Rumor: Rantanen Extension is Close???

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

I really think this is a fallicy.

15.27% - MacKinnon
11.35% - Rantanen
11.04% - Makar
37.66% on three players

Now add any one of the four from the below and regardless whose picked we are at 45%+ on 4 players:
07.42% - Nichushkin
08.59% - Landeskog
08.68% - Toews

It might not be 50% today, but only MacK and whoever was chosen from the above are being paid as UFAs. Rants and Makar will be asking for signficant cap percentage increases. Enough for a combined 5% between them? I'd say it's inevitable.

[edit... I'm relying on public education and cap percentages from capwages.com. Please be gentle.]

The main problem was the Leafs had 50% of the cap tied up with 4 forwards. Not 4 players the problem. 4 forwards and only one top tier C. If you're going to tie yourself to a forwards group you better have two elite centres.

I'm talking Crosy Malkin. I'm talking Point Stamkos. I'm talking McDavid RNH.

 

[willy702]

Your logic is broken.

I guess if you say so. I don't buy into the larger group think so call me an idiot if you want. There are plenty of game theory scenarios you can run through to see that NHL GMs suck at handling the top and bottom of their rosters but whatever I'm the idiot.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I guess if you say so. I don't buy into the larger group think so call me an idiot if you want. There are plenty of game theory scenarios you can run through to see that NHL GMs suck at handling the top and bottom of their rosters but whatever I'm the idiot.

Your rationalization for your whacky comments is avoiding “group think”? That’s incredibly rational.

 

[Vaslof]

A Finnish crapsite is ranking the top 100 Finnish NHL players of all time. Rantanen came in 4th. Ahead are of course Kurri and Selänne, but can you guess who else? Took me a while to realize who it was.

Other current Avs on the list:
Lehkonen at #40, should be higher than Laine or Granlund, but they have the media hype.
Kiviranta at #96

 

[willy702]

Your rationalization for your whacky comments is avoiding “group think”? That’s incredibly rational.

And you don't know how to debate rationally so f*** off

 

[John Mandalorian]

And you don't know how to debate rationally so f*** off

Regurgitating words someone else used as a form of gotcha rebuttal is certainly impressive.

 

[Nzap]

A Finnish crapsite is ranking the top 100 Finnish NHL players of all time. Rantanen came in 4th. Ahead are of course Kurri and Selänne, but can you guess who else? Took me a while to realize who it was.

Other current Avs on the list:
Lehkonen at #40, should be higher than Laine or Granlund, but they have the media hype.
Kiviranta at #96

I presume the Selke winner is in 3rd.

 

[niwotsblessing]

The main problem was the Leafs had 50% of the cap tied up with 4 forwards. Not 4 players the problem. 4 forwards and only one top tier C. If you're going to tie yourself to a forwards group you better have two elite centres.

I'm talking Crosy Malkin. I'm talking Point Stamkos. I'm talking McDavid RNH.

Sakic and Forsberg would like a word with you.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

A Finnish crapsite is ranking the top 100 Finnish NHL players of all time. Rantanen came in 4th. Ahead are of course Kurri and Selänne, but can you guess who else? Took me a while to realize who it was.

Other current Avs on the list:
Lehkonen at #40, should be higher than Laine or Granlund, but they have the media hype.
Kiviranta at #96

Lehtinen probably. Thought about Koivu simply because he was a superstar in international hockey, but his NHL accomplishments are not that impressive.

 

[Vaslof]

I presume the Selke winner is in 3rd.

Lehtinen probably. Thought about Koivu simply because he was a superstar in international hockey, but his NHL accomplishments are not that impressive.

Correct. I was still a casual pleb when he played and so I only cared about goal scorers.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Sakic and Forsberg would like a word with you.

In the cap era having RNH is better than Sakic as your #2C.

Especially with the tax rates in Edmonton.

 

[missionAvs]

In the cap era having RNH is better than Sakic as your #2C.

Especially with the tax rates in Edmonton.

And don't forget the whole Harrison Ford/Air Force One stuff.

 

[redacted]

A Finnish crapsite is ranking the top 100 Finnish NHL players of all time. Rantanen came in 4th. Ahead are of course Kurri and Selänne, but can you guess who else? Took me a while to realize who it was.

Other current Avs on the list:
Lehkonen at #40, should be higher than Laine or Granlund, but they have the media hype.
Kiviranta at #96

Yikes.

 

[Alienblood]

In the cap era having RNH is better than Sakic as your #2C.

Especially with the tax rates in Edmonton.

Sakic was the 1 C Forsberg 2

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Sakic was the 1 C Forsberg 2

True, although I’d go to my death bed arguing Forsberg was the better player. His line regularly got the harder matchups intentionally because of Foppa being a 2 way beast.

I also always felt Forsberg at his best was arguably the best player in the game at that time other than a healthy Lemieux or Jagr.

 

[redacted]

Foppa was a 2C in the same way Drai is... Not actually in practice. Both played a ton and limited the need for strong bottom 6s. Foppa also played a lot of wing later in his Avs (first) tenure like Drai.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Foppa was a 2C in the same way Drai is... Not actually in practice. Both played a ton and limited the need for strong bottom 6s. Foppa also played a lot of wing later in his Avs (first) tenure like Drai.

Down by a goal? Let’s just put 2 of the top 5 players in the world together and let them figure it out.

A coach’s dream.

 

[ABasin]

True, although I’d go to my death bed arguing Forsberg was the better player. His line regularly got the harder matchups intentionally because of Foppa being a 2 way beast.

I also always felt Forsberg at his best was arguably the best player in the game at that time other than a healthy Lemieux or Jagr.

I've always felt this way also.

But then again, Sakic's performance in the 2001 playoffs after Forsberg went down? Simply awesome.

Both great top shelf players.

 

[VikingAv]

True, although I’d go to my death bed arguing Forsberg was the better player. His line regularly got the harder matchups intentionally because of Foppa being a 2 way beast.

I also always felt Forsberg at his best was arguably the best player in the game at that time other than a healthy Lemieux or Jagr.

I've always felt this way also.

But then again, Sakic's performance in the 2001 playoffs after Forsberg went down? Simply awesome.

Both great top shelf players.

Finally a thread derailment that makes my heart all warm and tingly

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Finally a thread derailment that makes my heart all warm and tingly

What?...Talking about poutines doesn't do it for you?

 

[Balthazar]

Mack will go down as the best player in franchise history.

 

[ABasin]

What?...Talking about poutines doesn't do it for you?

I've decided that I prefer my poutine without any meat on top of it. Just straight cheese and gravy.


-AB, ducking for cover......

 

[BobRossColton]

Maybe if we close this thread, the extension will be announced right after.

 

[Avs9296]

Mack will go down as the best player in franchise history.

Don't think he will pass Joe...he needs another cup, a few more personal trophies and a lot more points to catch Sakic.

 

[missionAvs]

Maybe if we close this thread, the extension will be announced right after.

In that case, keep it open!