Speculation: Raymond Seider Contract Speculation

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Lazlo Hollyfeld

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If I were invested financially and emotionally in the later, then what’s the issue with voicing concern over it?

Obviously to each their own. But the deal got done before the season and it's a very good deal. There's not cause for concern.

My main point was even if they ended up right about where everyone thought they would, that doesn't mean they could've just done it on day 1. That's not how negotiations typically work. Especially not ones involving 8 years of someone's life and $64 million.
 
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Obviously to each their own. But the deal got done before the season and it's a very good deal. There's not cause for concern.

My main point was even if they ended up right about where everyone thought they would, that doesn't mean they could've just done it on day 1. That's not how negotiations typically work. Especially not ones involving 8 years of someone's life and $64 million.
Yup.

Negotiations are a bitch up until an agreement is made. For Raymond’s deal, I’d imagine that this very agreement has been on the table for months. But neither Yzerman nor Raymond’s agent had any impetus to show their hand.
 
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izlez

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Wait... training camp only lasts for 4 days??

Excuse me for shifting my goalposts a bit, but now I firmly don't give a toot if Seider were to miss it. I was thinking it was like 2.5 weeks long like in the NFL and I was kind of on the fence of maybe caring a little bit.
 

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Yup.

Negotiations are a bitch up until an agreement is made. For Raymond’s deal, I’d imagine that this very agreement has been on the table for months. But neither Yzerman nor Raymond’s agent had any impetus to show their hand.
I'd wager they were asking around 8.2-8.3 and Yzerman wanted 7.9 and they finally caved and met in the middle
 

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Yzerman says Seider and Raymond both are still on their old work VISA's and should be relatively easy to get them renewed.

Said if Seider dragged out and his VISA expired, then it would take longer to get it updated.
 

ricky0034

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Wait... training camp only lasts for 4 days??

Excuse me for shifting my goalposts a bit, but now I firmly don't give a toot if Seider were to miss it. I was thinking it was like 2.5 weeks long like in the NFL and I was kind of on the fence of maybe caring a little bit.

when people talk about "camp" they're usually talking about stuff like preseason too whatever the technical definition of "training camp" is, I know I certainly mean both of those when I say "camp"
 
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RedHawkDown

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Nothing. You would be voicing concern over something you are 100% ignorant about in both cases.
This is quite a bad argument. This means you also shouldn’t be happy about anything the team does as you are 100% ignorant either way. To have any emotion in response to the teams actions is foolish as you are not an NHL player or executive.
 

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This is quite a bad argument. This means you also shouldn’t be happy about anything the team does as you are 100% ignorant either way. To have any emotion in response to the teams actions is foolish as you are not an NHL player or executive.

Id argue having an emotion in response to unsigned players during the offseason/training camp is foolish.

Just let the process playout and be happy/upset when they sign/actually miss games.
 
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OgeeOgelthorpe

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Id argue having an emotion in response to unsigned players during the offseason/training camp is foolish.

Just let the process playout and be happy/upset when they sign/actually miss games.


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