Rantanen vs Necas points race to end of season.

[Elysian]

You're trying to blame the humans at the avalanche front office for Rantanen acting like a child.

The Avs front office screwed him over. Straight up.

Lol. You can be human and still go to work with your head held high.

You've never had a bad time at work? Come on, this is getting silly.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

The Avs front office screwed him over. Straight up.

Did they? Or did Rantanen sign a contract that allowed him to be traded?

 

[Elysian]

Did they? Or did Rantanen sign a contract that allowed him to be traded?

They did.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

The Avs front office screwed him over. Straight up.


You've never had a bad time at work? Come on, this is getting silly.

Yeah, I have. And I recognize my actions impact other people I work with, so I’m not mailing in my effort and quitting.

They did.

Wrong answer.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

The Avs front office screwed him over. Straight up.

Maybe he shouldn't have played hard ball.

 

[Elysian]

Maybe he shouldn't have played hard ball.

He's got every right to negotiate for his services.

Yeah, I have. And I recognize my actions impact other people I work with, so I’m not mailing in my effort and quitting.


Wrong answer.

Nah. Cope. Avs screwed over both Rantanen and Carolina.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

He's got every right to negotiate for his services.


Nah. Cope.

And the Avs have every right to trade him when they realize his stance won’t allow them to come to terms.

Kind of like how you are taking a completely black and white stance and refusing to see the other side.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

He's got every right to negotiate for his services.

And they had every right to trade him.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Did they? Or did Rantanen sign a contract that allowed him to be traded?

That same contract allows him to perform at any level he wants since it has already been signed. How come you are "sticking up" for the Avs/Canes but not Rantanen even though both sides executed their perfectly legal rights?

It's so mind-boggling to me that people in NA think doing whatever you want with one of the best professional in his field is perfectly reasonable since he is under contract but that same professional leveraging his abilities is "acting like a child".

 

[Ararana]

This whole situation is doing wonders for us in the "Centers are the most important position in hockey" crowd. Mikko? Necas? MacKinnon is hardly noticing a difference on the stat sheet.

I'm a pretty big Chris MacFarland hater, but I have to admit he hit it out of the park with the Rantanen situation. Even knowing Mikko ends up in the Division, the Avs are so much better balanced with Necas/Drury/Lindgren than they would have been with just Mikko.

No team with proper centers should be giving wingers 10+ million a year. Success in the NHL is down the middle, on defense, and in net. Wingers are accessories.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

Nah. Cope. Avs screwed over both Rantanen and Carolina.

Wrong again. Explain how the Avs screwed over Rantanen by doing something that a contract Rantanen signed allowed them to do.

That same contract allows him to perform at any level he wants since it has already been signed. How come you are "sticking up" for the Avs/Canes but not Rantanen even though both sides executed their perfectly legal rights?

It does allow Rantanen to perform at any level he wants. It just makes him look very selfish for quitting on an entire team while they are all competing for something. People get put in hard situations all the time. How you act in those situations defines the person that you are.

 

[Elysian]

Wrong again. Explain how the Avs screwed over Rantanen by doing something that a contract Rantanen signed allowed them to do.


It does allow Rantanen to perform at any level he wants. It just makes him look very selfish for quitting on an entire team while they are all competing for something. People get put in hard situations all the time. How you act in those situations defines the person that you are.

If you don't get it already, you never will. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

This whole situation is doing wonders for us in the "Centers are the most important position in hockey" crowd. Mikko? Necas? MacKinnon is hardly noticing a difference on the stat sheet.

I'm a pretty big Chris MacFarland hater, but I have to admit he hit it out of the park with the Rantanen situation. Even knowing Mikko ends up in the Division, the Avs are so much better balanced with Necas/Drury/Lindgren than they would have been with just Mikko.

No team with proper centers should be giving wingers 10+ million a year. Success in the NHL is down the middle, on defense, and in net. Wingers are accessories.

Ovi is an accessory, got it

 

[Ararana]

Wrong again. Explain how the Avs screwed over Rantanen by doing something that a contract Rantanen signed allowed them to do.

Player walks in free agency - "that's his right, he's earned it"

Team drafts, develops, extends a player for 5 years, then trades him because he wants to much - "They screwed him over!"

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

If you don't get it already, you never will. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

You won’t explain it because you don’t have a rationale. You just think it’s ok to sulk and mope when things don’t go your way, and that’s selfish.

 

[Elysian]

You won’t explain it because you don’t have a rationale. You just think it’s ok to sulk and mope when things don’t go your way, and that’s selfish.

I've explained everything. The entire story is out there. You don't get it, that's not on me.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

I've explained everything. The entire story is out there. You don't get it, that's not on me.

Again, you have no rationale.

 

[SoundAndFury]

People get put in hard situations all the time. How you act in those situations defines the person that you are.

People get put in those situations because they have no choice. You are basically blaming him for having a choice.

 

[Elysian]

Again, you have no rationale.

Whatever you say.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

People get put in those situations because they have no choice. You are basically blaming him for having a choice.

No, blaming him for being immature and not thinking about how his actions affect others.

 

[Elysian]

No, blaming him for being immature and not thinking about how his actions affect others.

Irony is dead

 

[Ararana]

Ovi is an accessory, got it

Yes, he is. A very very good one, but an accessory.

1 cup in 20 seasons - a beacon of success. But hey, he scores a ton of goals, so he's got that going for him! People will talk for decades about how he's one of the best goal scorers in the history in the NHL, and they'll be right. And yet he has a single cup win in 20 years.

Meanwhile his counterpart Sidney Crosby, a center and another face of the franchise player, has three times that.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

Irony is dead

Dallas Stars fan blindly defending newly acquired star player to the death. Surprise.

 

[flyfysher]

If you don't get it already, you never will. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.


Ovi is an accessory, got it

You are unsophisticated.

 

[Elysian]

You are unsophisticated.

Theres some real brain rot on these boards.

 

[flyfysher]

Theres some real brain rot on these boards.

More like you don’t understand contracts, how they work or representation of a client.