GDT: Rangers vs. Golden Knights - Sun 12/16/18 - 12:30PM EST

[effen]

ADA made that PP by being able to cover both points on keep ins.

 

[Messrules11]

They still developed and became better players after being drafted. Not reaching potential =/= not developing at all

What did they develop into exactly? First overall busts?

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Strome shows why he was drafted where he was

 

[trilobyte]

DeAngelo should just be on the first unit all the time. His movement on the line was aggressive and opportunistic and Zibs fed off it nicely.

 

[Siddi]

Well just caught that PP, at least thats working and looking good for them.

The PP is basicly the only thing they have going for them this game apart from Hank being a beast.

 

[Machinehead]

Kreider shooting 13% on clean looks, per Valiquette.

Bringing some fire.

 

[Lays]

Strome with a sick dangle and then he was like

He also had that great defensive play
I really wouldn’t mind keeping Strome around for a while, great bottom 6er

 

[will1066]

Those Chase spots are dumb

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What did they develop into exactly? First overall busts?

Were they the same players at age 25 as they were at age 20? If your answer to this is "yes" you clearly do not know how to look at player development. Again, not reaching your potential is not the same as not developing.

 

[mike14]

Never said they don’t. Even 25 year olds can still develop. But it usually won’t be that significant.

Hayes would like a word

 

[Siddi]

He also had that great defensive play
I really wouldn’t mind keeping Strome around for a while, great bottom 6er

I agree,

 

[Messrules11]

Were they the same players at age 25 as they were at age 20? If your answer to this is "yes" you clearly do not know how to look at player development. Again, not reaching your potential is not the same as not developing.

They might have been worse actually

 

[Ori]

I was in phone with sister, but a beauty by Kreider 3-3!

 

[Ghost of jas]

Just to put a capper on the Andersson talk. Going into the draft, he was CSS’ third-ranked European skater. He wasn’t a reach in that draft. And I’m someone who wanted Cody Glass.

 

[Machinehead]

The Chytil is real

 

[Killem Dafoe]

Zucc and Chytil again. Love it.

 

[nevesis]

Hit the f***ing net.

 

[Rempe73]

The thing is you're operating from an absolute - to you Andersson sucks and will keep sucking and was a wasted pick.

For a great deal of people it's simply too early on to come to such absolutes.

You cannot guarantee anything about Andersson's career at this point. Maybe he'll develop into a good player, maybe he won't... but the only guy in this fight with a seemingly immovable opinion is you. That's not a good way to be... in any aspect of life.

What do you hope to get out of it? The opportunity to say "I told you so"?

You have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve admitted I was wrong so many times on hfboards. And I never say I know anything as a fact. These are all my opinions, and I usually say “I believe that...”.

You make assumptions, and then you put words in my mouth. I never said Andersson won’t develop. I said it seems like he won’t develop much more. I’ve seen this before. It happens. And how many times have I said “I hope I’m wrong” about Lias? 3 or 4 times, I believe?

Please get your facts straight.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Hayes would like a word

So would Brassard.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

The Chytil is real

Good play but lacks finish still

 

[Siddi]

Hit the f***ing net!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

They might have been worse actually

Yakupov today is a much better player than when he was drafted. Much more mature, more aware, more a team-player. Just not the player he was intended to be when he was drafted.

 

[Svenhart2008]

Men at work. Nice

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Hayes would like a word

Yeah, I am done discussing this. Lias won't develop because he is already 20 years old. It's just ridiculous.

 

[Siddi]

Hit the ****ing net.

Hit the ****ing net!

Haha

 

[effen]

Good play but lacks finish still

One of his best games of the year due to him acutally skating all the time.