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Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 8.7.18)

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I have a serious question about Pronman because I know nothing about him. Did someone in the organization like Rosasco disrespect him or not give him proper media access? Or is he one of those people like on the main site who make claims that haven't been relevant since 2003 like "Oh the Rangers never draft well" and 'Oh the Rangers don't have anyone under 30 on their roster"

It just doesn't make sense. Facts are facts and while the Rangers haven't had an elite forward, they have drafted pretty good and done a very good job of adapting to the post 2004-05 NHL world based on their record.
 
Kshahdoo said:
It looks like Rykov had a very good pre-season tournament in Sochi. Of course, pre-season is just pre-season, but I hope he will at last get a permanent place on SKA top6, or even top4. Competion amongst defensemen on the team is going to be tough, though.
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Pronman has always liked Rykov. That count for anything?

Wasn’t Rykov an SKA top 6 regular last year? He played in 53 games plus playoffs.
 
Pronman's 2016 draft preview

59. Yegor Rykov, D, SKA (KHL)
DOB: 4/14/97 | Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 205
GP: 20 | G: 3 | A: 7
I was surprised Rykov wasn't drafted last season. It was possibly due to the "Russian factor," and while he didn't have a mind-blowing season, he was solid for an 18-year-old skating in the KHL and had a good WJC. I think any NHL org would benefit from his skills, and he's cleared the hurdle of being good enough to be worth the risk of a draft pick late in the second round or early in the third. Rykov doesn't have one standout ability; he's not going to blaze by on a rush, or lay a crushing hit, but I don't see a glaring weakness in his game. He skates well, can move the puck, has some offensive creativity, and is a reliable positional defender who has shown the ability to check the best players in his age group as well as older players.
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32. Brett Howden, C, Moose Jaw (WHL)
DOB: 3/29/98 | Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 193
GP: 68 | G: 24 | A: 40
A top name in prospect circles for a number of years, Brett is nearly a carbon copy of his older brother, Quinton, a first-round pick of the Florida Panthers (2010) who played in 58 games for the club in 2015-16. Howden skates very well and displays an easy stride and great first step. He is a competitive, two-way forward who hustles for pucks every shift. With his size, character and hockey IQ, Howden is a very good defensive forward who has been leaned on by Moose Jaw to play critical defensive minutes. He's not a lights-out scorer, but he has some scoring tools. He'll show solid vision and shooting skills, though his hands and creativity aren't the best. He likely won't be a primary puck carrier on the power play as a pro, as he'll get more of his offense from being the main guy to gain the zone and win battles.
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38. Ryan Lindgren, D, USA U18 (USHL)
DOB: 2/11/98 | Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 198
GP: 54 | G: 4 | A: 16
Lindgren has been a touted name coming up through the ranks for a few years. Although he wasn't a dominant force this season, he was a pretty solid two-way defender for the USNTDP. He's a good skater who can join the rush effectively, and he has the mobility to stay with quick forwards. He handles the puck well and shows the occasional flash of top-level skill, but he mostly contains himself to good, short passes. Lindgren is a tough competitor who battles for pucks as hard as anybody and will lay out some crushing hits on occasion. His decision-making isn't perfect, but it's not a huge hole in his game. His shot could be a little better too. Lindgren is committed to the University of Minnesota starting next season.
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46. Libor Hajek, D, Saskatoon (WHL)
DOB: 2/4/98 | Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 196
GP: 69 | G: 3 | A: 23
Hajek has been a top prospect for a few years. He was one of the top 16-year-old players in recent memory to be a regular in the top Czech league, and he was one of Saskatoon's best players this season. Hajek is a fantastic skater, one of the very best in this draft class. He closes his gaps well on his checks, evades pressure and is a threat offensively by activating off the point or jumping into the rush. He moves the puck efficiently, shows some creativity on the power play and is a steady positional player. He is also able to defend his off-wing very effectively. Hajek's hands aren't great, but his IQ lets him get his points, as he opens lanes so well with timing, patience and skating ability. Hajek has some room on his frame to bulk up, and he shows the intangibles to battle for pucks and throw his weight around.
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Pronman had McAvoy at #26.

Honorable mentions:
Henrik Borgstrom, LW, HIFK (Jr. A Liiga)
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Top 100 prospects for the 2016 NHL draft

Borgstrom is one of the top young prospects in the NHL and he was an honorable mention.
 
It's hard to evaluate kids when they're 17, 18. So much of the evaluation is based on the idea that their development will continue, and it's really difficult to project with any accuracy whether that will happen.
 
Yeah Borgstrom is going to be very very good IMO. Florida has fantastic center depth. What a great problem to have
 
nyr2k2 said:
It's hard to evaluate kids when they're 17, 18. So much of the evaluation is based on the idea that their development will continue, and it's really difficult to project with any accuracy whether that will happen.
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Not going to lie, outside of his wild takes and emphasis on skill, Pronman's actual ability to evaluate and project talent would be considered only slightly above the middle of the pack in a head-to-head competition against HF Boards' best posters.

I give him props, he's turned it into a niche career for himself. But I see a lot more social media flash than actual observational substance.

To me, he's the gateway to the prospect world for those who either don't know what they're looking at, or have only a passing interest.
 
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Not going to lie, outside of his wild takes and emphasis on skill, Pronman's actual ability to evaluate and project talent would be considered only slightly above the middle of the pack in a head-to-head competition against HF Boards' best posters.

I give him props, he's turned it into a niche career for himself. But I see a lot more social media flash than actual observational substance.

To me, he's the gateway to the prospect world for those who either don't know what they're looking at, or have only a passing interest.
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Yep. He's for the guy who used to know nothing about prospects and would then go buy the THN Draft Issue and proclaim himself an expert.
 
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I used to dislike KLaw--I bought into this narrative spun by a lot of my fellow Mets fans that he was overly-harsh on our prospects. And then, suddenly, he wasn't! And it became pretty clear that there were just a certain crop of Mets prospects that he didn't like for various reasons. I also used to find him arrogant and condescending, but he seems to have toned that down a bit. Granted I don't use Twitter and I no longer sign up for ESPN Insider, but I feel like KLaw has become much more tolerable.

Pronman blows ass.

Funny thing is, we have a poster here that is on the Pronman-track of just reading a bunch of shit, passing it off as firsthand knowledge, and then making a career of it. When we see said poster writing for some half-assed hockey publication in a few years, we can all shake our heads. Because we know. :laugh:
 
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nyr2k2 said:
I used to dislike KLaw--I bought into this narrative spun by a lot of my fellow Mets fans that he was overly-harsh on our prospects. And then, suddenly, he wasn't! And it became pretty clear that there were just a certain crop of Mets prospects that he didn't like for various reasons. I also used to find him arrogant and condescending, but he seems to have toned that down a bit. Granted I don't use Twitter and I no longer sign up for ESPN Insider, but I feel like KLaw has become much more tolerable.

Pronman blows ass.

Funny thing is, we have a poster here that is on the Pronman-track of just reading a bunch of ****, passing it off as firsthand knowledge, and then making a career of it. When we see said poster writing for some half-assed hockey publication in a few years, we can all shake our heads. Because we know. :laugh:
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Wait, there's a new Sharkie??????

@Edge , what do you know of this?
 
nyr2k2 said:
I used to dislike KLaw--I bought into this narrative spun by a lot of my fellow Mets fans that he was overly-harsh on our prospects. And then, suddenly, he wasn't! And it became pretty clear that there were just a certain crop of Mets prospects that he didn't like for various reasons. I also used to find him arrogant and condescending, but he seems to have toned that down a bit. Granted I don't use Twitter and I no longer sign up for ESPN Insider, but I feel like KLaw has become much more tolerable.

Pronman blows ass.

Funny thing is, we have a poster here that is on the Pronman-track of just reading a bunch of ****, passing it off as firsthand knowledge, and then making a career of it. When we see said poster writing for some half-assed hockey publication in a few years, we can all shake our heads. Because we know. :laugh:
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You can’t be talking about a certain poster who goes by the moniker of a guy who is due for a breakout season can you?
 
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I’d have more sympathy towards Pronman if he weren’t so pretentious when it came to analyzing players. The dude gets way too caught up in the razzle dazzle stuff with prospects and just completely misses the mark on evaluating tangible and intangible traits that make a successful hockey player.

I get where he’s coming from, but he grossly overstates the difference in skill levels between some of the top prospects, and he too often just opts for the flashier player. It’s frustrating.
 
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I'm not sure it's possible to truly hate someone as utterly mediocre as Pronman.
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Yeah, I don't hate Pronman or even dislike him, per se.

I just don't think he has any particularly great insight, or brings anything to the table that results in a greater degree of accuracy when it comes to evaluating and observing prospects. If you're going to be that Millenial, douchie, social media darling kind of guy, I expect to see consistent results that are above average.

I expect to see insights that other people aren't talking about until later, I expect to see track records that highlighted talent AHEAD of the curve, not the blind squirrel occasionally finding a nut type.

If you've seen something, I expect you to take credit for that observation. However, if you're taking someone else's observations, because you haven't seen a prospect, or don't have a particular read on them, I expect you to acknowledge that as well. That's basic reporting ethics and anyone who's spent more than a semester in a journalism class knows that.

In the end, Pronman is entitled to his opinion. Like most people, there are times where he is correct and times where he is incorrect. But I'm not someone who follows him and thinks he's one of the better people attempting to do what he can do. I think there's better out there. Much better.
 
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