RD Axel Sandin Pellikka - Skellefteå, SHL (2023, 17th, DET)

[dekelikekocur]

….no?

What size rink did they just have the tourney on?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What size rink did they just have the tourney on?

Oof.

 

[Oak]

I was not impressed with a lot of ASP's games this WJC. Tried to do too much on his own and shot the puck way too often even when there was a clear lane for a good pass to a wide open player.

 

[hockeyprospects9]

Imo Willander were better than ASP

 

[13to40]

I was not impressed with a lot of ASP's games this WJC. Tried to do too much on his own and shot the puck way too often even when there was a clear lane for a good pass to a wide open player.

Maybe you happened to tune into the games at the wrong time, but I thought his breakout passes were pretty spot on (when there were players open to receive the pass and not at the end of a 1min 30s shift).

He played with more poise than I remembered last watching him with. Good for a young defenceman who most are just labeling as a PP shot.

Think he will turn out to be a gem for the wings. Seider and or Ed will be perfect partners for him to play with.

 

[jfrank21]

Yeah, two years in a row those biased IIHF clowns picked him as Dman of the tourney. They clearly dont watch the games. And those biased writers in Sweden, picking him for the Salming award last year, clearly need their eyes checked as well! Geez, these people clearly know nothing about hockey or defense because they keep picking this undersized, average skating, volume shooter to win these awards! I mean, Mike Johnson said so on the TSN broacast prior to the bronze game, so it must be true.

 

[Big Ed]

This thread would be much more positive if he wasn't drafted by Yzerman, lmao.

 

[Oak]

Maybe you happened to tune into the games at the wrong time, but I thought his breakout passes were pretty spot on (when there were players open to receive the pass and not at the end of a 1min 30s shift).

He played with more poise than I remembered last watching him with. Good for a young defenceman who most are just labeling as a PP shot.

Think he will turn out to be a gem for the wings. Seider and or Ed will be perfect partners for him to play with.

I watched every Sweden game, but I am focusing on his offensive zone play in my previous comment. He did well in the Dzone I agree, but for a player that is considered a dynamic D who creates offense I was very disappointed with his decision making in the O zone.

 

[Czechboy]

I thought he was amazing and will be amazing. Was impressed my Czechs kept him to 1 assist in 2 games. Future is very bright. 2 to 3 years and he should be a very impactful NHL player.

 

[saska sault]

I watched every Sweden game, but I am focusing on his offensive zone play in my previous comment. He did well in the Dzone I agree, but for a player that is considered a dynamic D who creates offense I was very disappointed with his decision making in the O zone.

He seemed dynamic and above the talent level in the tournament. His decision making was at a higher pace than some in the tournament can keep up with. He already plays pro, not all the kids do.

 

[13to40]

I watched every Sweden game, but I am focusing on his offensive zone play in my previous comment. He did well in the Dzone I agree, but for a player that is considered a dynamic D who creates offense I was very disappointed with his decision making in the O zone.

Interesting take then.

I thought at times he tried to make NHL level plays which his peers weren’t ready for. Lots of tip shots intentionally shot wide. Shots that are taken for the purpose of deflecting too. Lots of passes and pucks put in high danger areas in general.

I can see why you think that though, more often than not it appeared to be just another shot attempt… though it was a puck being shot near the net for a redirection.

 

[Dotter]

I thought he was amazing and will be amazing. Was impressed my Czechs kept him to 1 assist in 2 games. Future is very bright. 2 to 3 years and he should be a very impactful NHL player.

I didn't get to watch him other than a few highlights. How would you grade him as a prospect?

 

[Czechboy]

I didn't get to watch him other than a few highlights. How would you grade him as a prospect?

Definitely one of the top prospects not in the NHL. I don't think he'll step in and be lights out though. Bit small... Needs PP time and to play with other offensive players (like Raymond). But by 22 or 23. Could be a .ppg dman which is what I think he'll become.

 

[raymond23]

I thought he was pretty average for my expectations of him at this point

Yet he still tied for 2nd in points (as a dman) and was on the ice for very few goals against

That just is the type of player he is and will be. A difference maker, even if it's quiet at times

 

[Hallonbroder]

What size rink did they just have the tourney on?

lol.

First off all - success in a kids tourney does not = success everywhere else.

Success in the SHL dies not = success in the NHL.

He’s small, slow, not the greatest skater, questionable decision making in the offensive zone, not a great shot, and I think he’ll have trouble on smaller ice vs men.
But hey, let’s hope I’m wrong! (not for you though)

 

[raymond23]

lol.

First off all - success in a kids tourney does not = success everywhere else.

Success in the SHL dies not = success in the NHL.

He’s small, slow, not the greatest skater, questionable decision making in the offensive zone, not a great shot, and I think he’ll have trouble on smaller ice vs men.
But hey, let’s hope I’m wrong! (not for you though)

Lol you had me until the “not a great shot” part. Nice try almost got me

 

[Hallonbroder]

Lol you had me until the “not a great shot” part. Nice try almost got me

When saying that, I mean that I don’t think he’s shot is “great” on NHL level. Do you?

 

[RedHawkDown]

When saying that, I mean that I don’t think he’s shot is “great” on NHL level. Do you?

Yes.

 

[Big Ed]

Article by Prashanth Iyer about his season.

Touches on WJC but I find the bit about his SHL analytics more interesting.

Taking all U-20 defenseman over the last seven seasons, Sandin-Pellikka currently ranks 6th in Goals Above Replacement, behind a couple of future teammates. Notably, Sandin-Pellikka has done this in just 25 games and he’s got 22 more games left in his regular season. By Goals Above Replacement per 60 minutes, he’s already 1st amongst U-20 defenseman over the last seven years. Should he keep up this pace of play, he’s likely to shatter the U-20 mark for goals above replacement by defenseman in addition to the points mark.

 

[Lampedampe]

When saying that, I mean that I don’t think he’s shot is “great” on NHL level. Do you?

So if it's not great, do you mean that it's only good or is just OK?

He's obviously able to score goals at a great rate, what would take ASP's shot to the next level?

 

[Pavels Dog]

Imo Willander were better than ASP

Kind of a weird opinion imo, I didn't love Willander's tournament. Defensively him and Lindstein actually had some really rough moments and some goals against, and while it was a weak penalty he still put himself in the position to be penalized on the OT loss against Finland. No points and -2 in the elimination round. I kind of feel like the ASP hype is getting people to nitpick him far more than they do a guy like Willander. At the end of the day ASP had double the points and was a +8, barely on the ice for a goal against all tournament.

 

[Hallonbroder]

Kind of a weird opinion imo, I didn't love Willander's tournament. Defensively him and Lindstein actually had some really rough moments and some goals against, and while it was a weak penalty he still put himself in the position to be penalized on the OT loss against Finland. No points and -2 in the elimination round. I kind of feel like the ASP hype is getting people to nitpick him far more than they do a guy like Willander. At the end of the day ASP had double the points and was a +8, barely on the ice for a goal against all tournament.

Nitpick and nitpick- I know what you mean, but I came away fairly unimpressed with ASPs game vs Finland - a lot of floaters missing the goal/guys in front, and he had lots of them. That was basically his semifinal game. Also a lot of weird choices on the blue line/neutral zone.

He gets quite a different role in the SHL, and you can tell that the big ice surface benefits his style - a bit slow, careful playmaking. Hence my comparison to Magnus Johansson, which isn’t half bad.

But hey, I though Adam Boqvist would be amazing in the NHL, so w*f do I know

 

[dekelikekocur]

lol.

First off all - success in a kids tourney does not = success everywhere else.

Success in the SHL dies not = success in the NHL.

He’s small, slow, not the greatest skater, questionable decision making in the offensive zone, not a great shot, and I think he’ll have trouble on smaller ice vs men.
But hey, let’s hope I’m wrong! (not for you though)

Ahh yes, delusion and pulling shit out of your ass seems to be your double down.

Just admit you're butthurt he's a wings prospect and you're full of shit because hot takes like these just say it for you with a lot of wasted energy.

 

[Hallonbroder]

Ahh yes, delusion and pulling shit out of your ass seems to be your double down.

Just admit you're butthurt he's a wings prospect and you're full of shit because hot takes like these just say it for you with a lot of wasted energy.

No idea why you’re getting so offended over me not thinking that he’ll turn out the way you want him to, but OK?

 

[Pavels Dog]

Nitpick and nitpick- I know what you mean, but I came away fairly unimpressed with ASPs game vs Finland - a lot of floaters missing the goal/guys in front, and he had lots of them. That was basically his semifinal game. Also a lot of weird choices on the blue line/neutral zone.

That's my point about "nitpicking" - I think it's just expectation that ASP will make something out of nothing that creates this criticism. A good game isn't enough.
Did Willander do anything more against Finland? Did the other players?
Rewatch the OT powerplay against Finland and tell me you're not seeing the multiple weak attempts by Unger Sörum that basically destroyed the PP?

It was also quite obvious that ASP was being gameplanned against heavily towards the end of the tournament. That left openings for other players, but unfortunately the offensive talent on Sweden was a bit lacking behind ASP.