Value of: Rasmus Andersson to Montreal?

[Just Linda]

I quite like the player, I quite like the contract.

In 2 years, might be the right time to get him as a UFA. I don't see much point spending a ton of assets on a player who will be UFA before the Habs window.

 

[johnnystormcgy]

I quite like the player, I quite like the contract.

In 2 years, might be the right time to get him as a UFA. I don't see much point spending a ton of assets on a player who will be UFA before the Habs window.

I love these posters that just assume said player will sign with there team when he has 31 other options.

 

[Just Linda]

I love these posters that just assume said player will sign with there team when he has 31 other options.

I mean, noone is assuming he'll sign in Montreal but that's the exact argument I was making why the Habs shouldn't trade for him, cause there's a 1/32 chance he'll be on the Habs in 2 years when they are hoping to be in their window.

 

[johnnystormcgy]

I mean, noone is assuming he'll sign in Montreal but that's the exact argument I was making why the Habs shouldn't trade for him, cause there's a 1/32 chance he'll be on the Habs in 2 years when they are hoping to be in their window.

That's what the trade and the two years are for...

 

[Just Linda]

That's what the trade and the two years are for...

Not worth it, to take a risk like that, for the cost Flames should get.

 

[HuGort]

Montreal's window probably doesn't open for another three or so seasons. So I'm not sure that Andersson fits the logical timeline when factoring in acquisition cost.

The Habs are better off letting things play out and developing their prospects with favorable icetime. They're not all going to hit and some will need to be moved for these types of established pieces in future years.

The biggest hole right now is the lack of a true #1 center and more often than not, competitive teams get that from the draft.

We not 3 years off. Hope to challenge for playoff spot this season. Make it in '26.

At deadline, if Flames out of playoff picture. Would Flames take couple of vets they could trade for firsts?

 

[belair]

We not 3 years off. Hope to challenge for playoff spot this season. Make it in '26.

At deadline, if Flames out of playoff picture. Would Flames take couple of vets they could trade for firsts?

Considering two thirds of your projected RD next season have played a combined 0 games to date in the NHL, I'd think that your estimates are a tad optimistic.

There's a good chance that Montreal could take a step back this season considering all of the Sens, Sabres and Red Wings are theoretically ahead of them in terms of building a competitive roster.

If I'm Montreal, my 1st is going nowhere for the next few seasons. Those are possible lottery picks.

 

[Petes2424]

Montreal’s just not ready for a deal like this yet. Other than Guhle, none of their other young Dmen have made any significant impact yet. If that happens over the next two years, then they may want to think of adding a player like Andersson via a costly trade.

That’s the issue. In UFA? Sure, but to go out looking for someone (via trade) of his status, it’s gonna cost significant assets. Right now for example, Calgary would want one of their young Dmen included in this trade. With the bust rate with young Dmen, there’s still a good chance the one they trade, ends up better than the ones they keep.

So they need to let things play out some, before making any big trade on the blue line. If Reinbacher comes in this season and makes a Seider/Power/Sanderson type impact, than maybe that timeline changes. Right now though? Not a good idea.

 

[HuGort]

Considering two thirds of your projected RD next season have played a combined 0 games to date in the NHL, I'd think that your estimates are a tad optimistic.

There's a good chance that Montreal could take a step back this season considering all of the Sens, Sabres and Red Wings are theoretically ahead of them in terms of building a competitive roster.

If I'm Montreal, my 1st is going nowhere for the next few seasons. Those are possible lottery picks.

Guhle can play either side well. Savard is there. Barron be third right D. Reinbacher and Mailloux will push 2 of them out by trade deadline.

Experts are predicting us challenge for playoff berth

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Guhle can play either side well. Savard is there. Barron be third right D. Reinbacher and Mailloux will push 2 of them out by trade deadline.

Experts are predicting us challenge for playoff berth

I think you need to work on your math here. If Montreal challenges for a playoff spot this season that does not mean they are entering their compete window. If you are a team that finishes top of your division or make it to the 3rd round you are entering your window. Montreal is absolutely about 3 years out from that.

 

[HabsAddict]

This Habs fans doesn't want to propose anything. Habs are fine with the D we have and we need to let the process play out.

Maybe we are searching for a missing part later but that is a bridge we will cross when we get there.

We're in a NHL2000 fantasy trade loop where NO is not an answer so the next unrealistic proposal pops up.

From a trainload of early 20 defenseman, we have no idea who is going to be top 2. Even X, who few see as a top 2 defenseman, he has 107mph slapshot NOW that can easily be OVER 110 the next few years and we get another bigger, meaner Weber. Or flop out like Komisarek.

No trade of the youth until they had 3 or more seasons to establish their path.

If they rise to the lofty heights to mediocrity and playoff bubble, great, but no expectations because the time line of contention is still a few years away.

 

[TBF1972]

At deadline, if Flames out of playoff picture. Would Flames take couple of vets they could trade for firsts?

trade the vets for picks and prospects first and comeback with a future based offer.

 

[McJedi]

What about Flo/Cgy '25 pick + Justin Barron + Beck/Kapanen?

Horrible value to Calgary.

A waiver player, low 1st and B+ prospect for one of the NHLs best defensive contracts and a guy Habs play top pair day one.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Horrible value to Calgary.

A waiver player, low 1st and B+ prospect for one of the NHLs best defensive contracts and a guy Habs play top pair day one.

Why post when you know nothing about the players offered. A 1st, a potential top 4 d and 2 elite 3rd line centres (who may have 2c potential). A 1st, Barron and say Kidney/Farrell would be a fair offer.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

I saw some rumour he was going to Tampa for a 2026 1st, Perbix and Sheary for Anderson 1.6M retained

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Why post when you know nothing about the players offered. A 1st, a potential top 4 d and 2 elite 3rd line centres (who may have 2c potential). A 1st, Barron and say Kidney/Farrell would be a fair offer.

Barron's "potential" on being a top 4 dman at this point is very low. Sure it could happen but highly unlikely. Beck is decent and projects nicely as a 2-way 3C caliber player but Kapanen is definitely a few steps below him

I saw some rumour he was going to Tampa for a 2026 1st, Perbix and Sheary for Anderson 1.6M retained

NHLtraderumours is not a reliable source and that's the only place it seems to be mentioned

 

[BJCOLLINS]

fun one.

Andsersson for Savard (TDL value) + Anderson (2026 TDL value/cap dump negative value) + Mailloux + Beck + 2025 1st (top 2 protection)+ Mesar + 2nd.

This is a trade the Flames have to win to make. Otherwise there is no incentive to make it.

Savard brings back at least a 2nd in 2025 when he’s traded at the deadline.

Here’s a fire extinguisher for ya……..your flames are showing!!

 

[McJedi]

Why post when you know nothing about the players offered. A 1st, a potential top 4 d and 2 elite 3rd line centres (who may have 2c potential). A 1st, Barron and say Kidney/Farrell would be a fair offer.

Another sad joke of an offer from a Habs fan.

 

[HuGort]

Habs offer Flames their first back? Be around 15th

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Habs offer Flames their first back? Be around 15th

You will be giving it back when Calgary picks in the top 10 so no

 

[McJedi]

Why post when you know nothing about the players offered. A 1st, a potential top 4 d and 2 elite 3rd line centres (who may have 2c potential). A 1st, Barron and say Kidney/Farrell would be a fair offer.

As usual... Habs badly overvaluing their players. Beck is again in the minors. Mailloux has some of the worst analytics of any NHL defender this year. They are both doing pretty well in the AHL, but at the end of the day... No one cares if you're good in the AHL if you can't also be good in the NHL.
Farrell is an absolute nobody in the AHL at 23. He's got no value of note. Riley Kidney is another nobody in the AHL. Value is minor at best.

Barron... not sure his value. He's been up and down as well. The Habs collect all these young players, but the more you see guys like Newhook and Dach.. the less you like them. The less they are worth. Barron gives off the same vibes.

Beck is 20 so he's got plenty of time to develop. Mailloux too (he's 21), but neither appear ready today and based on what we saw from Mailloux so far... He's not close either. I don't deny some upside on either and their AHL work is promising. These are not scrub prospects by any means.

Rasmus Andersson is and always will be a superior player to either Beck or Mailloux. None of those guys appear to have a ceiling anywhere close to Rasmus.

It's surprising and disappointing to see how bad the Habs are yet again. I expected more.

Anderson and Matheson continue to produce brutal analytics. Savard is the worst player on the team in this regard.... except for Mailloux. Xhejkai's are a disaster. Hutson's are terrible. Dach and Newhook's are both terrible. Armia's are terrible. Barron's are terrible. Struble's are terrible.

The only guys playing well are your first line and Guhle. Gallegher, Evans and Dvorak's metrics aren't bad either. Not great, but not bad.

All in all.. the Habs are a very bad hockey team. I expected a lot more this season. The coach is probably a liability given the lack of performance by so many key players.

Slafkovsky looks like he'll be a player so at least it looks like that is going to be a good pick long term.