Rank Canucks' prospects

[Blue and Green]

Prospect is any Canuck property aged 25 or less when Dec 31 rolls around, who has played in fewer than 50 NHL games (30 for goalies) including postseason. Thus, Raty, Bains, Silovs and Lekkerimaki are prospects even though they are on the Vancouver roster at the moment. On the farm, Brisebois is DQ'ed by age, Aman by games played. And I should mention, since the Kravtsov thread is The Thing That Never Dies... he is DQ'ed on games played.

Rank as many as you like, to a maximum of 20.

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[MS]

I always rank prospects based on Calder eligibility, although I don't think it changes anything from the OP's metrics :

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson (II)
4. Aatu Raty
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Arturs Silovs
8. Kirill Kudryatsev
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Max Sasson
11. Danila Klimovich
12. Jackson Dorrington
13. Cole McWard
14. Anthony Romani
15. Linus Karlsson
16. Aku Koskenvuo
17. Vilmer Alriksson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Riley Patterson
20. Christian Felton

NR : Alcos, Sansonnens, Perkins, Celebrini, Young, Gardner, Forssel, Woo, Nielsen, Tolopilo, Bloom

 

[VanJack]

I always rank prospects based on Calder eligibility, although I don't think it changes anything from the OP's metrics :

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson (II)
4. Aatu Raty
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Arturs Silovs
8. Kirill Kudryatsev
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Max Sasson
11. Danila Klimovich
12. Jackson Dorrington
13. Cole McWard
14. Anthony Romani
15. Linus Karlsson
16. Aku Koskenvuo
17. Vilmer Alriksson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Riley Patterson
20. Christian Felton

NR : Alcos, Sansonnens, Perkins, Celebrini, Young, Gardner, Forssel, Woo, Nielsen, Tolopilo, Bloom

Can't really argue with this list as whole. I think Arliksson may be too low, based on his pre-season and performance in the prospects tournament. And Fernstrom may be too high, based on what he's done so far this season.

If it were still he pre-season, I'd have said that Elias Pettersson II was rated far too highly. But damn, as a 20-year old, he's come in and been one of Abbotsford's best d-men night after night.

 

[MS]

Can't really argue with this list as whole. I think Arliksson may be too low, based on his pre-season and performance in the prospects tournament. And Fernstrom may be too high, based on what he's done so far this season.

If it were still he pre-season, I'd have said that Elias Pettersson II was rated far too highly. But damn, as a 20-year old, he's come in and been one of Abbotsford's best d-men night after night.

Alriksson to me looked unplayably terrible in his preseason games other than having a nice fight.

If he actually starts producing at lower levels this season or manages to transition to being an effective bottom-6 AHLer next year I'll move him up but to me he's a very marginal prospect.

 

[VanJack]

Alriksson to me looked unplayably terrible in his preseason games other than having a nice fight.

If he actually starts producing at lower levels this season or manages to transition to being an effective bottom-6 AHLer next year I'll move him up but to me he's a very marginal prospect.

Maybe, maybe not. But why would the Canucks have bothered signing him to an ELC after training camp, if he were indeed a 'marginal prospect'.

I honestly doubt they'd have wasted a contract spot on him, if they shared your assessment.

 

[Bgav]

Most intriguing: Fernstrom.

 

[Vector]

I always rank prospects based on Calder eligibility, although I don't think it changes anything from the OP's metrics :

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson (II)
4. Aatu Raty
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Arturs Silovs
8. Kirill Kudryatsev
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Max Sasson
11. Danila Klimovich
12. Jackson Dorrington
13. Cole McWard
14. Anthony Romani
15. Linus Karlsson
16. Aku Koskenvuo
17. Vilmer Alriksson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Riley Patterson
20. Christian Felton

NR : Alcos, Sansonnens, Perkins, Celebrini, Young, Gardner, Forssel, Woo, Nielsen, Tolopilo, Bloom

Has Tolopilo's poor start, and granted he's a year older than Silovs, dropped him that far?

 

[MS]

Maybe, maybe not. But why would the Canucks have bothered signing him to an ELC after training camp, if he were indeed a 'marginal prospect'.

I honestly doubt they'd have wasted a contract spot on him, if they shared your assessment.

They obviously don't share my assessment. I'm sure he might be higher on their internal list but I really don't care - I don't think he's a very good prospect.

Has Tolopilo's poor start, and granted he's a year older than Silovs, dropped him that far?

He's a Group VI UFA at the end of this season and does not look close to getting an NHL game before that happens, so he's dropped like a stone for me. He needed a huge camp/preseason/start to this season to solidify himself as an actual prospect given his age and that hasn't happened.

 

[Josepho]

Not informed enough anymore to give a full list but my feeling is that Koskenvuo is slipping under the radar and should probably be 10th or so.

Off to a great start this year and was Harvard's best goalie by a mile last year.

 

[Vector]

He's a Group VI UFA at the end of this season and does not look close to getting an NHL game before that happens, so he's dropped like a stone for me. He needed a huge camp/preseason/start to this season to solidify himself as an actual prospect given his age and that hasn't happened.

Puckpedia doesn't have him on their Group VI UFA Tracker. He will have only played 2 professional seasons, after this one is over, while under an NHL contract.

 

[MS]

Puckpedia doesn't have him on their Group VI UFA Tracker. He will have only played 2 professional seasons, after this one is over, while under an NHL contract.

Oh, interesting. I didn't realize there was a 3-season requirement.

In any case he'll be 25 and appears to be our current AHL backup to Patera.

 

[Vector]

Oh, interesting. I didn't realize there was a 3-season requirement.

In any case he'll be 25 and appears to be our current AHL backup to Patera.

I wouldn't call him a back-up since it's been an even timeshare but he's taken a massive step-back this season. I was really high on him after last season and thought he had the potential to supplant Silovs.

 

[MS]

I wouldn't call him a back-up since it's been an even timeshare but he's taken a massive step-back this season. I was really high on him after last season and thought he had the potential to supplant Silovs.

I liked his play last year too but at his age you have to show significant year-on-year improvement. Even if he's an RFA I suspect he won't be qualified this summer as Patera and Young are both on NHL contracts.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

1. Willander
2. Lekkerimaki
3. Raty
4. Silovs
5. Pettersson
6. Bains
7. Kudryavstev
8. Mynio
9. Sasson
10. Fernstrom

That’s my top 10 right now. If I had to guess, I’d say Mynio is most likely to climb higher up my list as this season progresses.

 

[thecupismine]

I always rank prospects based on Calder eligibility, although I don't think it changes anything from the OP's metrics :

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson (II)
4. Aatu Raty
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Arturs Silovs
8. Kirill Kudryatsev
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Max Sasson
11. Danila Klimovich
12. Jackson Dorrington
13. Cole McWard
14. Anthony Romani
15. Linus Karlsson
16. Aku Koskenvuo
17. Vilmer Alriksson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Riley Patterson
20. Christian Felton

NR : Alcos, Sansonnens, Perkins, Celebrini, Young, Gardner, Forssel, Woo, Nielsen, Tolopilo, Bloom

Basically two potential impact players over the course of this core's contention window (top 6 winger and a top 4 dman), and from 3-7 you'd be happy to see any of them become impactful bottom 6/bottom pairing dmen in that time frame. Everything beyond that is a major long shot.

 

[Knight53]

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Sawyer Mynio
4. Elias Pettersson
5. Arturs Silovs
6. Aatu Raty
7. Kirill Kudryatsev
8. Arshdeep Bains
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Vilmer Alriksson
11. Max Sasson
12. Ty Young
13. Jackson Dorrington
14. Ty Mueller
15. Danila Klimovich

 

[John Belushi]

I always rank prospects based on Calder eligibility, although I don't think it changes anything from the OP's metrics :

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson (II)
4. Aatu Raty
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Arturs Silovs
8. Kirill Kudryatsev
9. Melvin Fernstrom
10. Max Sasson
11. Danila Klimovich
12. Jackson Dorrington
13. Cole McWard
14. Anthony Romani
15. Linus Karlsson
16. Aku Koskenvuo
17. Vilmer Alriksson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Riley Patterson
20. Christian Felton

NR : Alcos, Sansonnens, Perkins, Celebrini, Young, Gardner, Forssel, Woo, Nielsen, Tolopilo, Bloom

Rough collection of prospects. Realistically I see only 2 possible impact players - and maybe 3-4 depth NHLers past that.

Despite the top level talent on the NHL squad, the organization almost feels due for another rebuild 4-5 years down the road. Its tough being a Vancouver hockey fan.

 

[VanJack]

Rough collection of prospects. Realistically I see only 2 possible impact players - and maybe 3-4 depth NHLers past that.

Despite the top level talent on the NHL squad, the organization almost feels due for another rebuild 4-5 years down the road. Its tough being a Vancouver hockey fan.

Isn't this basically the case with most NHL organizations? Every year Sportsnet publishes a list of the top 60 NHL affiliated prospects from across the league. Very few teams have more than a couple of players on the last list.

Officially, the Canucks had just two on that list--Lekerimakki and #15 and Wilander at #23. The rest of their prospect pool is all about 'wishing, hoping the praying'.

For the record, I really believe that Mynio, Elias Pettersson II and maybe Kudryavtsev will play NHL games. And if you consider Bains and Silovs as still being 'prospects' they're already with the NHL Canucks.

For most of the rest of them, at this point they probably project as AHL players at best. But that's just the reality of drafting and development. More draft picks flop than ever make the show.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Isn't this basically the case with most NHL organizations? Every year Sportsnet publishes a list of the top 60 NHL affiliated prospects from across the league. Very few teams have more than a couple of players on the last list.

Officially, the Canucks had just two on that list--Lekerimakki and #15 and Wilander at #23. The rest of their prospect pool is all about 'wishing, hoping the praying'.

For the record, I really believe that Mynio, Elias Pettersson II and maybe Kudryavtsev will play NHL games. And if you consider Bains and Silovs as still being 'prospects' they're already with the NHL Canucks.

For most of the rest of them, at this point they probably project as AHL players at best. But that's just the reality of drafting and development. More draft picks flop than ever make the show.Ratu?

Raty? And Alriksson should be higher that KK. And Dorrington is one that haas a chance.

 

[Blue and Green]

I admit freely that I don't know a whole lot about many of the lesser non-AHL guys in the system and that's okay; we're just having some fun here.

1. Willander
2. Lekkerimaki
3. Mynio
4. Pettersson
5. Raty
6. Kudryavtsev
7. Fernstrom
8. Silovs
9. Bains
10. Klimovich
11. Alriksson
12. Young
13. Patterson
14. Dorrington
15. McWard
16. Sasson
17. Koskenvuo
18. Mueller
19. Tolopilo
20. Romani

 

[WTG]

I look forward to next season when a lot of the "maybe he has some potential in him" players hit the AHL. Especially since the AHL team is so starved for forward prospects. It's incredibly hard to rate players like Romani, Alriksson, Mynio, and Dorrington till they play some AHL games.

Having at least some prospects in the farm would making the AHL games a bit more exciting as well.

 

[Tryamkin]

Here's my list having watched 2 live Abby games so far this year and around a dozen last year;

1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Aatu Raty
4. Elias Pettersson
5. Sawyer Mynio
6. Arshdeep Bains
7. Melvin Fernstrom
8. Danila Klimovich
9. Arturs Silovs
10. Kirill Kudryatsev
11. Max Sasson
12. Vilmer Alriksson
13. Aku Koskenvuo
14. Lucas Forsell
15. Jackson Dorrington
16. Ty Young
17. Linus Karlsson
18. Ty Mueller
19. Cole McWard
20. Nikita Tolopilo

 

[Raistlin]

Raty will be an NHL player for sure.

 

[VanJack]

I know a lot of Canuck fans were cheering when Allvin struck early and often prior to last year's TDL.

Bringing in Zadorov and Lindholm was considered a coup by most of the Canuck faithful, myself included. But at the end of the day, all these acquisitions enabled the Canucks to do was survive a round and enrich the Aquilini's with a few more home playoff dates.

But since this is a prospect site, we also have to address the 'hangover'. Zadorov cost the Canucks a fifth round pick in 2024 and a third rounder in 2026. Again just in terms of draft picks, Lindholm cost them their 2024 first rounder and a conditional 2024 fourth rounder.

So that's four draft picks flushed out the door for two months of Zadorov and Lindholm. Thus in the 2024 entry draft the Canucks were without a first, a second (previously traded); a fourth and a fifth. It's fair to speculate how many of those picks might have eventually have shown up on the list of 'top Canuck prospects'.