honestly, your assessment of his game is exactly how I’ve felt so far.
My assessment of Blake Fiddler so far:
I think people will see the point totals thus far and assume he’s an offensive player, but really that isn’t the case at all. Fiddler is a pretty boring player. I mean that in a good way. He is the type of player that coaches really like. Fiddler is a big defenseman that knows his role to a tee. He is out there to defend. He really plays a pro-style game. He focuses on risk-adverse, solid defending. He isn’t the best skater in terms of straight line speed, so he compensates by playing a conservative game. He doesn’t engage in unnecessary physical contact and instead utilizes his great reach to poke pucks away. One thing I love about Fiddler is his breakout passing. He is able to get pucks up the ice very well and makes great heads-up plays.
Fiddler’s offense is more opportunistic when in the offensive zone. He isn’t really looking to create chances. He has a powerful shot so he is able to create rebounds, but isn’t going to pinch often in the offensive zone. I foresee most of his points coming in the form of secondary assists from his great breakout passing ability from the defensive zone. Fiddler is not currently on the power play for his team.
My biggest criticism of Fiddler is his overall upside. I like his lateral movement, but his speed is a concern. EliteProspects has him ranked 14 (as of 10/14) and that is just too high for me at this point. He has great size, makes good decisions, and plays a pro-style game. But, I think he’s more of a 30-50 guy. He reminds me a bit of Brian Dumoulin. A reliable defensive defenseman with less than great speed.
Fiddler starting to produce (5 points 7 games) and the one game I watched he looked way more confident with the puck and was a feature option on plays. I think a late 1st round grade might be too low when all is said and done if he finishes with 40-50 points.
Apologize for nitpicking, but I feel he doesn't skate as well as Schneider side to side and with turning. Offense and defense might be similar.Maybe, Braden Schneider basically had that season in the WHL (42 points) with the big frame and defensive presence and went 19th overall so possible.
Then again - I wonder if you don’t like back at Schneider (who is a solid young NHL blueliner) and say “the two-way ability may have been a touched overrated” at least as a projectable feature of his game.
I’m not sure the points matter quite as much as “does he have the creativity to actually bring that offensive side with him to the pro level”. But…heck a Schneider-esque outcome is outstanding for the back end of the 1st, regardless of offense.
Apologize for nitpicking, but I feel he doesn't skate as well as Schneider side to side and with turning. Offense and defense might be similar.
Schneider hasn't put up points in the NHL (because he gets absolutely 0 PP time and also usually defensive situations), but he's sneaky good offensively. Gets his shot through a lot, moves the puck along to the next guy, and can occasionally look like a good puck rusher. He plays too passive in the positions he takes up on the ice and doesn't get the opportunity to actually score points that often, but he's more efficient than you'd think offensively.
EJ 100%. I just loved EJ’s game. His mobility, athleticism, and reach just really appealed to me. I think Fiddler is probably a better defender positionally. But, EJ has way more potential in my eyes. At one point last year I think I had EJ ranked like 15 or so but he never showed the offensive upside that I thought he would so he eventually dropped to 23.I completely agree with this assessment, but I think the "big RHD" factor will make him a late-1st rounder even if people question his upside. Although I guess Charlie Elick and Dom Badinka fell to the early-2nd last year.
Who do you prefer between Fiddler and, say, EJ Emery at this point?
I feel very similarly. I really like Emery and he was who I really wanted at 33 for the Sharks. Helluva tease for him to fall to 30 or wherever he ended up going.EJ 100%. I just loved EJ’s game. His mobility, athleticism, and reach just really appealed to me. I think Fiddler is probably a better defender positionally. But, EJ has way more potential in my eyes. At one point last year I think I had EJ ranked like 15 or so but he never showed the offensive upside that I thought he would so he eventually dropped to 23.
Especially when you compare him to EJ Emery, Fiddler’s skating isn’t pretty. He’s a very clunky skater if that makes sense. He’s not able to reach top speed as easily at this point. I think Fiddler’s skating could definitely be improved though and he has pretty decent lateral movement.I feel very similarly. I really like Emery and he was who I really wanted at 33 for the Sharks. Helluva tease for him to fall to 30 or wherever he ended up going.
Right now I feel Emery's skating sets him apart. Fiddler sometimes feels awkward moving to me, even though he's definitely not a terrible skater by any means.
Dumo was an excellent skater until he got hurt. Not explosive but could cover so much ice. Routinely won conditioning/skating drills at Pens camp. In his prime, seen few guys play D vs McDavid 1v1 better.He reminds me a bit of Brian Dumoulin. A reliable defensive defenseman with less than great speed.
From my memory, Dumo wasn’t a fast skater transitioning from offense to defense. In his prime, he certainly wasn’t clunky but his ability to generate speed quickly wasn’t great. Ultimately, Dumo would play conservatively and get a decent head start on his opponents to avoid being out of position in the defensive zone rather than pinch in the offensive zone or attempt to challenge his opposition in the neutral zone. While I think prime Dumoulin is certainly a better skater than Fiddler, style of play and my overall projection of the type of player I see Fiddler becoming makes the comparison appropriate in my eyes.Dumo was an excellent skater until he got hurt. Not explosive but could cover so much ice. Routinely won conditioning/skating drills at Pens camp. In his prime, seen few guys play D vs McDavid 1v1 better.
If Fiddler is a clunky skater, prob not a great comp.
Schneider was third year junior his draft year. So, not really good comparison.Maybe, Braden Schneider basically had that season in the WHL (42 points) with the big frame and defensive presence and went 19th overall so possible.
Then again - I wonder if you don’t like back at Schneider (who is a solid young NHL blueliner) and say “the two-way ability may have been a touched overrated” at least as a projectable feature of his game.
I’m not sure the points matter quite as much as “does he have the creativity to actually bring that offensive side with him to the pro level”. But…heck a Schneider-esque outcome is outstanding for the back end of the 1st, regardless of offense.