Rank the top 20 Leaf defensemen in the Post Pat Quinn era.

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Obviously we are looking at the body of work while with the Leafs. Although they haven’t played a game for the Leafs yet, I’m also interested to see where you might slot the new additions of Tanev and OEL into your list based their recent play.

I realize this may be a painful exercise for most of us, but it’s a rainy day and I though it might be appropriate.
 

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Rainy? Not sure where you are but it’s a beautiful morning in Burlington with nothing but sun and heat forecasted for the rest of the day.
 

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It ain’t raining here so I’m only going to guess at a few that were decent.
Kaberle
Dion
Schenn
Komisarek
Rielly
Hainsey
Muzzin
 

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Leetch
Kaberle
Rielly
Hainsey
Schenn
Dion
Fraser (before head injury)
Muzzin (before injuries)
Gio
 

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Twenty is a big number for a team with so much mediocrity in that timeframe.

Kaberle
Rielly
B. McCabe
Yushkevich
Phaneuf
Muzzin
Tanev
Gardiner
Ellett
Schenn
J. McCabe
Brodie
Kubina
Hainsey
Macoun
Markov
Mironov
Gill
OEL
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He might not have beem the "best", but Dave Ellett remains my favourite, with Rielly a close second.

Yuskevich was probably the "best" but he had some sort of blood clot in his leg that limited his time here. Muzzin and Kaberle round out my top five. There weren't any other defensemen that stood out for me in this period as anything special.

Except in a negative way (looking directly at you No Skill Todd Gill, Dion "Princess" Phaneuf, and Giveaway Gardiner).
 

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Kaberle
Rielly
B. McCabe
Phaneuf
Muzzin
Brodie
Schenn
J. McCabe
White
Beauchemin
Gunnarsson
Giordano
Hainsey
Benoit
Liljegren
Komisarek
Lyubushkin
 
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Minimum 150 games

Post Pat Quinn Era: 2006-2007 - todate.

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There isn't really much to add here. Its been a shitshow. The list though....
  1. Kaberle
  2. Rielly
  3. Muzzin
  4. Phaneuf
  5. B.McCabe
  6. J.McCabe
  7. Gardiner (he was good could drive play)
  8. Brodie (when he was good)
  9. Franson (offensie output was decent)
  10. Liljegren (yea... sue me I think he is pretty good)
  11. Kubina
  12. Gunnarsson
  13. Hainsey (he was very stable!)
  14. Gio (for a couple seasons)
  15. Schenn
  16. Komisarek
  17. Beauchemin
  18. Ian White
  19. Benoit/Stralman* (what could have been...)
  20. Polak (b/c I liked the Polak Smash more than the icings LMAO :laugh:)

Hon mentions: Sandin*, Dermott (i think we ruined his development), Lebda (who can forget that legend), Robidas (b/c of the island he created), Bogo (I think he was decent that 1 yr)

Note: not including tanev and oel as they haven't yet played for the Leafs
 

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Only 6 defenseman have scored 100 points in Leaf uniforms since Pat Quinn:
Rielly - 472
Gardiner - 245
Kaberle - 229
Phaneuf - 196
Franson - 115
Kubina - 101
 

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Only 6 defenseman have scored 100 points in Leaf uniforms since Pat Quinn:
Rielly - 472
Gardiner - 245
Kaberle - 229
Phaneuf - 196
Franson - 115
Kubina - 101
Ian White ended up with 99.

In the really bad years, White and Gunnarsson had two of the best +/-, while Phaneuf and Kaberle had the worst.
 

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He might not have beem the "best", but Dave Ellett remains my favourite, with Rielly a close second.

Yuskevich was probably the "best" but he had some sort of blood clot in his leg that limited his time here. Muzzin and Kaberle round out my top five. There weren't any other defensemen that stood out for me in this period as anything special.

Except in a negative way (looking directly at you No Skill Todd Gill, Dion "Princess" Phaneuf, and Giveaway Gardiner).
 

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There isn't really much to add here. Its been a shitshow. The list though....
  1. Kaberle
  2. Rielly
  3. Muzzin
  4. Phaneuf
  5. B.McCabe
  6. J.McCabe
  7. Gardiner (he was good could drive play)
  8. Brodie (when he was good)
  9. Franson (offensie output was decent)
  10. Liljegren (yea... sue me I think he is pretty good)
  11. Kubina
  12. Gunnarsson
  13. Hainsey (he was very stable!)
  14. Gio (for a couple seasons)
  15. Schenn
  16. Komisarek
  17. Beauchemin
  18. Ian White
  19. Benoit/Stralman* (what could have been...)
  20. Polak (b/c I liked the Polak Smash more than the icings LMAO :laugh:)

Hon mentions: Sandin*, Dermott (i think we ruined his development), Lebda (who can forget that legend), Robidas (b/c of the island he created), Bogo (I think he was decent that 1 yr)

Note: not including tanev and oel as they haven't yet played for the Leafs

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you are correct. I just listed 20 and didn't have Jake McCabe on there, I think I lost track of McCabes as I already had one.

Will edit and add Jake now.


Yep. Only one year here. That hurt when he left

Either Jake McCabe is being over-rated or Pavel Kubina is being under-rated. Kubina was the far superior player in Toronto.

McCabe has only been here for a little more than 1 year too…. and Svehla was miles better than McCabe.
 
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There isn't really much to add here. Its been a shitshow. The list though....
  1. Kaberle
  2. Rielly
  3. Muzzin
  4. Phaneuf
  5. B.McCabe
  6. J.McCabe
  7. Gardiner (he was good could drive play)
  8. Brodie (when he was good)
  9. Franson (offensie output was decent)
  10. Liljegren (yea... sue me I think he is pretty good)
  11. Kubina
  12. Gunnarsson
  13. Hainsey (he was very stable!)
  14. Gio (for a couple seasons)
  15. Schenn
  16. Komisarek
  17. Beauchemin
  18. Ian White
  19. Benoit/Stralman* (what could have been...)
  20. Polak (b/c I liked the Polak Smash more than the icings LMAO :laugh:)

Hon mentions: Sandin*, Dermott (i think we ruined his development), Lebda (who can forget that legend), Robidas (b/c of the island he created), Bogo (I think he was decent that 1 yr)

Note: not including tanev and oel as they haven't yet played for the Leafs

Still time for a couple of those to move up the chart.
Liljegren
Benoit
 
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B. McCabe was great at the beginning, but his can opener move he used for a while was eventually banned. Much less effective when they penalized him for his style of defensive play.
 
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B. McCabe was great at the beginning, but his can opener move he used for a while was eventually banned. Much less effective when they penalized him for his style of defensive play.
I don't think it was banned, they just started enforcing it. It was always a tripping penalty.
 

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There isn't really much to add here. Its been a shitshow. The list though....
  1. Kaberle
  2. Rielly
  3. Muzzin
  4. Phaneuf
  5. B.McCabe
  6. J.McCabe
  7. Gardiner (he was good could drive play)
  8. Brodie (when he was good)
  9. Franson (offensie output was decent)
  10. Liljegren (yea... sue me I think he is pretty good)
  11. Kubina
  12. Gunnarsson
  13. Hainsey (he was very stable!)
  14. Gio (for a couple seasons)
  15. Schenn
  16. Komisarek
  17. Beauchemin
  18. Ian White
  19. Benoit/Stralman* (what could have been...)
  20. Polak (b/c I liked the Polak Smash more than the icings LMAO :laugh:)

Hon mentions: Sandin*, Dermott (i think we ruined his development), Lebda (who can forget that legend), Robidas (b/c of the island he created), Bogo (I think he was decent that 1 yr)

Note: not including tanev and oel as they haven't yet played for the Leafs

Kubina was a lot better than Liljegren. He’d probably be on the top pairing on this current team.
 
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