LOFIN
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Not sure how much weight one should put on Dater...
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. The last time Rantanen was negotiating, Dater posted that it's not close between him and the Avs... and then Rantanen signed like 48 hours later lol.Usually when Dater goes out of his way to say something like this it's true. Like the Nuke stuff.
The thing with contract negotiation is what is true now doesn't mean it's still going to be true an hour from now. So even if Rants' side did cut off talks for the entire season one phone call could change that.Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. The last time Rantanen was negotiating, Dater posted that it's not close between him and the Avs... and then Rantanen signed like 48 hours later lol.
Followed by 8 years of last year's level of effortI can easily see Rants' camp cutting things off for a while, but I can't see a situation where the Avs trade Rants. They'll either sign him, or he will walk. Dater is certainly trying to get people to pay for something the itch that anxiety.
I do think we're going to see a highly motivated Rants for a while.
CMac nearly lost Landy and lost Grubauer/Kadri doing the same thing.If Dater is telling the truth, it's a 50/50 crap shoot at this point with him, then it's disappointing to say the least.
You either needed to trade him at the draft or re-sign him over the summer. CMac did neither, which isn't surprising since he's not the best GM.
Now a trade gets us pennies on the dollar and he's not going sign anything short of massive overpayment, why would he this close to ufa.
The last thing you want to do is lose him for nothing which sadly is looking like a real possibility. Good job CMac.
Sakic was dealing with Landy and GrubauerCMac nearly lost Landy and lost Grubauer/Kadri doing the same thing.
Rants either signs at full UFA value (but spread over 8 years) or walks at the end of the season. We've been there before.
CMac was already there and taking part of the decision making.Sakic was dealing with Landy and Grubauer
The problem with Dater is the usually he’s wrong. But he has connections so he’s right like 20% of the time so you can’t completely write off what he says.No one listens to Dater until it fits their narrative.
I trust nothing this clown says.
good list of free agents and we would have his 9 mil to spend.Losing Rants without comparable return would be the official closing of the window.
We would likely still compete for the playoffs, but we would no longer be a true cup contending team.
Like the whole Nuke news... people railed him for that and hours later he was right. He's a dick, vindictive, and arrogant AF... but there are tidbits that are correct. He sill has somebody in the org feeding him.The problem with Dater is the usually he’s wrong. But he has connections so he’s right like 20% of the time so you can’t completely write off what he says.
Yeah unless Rants just wants to go to his agent and say 'lock me in for 8 years tomorrow' there is just no reason for them to cave. If this settles far below the market, it will be because Rants did the team a favor. Pretty large if.Lol if this shit was close it sure as f*** ain't after game 1.
I am sure we can find talent to fill his contract, but he is one of the top players in the league.good list of free agents and we would have his 9 mil to spend.
I see what you did there GIF.Like the whole Nuke news... people railed him for that and hours later he was right. He's a dick, vindictive, and arrogant AF... but there are tidbits that are correct. He sill has somebody in the org feeding him.
Where I think the real disconnect lies is that Dater puts his opinion on top of the scoop. The scoop is Rants' camp may have cut off negotiations... then Dater steps into his opinion of him walking/trade (TBF could be the clickbait, I'm not paying for his substack).
Was losing Grubauer really that bad though?CMac nearly lost Landy and lost Grubauer/Kadri doing the same thing.
Rants either signs at full UFA value (but spread over 8 years) or walks at the end of the season. We've been there before.
No it wasn't. I was just pointing out that they aren't afraid to go to the limit even with core players.Was losing Grubauer really that bad though?
And if you want to go further in history, they did the same with Sakic-Blake-Roy trio back in 2001. Was a close call, got done.No it wasn't. I was just pointing out that they aren't afraid to go to the limit even with core players.