wetcoast
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Just like the question asks rank these players at their peaks in a 7 game playoff series.
Bergeron
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kariya
Bergeron
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kariya
Bergeron
Kariya / Datsyuk
Hossa
Guy Lafleur
Bergeron
Kariya
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kopitar
Weird players for playoffs.
I feel both Datsyuk and Bergeron are overrated for playoffs. They did decent enough overall - but some people believe they are great or unstoppable, and that's just not the case. Datsyuk's playoffs are ~so-so all things considered.
Problem is - Hossa is the worst of the 4 players (even though pretty strong for playoffs) - and I think Kariya is possibly the best, but he has such a small playoff track record so it's hard to judge. I think I'd go:
Datsyuk
Kariya
Hossa
Bergeron
But - they're all relatively close, and I could see it go anyway from 1 to 4.
If this is based on that other thread that also involved Lafleur and Kopitar - Lafleur would be #1 by a huge margin, and I'd actually pick Kopitar #2. Better/more consistent playoff track record for him than these 4 players listed here.
I'd probably take them in this order:
1) Kariya
2) Bergeron
3) Datsyuk
4) Hossa
Swapping those bolded names is my list.Nooo!
Could you help explain the rationale behind Bergeron over Datsyuk? Kariya I can kinda understand but
Bergeron is just a worse version of the same player.
Yeah I would have Kopitar easily after Datsyuk but both behind Lafleur.
Bergeron is better defensively than Datsyuk.Could you help explain the rationale behind Bergeron over Datsyuk? Kariya I can kinda understand but Bergeron is just a worse version of the same player.
For ability I'm fine putting Kopitar behind Datsyuk. At their best - I'd say Datsyuk is better. But for actual resume - Kopitar was more consistent in the playoffs.
Datsyuk's playoff resume is simply not that great tbh. He was nothing special in the 2002 cup win - just a rookie it's true, but he was also already 23 years old.
He was outstaged by Zetterbeg in 2008. He didn't do too well in 2009 - I know he had some injury troubles, but 9 points in 16 games is just not good - he was 10th in team scoring.
113 playoff points in 157 games - that's not even a 60 points pace per 82 games.
For what it's worth - Bergeon actually provided more offense in playoffs than Datsyuk. 62 point pace per 82 games.
Bergeron is better defensively than Datsyuk.
Bergeron in his playoff career averages 62 points per 82 games. Datsyuk is at 59 points per 82 games - which means Bergeron also outmatched him offensively.
There's the rationale.
This question asks about players at their peaks so I don’t get the rationale of taking their entire playoff careers into account here. Infact it quite literally makes no sense.
This question asks about players at their peaks so I don’t get the rationale of taking their entire playoff careers into account here. Infact it quite literally makes no sense.