Raw/NXT/PPV Spoiler Thread 5

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Pinkfloyd

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Don't want Shane to beat Taker, it's just so unrealistic.

Taker-Shane back in the day would have been a random Smackdown match with Shane doing the job.

I don't get how the WWE is building this up like Taker might lose this and if he does that's a joke. I'm OK with Lesnar beating Taker at WM but with Taker beating Shawn 2x, HHH 3x, Batista, Orton, and other top guys it'd be a joke for him to lose to Shane O Mac.

I really don't care how realistic it is. Shane needs to win to get the Authority and Vince off TV. It's a needed change and I couldn't care less if it buries Undertaker and everyone he ever beat to happen. Hell, I'd take a finger-poke of doom here. I could see Taker beating the ever-loving crap out of Shane just to willingly let Shane pin him. I really don't care how it ends as long as Shane wins. lol

But to be fair, I don't hold Taker to the high regard that people here like to. At this point, there are more negatives to what Taker does than positives...and it's been that way for years now.
 

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I really don't care how realistic it is. Shane needs to win to get the Authority and Vince off TV. It's a needed change and I couldn't care less if it buries Undertaker and everyone he ever beat to happen. Hell, I'd take a finger-poke of doom here. I could see Taker beating the ever-loving crap out of Shane just to willingly let Shane pin him. I really don't care how it ends as long as Shane wins. lol

But to be fair, I don't hold Taker to the high regard that people here like to. At this point, there are more negatives to what Taker does than positives...and it's been that way for years now.

Yeah I agree, I don't really care if Taker ends up with a 2 in the L column at Mania they need to get the Authority out and change it up.
 

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Maybe the "lockbox" thing Shane has on Vince is dirty pictures of Vince and Taker? That's why Taker is in the match to keep it a secret as well!!!
 

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Just a random thought, not really a spoiler. Where is this Dolph Ziggler story going? It actually seemed like they were actually trying to build Ziggler up with these vs. The Authority segments the last few weeks but as of now he is still off the card for WM. So you add that to promo Shane gave last week about certain guys being held back. Do you think there is chance that Ziggler and other "held back" wrestlers interfere in the Hell in a Cell match on Shane's behalf? Make a Shane victory more believable? I don't know, again just a random thought.
 

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Just a random thought, not really a spoiler. Where is this Dolph Ziggler story going? It actually seemed like they were actually trying to build Ziggler up with these vs. The Authority segments the last few weeks but as of now he is still off the card for WM. So you add that to promo Shane gave last week about certain guys being held back. Do you think there is chance that Ziggler and other "held back" wrestlers interfere in the Hell in a Cell match on Shane's behalf? Make a Shane victory more believable? I don't know, again just a random thought.

I don't see what losing clean to HHH but then somehow helping beat undertaker at WM will accomplish.

or make sense in any way for that matter.
 
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ziggler is just taking the paycheck now, it's been obvious for a while. he tried and tried but realized WWE will never let him go beyond a certain level
 

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The "Dolph Ziggler Story" was yet another failed attempt to get Hunter over as the heel vs. Reigns. And now Dolph doesn't have a match. They had a better shot if they had Reigns interfere to have Ziggler win, but we actually all expected that to happen thus it didn't.
 

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The "Dolph Ziggler Story" was yet another failed attempt to get Hunter over as the heel vs. Reigns. And now Dolph doesn't have a match. They had a better shot if they had Reigns interfere to have Ziggler win, but we actually all expected that to happen thus it didn't.

Is that what it was? The whole thing with Dolph these past two weeks just seems weird. This being a burial because he gave notice doesn't seem farfetched to me.

They easily could of had Roman interfere and let Dolph win if there was some sort of plan for him, but creative specifically chose to let Dolph lose clean and THEN Roman comes out. Which honestly would of helped Roman too as the crowd was sort of behind Dolph (to the point there was dueling chants)
 

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Is that what it was? The whole thing with Dolph these past two weeks just seems weird. This being a burial because he gave notice doesn't seem farfetched to me.

They easily could of had Roman interfere and let Dolph win if there was some sort of plan for him, but creative specifically chose to let Dolph lose clean and THEN Roman comes out. Which honestly would of helped Roman too as the crowd was sort of behind Dolph (to the point there was dueling chants)

Remember things like this when people wonder just how far Vince is willing to go to get Roman Reigns over.
 

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Remember things like this when people wonder just how far Vince is willing to go to get Roman Reigns over.

I wouldn't put it past Vince to just bury Dolph in an attempt to get Roman over.

I feel bad. He got his balls cut off by Steph two weeks in a row, loses clean to HHH so he can get some ring rust off, and doesn't even get saved by super babyface Roman.
 

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It does suck for Dolph, but just goes to show that Vince can't resist to feed his own ego at the expense of his product
 

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The "Dolph Ziggler Story" was yet another failed attempt to get Hunter over as the heel vs. Reigns. And now Dolph doesn't have a match. They had a better shot if they had Reigns interfere to have Ziggler win, but we actually all expected that to happen thus it didn't.

Why didn't they let Reigns **** that match up and Ziggler win? Then we get 2 fun things:

1) Next week we see the match Ziggler picks.

2) Reigns helps a face out (gets sympathy cheers) and adds fuel to the fire between the two. The same brawl would take place.


Why? Like.... why wouldn't they just do that?
 

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Don't think I buy the whole idea that the match with Ziggler and keeping Ziggler off Mania is just a heel heat move.

HHH won clean....he didn't heel it up at all. Should have had him cheat or something if that was your goal.
 

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Why didn't they let Reigns **** that match up and Ziggler win? Then we get 2 fun things:

1) Next week we see the match Ziggler picks.

2) Reigns helps a face out (gets sympathy cheers) and adds fuel to the fire between the two. The same brawl would take place.


Why? Like.... why wouldn't they just do that?

Because **** Dolph Ziggler is why. They don't care. lol
 

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Why didn't they let Reigns **** that match up and Ziggler win? Then we get 2 fun things:

1) Next week we see the match Ziggler picks.

2) Reigns helps a face out (gets sympathy cheers) and adds fuel to the fire between the two. The same brawl would take place.


Why? Like.... why wouldn't they just do that?

Because they don't give a **** about Dolph and they are dumb?

Or the political hit theory is in full steam ahead mode and someone knew this was the worst way to book Roman's face return as possible.

Either way it was dumb.

Silent monster Roman is the best Roman (it's basically Sheild Roman) but his last two monster moments were oddly booked because he comes off as such a heel because it comes out of no where almost.

Like if they did it right I could buy this Roman character and get behind it to an extent (dude is never going to be top babyface) but I don't buy this for one second right now.

Just feels like a turd
 

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Brie in an interview said she is ready to start making babies, but didn't rule out staying on Total Divas (obviously she won't be wrestling).

Cesaro said he is still a couple of months away and his arm is still in a sling.
 

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Previews made it seem Brie's neck injury is starting to come into full force. If that drama doesn't get anyone to watch nothing short of DB's retirement will (and that is only an episode).

The audience for WWE programming and Total Divas aren't the same. Daniel Bryan's retirement episode won't be that much of a pull.



Ryback/Kalisto is now official, there's talk that The Dudleyz vs. The Usos will be a tables match.
 

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The audience for WWE programming and Total Divas aren't the same. Daniel Bryan's retirement episode won't be that much of a pull.



Ryback/Kalisto is now official, there's talk that The Dudleyz vs. The Usos will be a tables match.

I can't believe that is a ****ing singles match and wasn't the gimmick that the Dudleyz were done with tables?
 

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I don't think AJ vs Jericho has been made official yet

I think you are right, though it is obvious its coming. I guess they could audible and wrap it around the IC picture since Neville is done and they have been doing KO/AJ a bit, but I doubt it. KO/AJ seems to be AJ's post-mania feud (though I wonder what they do with Sami).
 
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