Raw/NXT/PPV Spoiler Thread 5

[The Lunatic Fridge]

You can't hide an injury in this day and age. Dirt sheets figure it out quickly.

Absolutely nobody knew the extent of edge's injuries until he retired. Cena constantly works through pain and we just find out about it later on in time and so on. Reigns recently had a nose injury (a real one. deviated...something) last i checked nobody heard about that at all till Triple H killed him on RAW.
Dirt sheets find out alot of info. They don't find out EVERYTHING. Look at shane's return. Seemingly no one knew about it. Except for falconarrow apparently

 

[Emperoreddy]

Absolutely nobody knew the extent of edge's injuries until he retired. Cena constantly works through pain and we just find out about it later on in time and so on. Reigns recently had a nose injury (a real one. deviated...something) last i checked nobody heard about that at all till Triple H killed him on RAW.
Dirt sheets find out alot of info. They don't find out EVERYTHING. Look at shane's return. Seemingly no one knew about it. Except for falconarrow apparently

Deviated septum, which is a really minor injury that causes you to snore. He honestly could of worked through all of mania season with it. It isn't a major and a lot of people actually have the issue. Its also an outpatient procedure to fix. It really was most likely an excuse to keep him off TV for a few weeks.

Cena is a weird wolverine, he is a poor example and Edge was a long while ago.

Every injury recently has been picked up by the observer or insider before WWE reported it even when talent was going out of its way to deny it (Sasha).

Just stop it, everyone disagrees with you here that Bray is somehow injury prone. He has had two injuries. His ankle this year and his back now. He isn't injury prone. In fact it was dirt sheets that revealed Bray's ankle injury last year at Mania.

Shane has been basically the only surprise they have hidden in a long time. Most of their plans have been sniffed out long before they revealed it and Big Dave knew a non wrestler was pegged for the Taker match.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Observer saying the plan is still to have a multi man IC match and Sami being in it (double duty for Sami!) Neville was going to be in it, and won't be now.

Miz and Ziggler were too, but apparently that plan might of changed.

Also they might have abandoned the plan for a special ref in the Roman/HHH match, but if they do have one we will know on RAW this week.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Yeah, Wrestlers have never hidden a injury from the general public or have even wrestled through it. If it wasn't reported by the dirt sheets, it didn't happen. You guys are ridiculous.

It was his character to sit out there on TV for several weeks at a time? Tell me how that builds his character exactly. I wish i could dig up posts way far back to show exactly what i mean.

To think anyone on the roster isn't banged up in some way is asinine. But to call him injury prone because this is only his second injury that has made him unable to compete is also asinine. I mean, if this is what we're classifying as injury prone (wrestling through an injury) literally everyone on the roster is injury prone.

Barrett can be classified as injury prone. Orton can, but only because of his hypermobility in his shoulders. Mr. Kennedy was. Guys that were constantly injured and at the worst times. Wyatt? No.

 

[Fa Ci La]

Also they might have abandoned the plan for a special ref in the Roman/HHH match, but if they do have one we will know on RAW this week.

they absolutely should abandon it. it's not needed. and who could they get to do it that actually makes sense, anyway

however, i wouldn't be opposed to the ref in the taker/shane match being taken out and austin coming out as the ref. there's some holes that have to be filled, but you'd get one of a hell pop

 

[Paris in Flames]

The only way Meltzer or anybody dirt sheet related could have known about Roman having a deviated septum is if they were sleeping with him.

It's also not a real injury. It's on the same level as like...an ingrown toenail.

 

[Kimi]

What are you talking about? There was a time at one point where bray would come out durings RAWs and just sit on his rocking chair and never be involved. After Harper and Rowan were done with their match he would just signal for the stooges to back up and then leave.

House shows are a thing you know. Just 'cos you don't see them, doesn't mean they don't happen.

 

[Jussi]

Think if it were Rousey vs. Steph for control of RAW instead of Shane/Taker.

If Rousey wins, she gets to select the new person in charge of RAW. That would have been an epic way to bring Shane back the RAW after Mania.

In a suprise move, Steph brings out Asuka to fight in her place. Stiffest women's match ever.

 

[Kimi]

A note on Bray's injury from Meltzer's podcast.

It's an injury, but it's not a major one. It's enough to stop him from working for now, but he's not going to be missing a lot of time. He's expected to be fully fit for the summer at the latest. That's not a time line, it's just that they're not concerned about his plans for the summer.

He's meant to be doing a program with Lesnar, then a program with Reigns.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Ah so....two more big losses for Bray.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Wwe has Nakamura stuff all over the place now that it's official he is wrestling Sami at Takeover.

Man I hope they got his theme along with his name. Thr song on his YouTube video is ok but I want subconscious.

 

[Kimi]

They don't have his music.

 

[The Gongshow]

Observer saying the plan is still to have a multi man IC match and Sami being in it (double duty for Sami!) Neville was going to be in it, and won't be now.

Miz and Ziggler were too, but apparently that plan might of changed.

Also they might have abandoned the plan for a special ref in the Roman/HHH match, but if they do have one we will know on RAW this week.

The only two options to add to the "multi man match" are AJ and Y2J other than those two who would you add? Jobber Breeze? Star Dust?

 

[Kimi]

(Wanna point out that the last time that added Stardust and Breeze to a multi-man IC Title match it was awesome.)

 

[Loosie]

Absolutely nobody knew the extent of edge's injuries until he retired. Cena constantly works through pain and we just find out about it later on in time and so on. Reigns recently had a nose injury (a real one. deviated...something) last i checked nobody heard about that at all till Triple H killed him on RAW.
Dirt sheets find out alot of info. They don't find out EVERYTHING. Look at shane's return. Seemingly no one knew about it. Except for falconarrow apparently

Edge's injury was a surprise to Edge. Hey went from winning at WM to going to the doctors and having them tell him he needed to retire yesterday in a matter of days.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Wasn't Stardust in last year's IC Title match too?

Owens, Zayn, Miz, Ziggler, Stardust in a ladder match. *shrug* If Big Show is healthy, you can put him in there too considering his little side story with Owens before his injury.

If you're not going to do a ladder match, though, just do a singles with Owens/Zayn, but that's my two cents. I understand the delay in having them do a singles match so soon, but it's going to happen at Extreme Rules (or is it Payback? Whichever the one after WM is) anyways is what I'm thinking.

 

[Kimi]

Still with the Big Show crap xD. It was a pair of literally joke matches. They were meaningless.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Wasn't Stardust in last year's IC Title match too?

Owens, Zayn, Miz, Ziggler, Stardust in a ladder match. *shrug* If Big Show is healthy, you can put him in there too considering his little side story with Owens before his injury.

If you're not going to do a ladder match, though, just do a singles with Owens/Zayn, but that's my two cents. I understand the delay in having them do a singles match so soon, but it's going to happen at Extreme Rules (or is it Payback? Whichever the one after WM is) anyways is what I'm thinking.

Where IS Stardust? Was sure they were going to do him and Amell again, but he vanished and everything about it vanished.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Still with the Big Show crap xD. It was a pair of literally joke matches. They were meaningless.

The plan was for a multi-man IC Title match. Show would be just fine in that. Now, if it were a one-on-one match there'd be a problem. You think meaningless, but they could have been building to the multi-man match with everyone gunning after Owens (Show, Miz, Neville, Ziggler, now Zayn).

 

[Kimi]

The plan was for a multi-man ladder match made up of good workers, and Miz. Show isn't a good worker, nor is he Miz.

Not everything is building to something. When something is clearly a dick joke, then it's probably just a dick joke. Especially when the reported plans contradict the idea that it was a build to anything.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Oh just throw Tyler Breeze in there.

He's a damn good worker and will probably do anything to get noticed.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Should team Breeze and Miz.

 

[Le Tricolore]

The plan was for a multi-man ladder match made up of good workers, and Miz. Show isn't a good worker, nor is he Miz.

Not everything is building to something. When something is clearly a dick joke, then it's probably just a dick joke. Especially when the reported plans contradict the idea that it was a build to anything.

You say that as if Miz isn't a good wrestler.

He is.

 

[Kimi]

I didn't say that, that's how it was reported.


Still, I wouldn't call Miz a 'good' worker. Especially when the match in question was meant to have Owens, Neville, and Zayn in it. He's very much a tier below them. It's not a knock on Miz, he's not bad by any means. He's just nothing special. He hits the "good enough to do what he does well, and not be bad" skill level, which is fine; any thing more is just a bonus. Especially when his character is awesome.

That being said, you don't think much of Neville. So I think it's fair to question your opinions on wrestlers.

 

[Serac]

If they fully intend to have a multi man match
It's a damn shame if Breeze isn't in it
WWE needs to open their eyes and see what a worker he is
And he's the perfect heel fodder to have in a multi man match at that