Larry Brooks: Rangers/Red Wings Trouba Talks Heating up, NYR would retain $2.5

[80shockeywasbuns]

The flipside to a front office that gets a reputation as not showing loyalty to players is that players are less likely to give teams any kind of hometown discount.

Depends which players you ask. I’m sure Zac Jones isn’t thrilled when the team shows insane levels of loyalty to players worse than him. Laf too

 

[nyr2k2]

Any day but if he’s on tomorrow’s then he clears Monday at noon or is picked up

I’m sure Drury knows the list already

If Detroit wants him and he wants to go vs 15 other teams he’s a fool to risk going somewhere less desirable to him

Are you sure we can waive him before Monday? He still has a valid NMC through the end of tomorrow if I understand correctly, so waivers would serve no purpose. Monday the NMC becomes a M-NTC and he could then be waived.

We can waive him before his NMC ends?

I don't think we can. Which is what makes the timing so awful, because we need to resolve his situation before free agency starts Monday. If we can't even waive him until Monday, Tuesday afternoon is the earliest we would have clarity on our cap.

It's also the only reason I even brought up the buyout possibility.

 

[Slaydagnar]

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[Vitto79]

Are you sure we can waive him before Monday? He still has a valid NMC through the end of tomorrow if I understand correctly, so waivers would serve no purpose. Monday the NMC becomes a M-NTC and he could then be waived.


I don't think we can. Which is what makes the timing so awful, because we need to resolve his situation before free agency starts Monday. If we can't even waive him until Monday, Tuesday afternoon is the earliest we would have clarity on our cap.

It's also the only reason I even brought up the buyout possibility.

Good point but if a ufa really wants to sign with NYR they will wait till Tuesday at noon ?

I guess they do that a risk of other teams moving on

Drury could find more than 1 taker if he blocks Detroit ?

 

[MysticLeviathan]

The list was submitted to Drury prior to the rumors becoming public

can’t he adjust his list before july 1st though?

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Good point but if a ufa really wants to sign with NYR they will wait till Tuesday at noon ?

I guess they do that a risk of other teams moving on

Drury could find more than 1 taker if he blocks Detroit ?

Going into Monday with absolutely no understanding of exactly how much cap space we’ll have is a complete hamstring scenario we can’t allow to happen. Either something needs to happen by then, or Drury needs to at least know the eventual outcome with extremely high certainty.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Depends which players you ask. I’m sure Zac Jones isn’t thrilled when the team shows insane levels of loyalty to players worse than him. Laf too

Hogwash. Zac Jones is a young guy just hoping for a chance and I'm sure he has a lot of respect for a vet and the team's captain. Same with Laf. The players in that locker room think a whole lot different than the fans.

 

[NickyFotiu]

At what point can we actually waive him? Noon Monday, correct?

I believe on Monday is the end of the NMC time period.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Contracts and trades are agreed to in principal before becoming official or announced often. I'm sure Drury knows how to handle things.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Contracts and trades are agreed to in principal before becoming official or announced often. I'm sure Drury knows how to handle things.

Until it’s official, you can always get burned. Especially in a scenario when free agency opens up and things become so fluid.

Going into free agency with one hand tied behind your back is not a good situation.

 

[bobbop]

In the Detroit thread they had a deal posted from some guy who I dont know how credible he is as Trouba 2.5m retained + kappo for Veleno, Holl who Rangers will buy out and a 4th.

If that is the deal its horrid.

I’ll answer that.

Not credible

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I’ll answer that.

Not credible

What do we think a potential deal with Detroit could look like?

 

[DanielBrassard]

It is quite the predicament that Drury won’t be able to waive him until Monday lol, but I wonder if he might get a heads up from a GM on whether they will claim Trouba. I would assume not but that might be a saving grace. And there can always be a deal worked out with Detroit or whoever beforehand. The rangers would be able to go over the cap 10% so I don’t think it would be a huge deal as far as signing someone as long as they have an inkling he would be picked up.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Buying out Trouba would be dumb imo. That carries too much dead money for the next 4 years. Even if the Detroit thing doesn't work out there are 16 teams that he can be traded to and I'm sure there would be several teams interested with 2-2.5 mil in retention.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Trouba squashing this trade is the best defense he’s done since he came here

 

[bobbop]

For a team that prides itself on an airtight front office, someone clearly screwed this up by letting this news filter out.

 

[bleedblue94]

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More or less what I said hours ago. What a mess this is becoming.

For a team that prides itself on an airtight front office, someone clearly screwed this up by letting this news filter out.

Don't be so sure it came from the front office...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Listen to the 32 thoughts Friedman just released (like 10 mins ago) and then you can apologize...

This isn't as cut and dry as you and other want it to be. Trouba and Kurt boy can make this very difficult for nyr to pull off

Yup looks like I was wrong.

See how easy that was?

 

[Hire Sather]

This is a guy who has always been a pain in the ass.

Always gave Winnipeg trouble when it came to a contract.

Whatever. We'll just work around it and waive him.

 

[Hire Sather]

Hopefully if he stays he's stripped of his captaincy

 

[bleedblue94]

This is a guy who has always been a pain in the ass.

Always gave Winnipeg trouble when it came to a contract.

Whatever. We'll just work around it and waive him.

Kurt Overhardt

 

[Hire Sather]

Kurt Overhardt

His wife doesn't help either. She's the one who pushed him out of Winnipeg.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I will be booing trouba very time I’m at the garden next season.

 

[bleedblue94]

His wife doesn't help either. She's the one who pushed him out of Winnipeg.

Every family has wants, every single one of them. Not all of them are working with the people that will get those things done.

People ignore that trouba got to the destination that he and his family wanted AND he got a sweetheart contract that even at the time was looked at as an overpayment.

Kurt is a dick, but he is a dick for his clients.

People forget the Ryan Kesler fiasco out of Vancouver to Anaheim? One guess who his agent was that dominated that situation...

Do you know who cutter gauthiers agent is that rocked the flyers?

 

[jay from jersey]

For a team that prides itself on an airtight front office, someone clearly screwed this up by letting this news filter out.

Think this is a strategic leak.
Let it start to sink in to Trouba he needs to get his affairs in order, cause 1 way or another, his time here is almost done.
I’m sure he’ll hear speculation, scenarios from talking heads, calls from friends and family. But ultimately he won’t be on the team next year.
I can absolutely see him saying I’m not waiving my NMC, I need time to think/talk over with wife/fam..
Perhaps if this does go south in any way, it pulls another interested party into the fold because now everyone knows he’s publicly available.
No one ever has broken trades or even usually has any credible info of who the FO is targeting since Drury took over, the timing of this leak leads me to believe it’s purposefully done for whatever reasons….