Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 9.1.19)

[nyr2k2]

Thank you. I knew I was forgetting someone, just couldn't remember who. In that case, I'd run the following:

Panarin-Zibby-Kakko
Kreider-Chytil-Buch
Strome/Kravtsov-Andersson-Strome/Kravtsov
Lemieux-Vladdy-Fast
Howden

Strome/Kravtsov is because I can't remember if Kravtsov was better on his off-wing or not

Therein lies the problem, I think, which is that it's probably not a great idea to have potentially valuable future player like Howden (or Andersson) as the 13th forward. Those guys should be playing, at least in Hartford if not in the NHL.

 

[UnSandvich]

Therein lies the problem, I think, which is that it's probably not a great idea to have potentially valuable future player like Howden (or Andersson) as the 13th forward. Those guys should be playing, at least in Hartford if not in the NHL.

Fine with sending Howden down and keeping Boo as 13F too. I'm just very much not a fan of Howden, and I think a lot of people overrate him heavily

 

[nyr2k2]

Fine with sending Howden down and keeping Boo as 13F too. I'm just very much not a fan of Howden, and I think a lot of people overrate him heavily

He sucked most of last year. However, I think the team did him a disservice in allowing him to continue to flounder in the NHL rather than sending him down to maybe gain some confidence.

 

[Leetch3]

good news on nils

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Thank god, part of me was a little worried. It definitely looked odd like something gave out, definitely (and was) could have been nothing.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thank god, part of me was a little worried. It definitely looked odd like something gave out, definitely (and was) could have been nothing.

2 weeks ago the guy in the organization who arranged the interview earlier this year, told me the injury wasn't as bad as first thought and that he would be on the ice for pre-season. Looks like he was right

 

[nyr2k2]

Looks like Edstrom was the spare forward, and Ragnarsson was given the game off. They played EBHL team Graz.

 

[eco's bones]

Rangers were no 1. on HF when ranking prospect pools. Elite Prospects has been doing its own but doing the ranking from bottom to top. Carolina came in at 3 today and so there are two teams left now--the Kings and the Rangers--one of them will be the top ranked. We'll find out probably tomorrow. After that we'll see where Pronman puts us.

 

[RangerBoy]

Here is the complete list of the Eliteprospects rankings.

Prospect Pool Rankings

 

[eco's bones]

Here is the complete list of the Eliteprospects rankings.

Prospect Pool Rankings

I would think the Rangers are going to be No. 1. The Kings I think are deeper in forward depth but haven't got anyone like Kakko. Turcotte is a great prospect though but so is Kravtsov. I think the Rangers blow them away on defense and in goal.

 

[aufheben]

Sean Tierney added some more prospects tools to his site: Tableau Public

Haven't really read up 0n how the values are weighed, mostly just fun to look at. Plus it has Kravtsov ranked higher than Hughes, so who am I to argue? lol

Rangers were no 1. on HF when ranking prospect pools. Elite Prospects has been doing its own but doing the ranking from bottom to top. Carolina came in at 3 today and so there are two teams left now--the Kings and the Rangers--one of them will be the top ranked. We'll find out probably tomorrow. After that we'll see where Pronman puts us.

Either way, thank GOD we won #2OA instead of them. That was probably the most revenge we'll ever have for 2014 other than straight winning a rematch.

 

[eco's bones]

Kings got No. 2 at Elite Prospects prospect pool rankings today. That leaves only one team left to claim the #1 top ranking and that's the...............New York Rangers.

So we're the top team in the HF poll and the top team at Elite Prospects.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Wow, it's a nice prospect pool.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Wow, it's a nice prospect pool.

They need to play that video every time he scores at the Garden.

 

[Irishguy42]

They need to play that video every time he scores at the Garden.

Play it on loop the entire time during his jersey retirement ceremony.

Also play it 24/7 on the billboard screen outside MSG.

 

[Lua]

Apologies if this has been asked or it's common knowledge, but will TC be televised or streamed anywhere this year?

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Play it on loop the entire time during his jersey retirement ceremony.

Also play it 24/7 on the billboard screen outside MSG.

I appreciate the team maybe thought they were protecting their boy from being made fun of but bad read. Beauty clip.

Too bad this f***ers not a center.

 

[Joey Bones]

Kings got No. 2 at Elite Prospects prospect pool rankings today. That leaves only one team left to claim the #1 top ranking and that's the...............New York Rangers.

So we're the top team in the HF poll and the top team at Elite Prospects.

And the top at NHL Network!! What a time to be alive!!

 

[Joey Bones]

Apologies if this has been asked or it's common knowledge, but will TC be televised or streamed anywhere this year?

Unsure at the moment, but I would think MSG would be stupid not to this season....

 

[Irishguy42]

Apologies if this has been asked or it's common knowledge, but will TC be televised or streamed anywhere this year?

Usually hasn't been televised, but the Rangers and Red Wings have put streams on their websites the last few years.

 

[eco's bones]

Unsure at the moment, but I would think MSG would be stupid not to this season....

Would be nice of the Rangers to do this for their fans. First chance to see Kravtsov, Fox and Shestyorkin in Rangers uniforms and then Kakko--the highest ever drafted Ranger since expansion. That's a real big deal.

The one thing I wonder about if it's a problem with the Red Wings because they pretty much organize and run this event.

 

[nyr2k2]

IIRC the setup and infrastructure of the arena make it difficult to stream or broadcast. When it was shown previously I don't recall it being particularly fun to view.

 

[cwede]

Apologies if this has been asked or it's common knowledge, but will TC be televised or streamed anywhere this year?

Yeah fans think they want it,
but the teams and league arent particularly invented or interested to,
and, as stated above, its a weak experience, no announcers, one center ice camera.

To call it a tournament is to flatter it. It's a series of 4 officiated scrimmages. Value is for coaches to preview players, and to have the kids closer to game ready for camp.

I appreciate Joey B here at HFB, but "MSG would be stupid not to" reflects only fan thinking, it's disconnected from what TC is and why they run it ...

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Yeah fans think they want it,
but the teams and league arent particularly invented or interested to,
and, as stated above, its a weak experience, no announcers, one center ice camera.

To call it a tournament is to flatter it. It's a series of 4 officiated scrimmages. Value is for coaches to preview players, and to have the kids closer to game ready for camp.

I appreciate Joey B here at HFB, but "MSG would be stupid not to" reflects only fan thinking, it's disconnected from what TC is and why they run it ...

It’s very much the first part of this post, and very much not the second part.

TC is completely underestimated as a tournament every year on here, likely because the Rangers have underperformed severely the last ~5 years (and our weak youth injection on the big team supports this). It is, in fact, a very competitive tournament with a ton of skill, and a bunch of kids fighting to make a good impression right before camp. We’ve seen many very skilled players come into TC and look out of place.

The production (arena, media, etc) isn’t strong, but the level of play certainly is. Let’s not make this out to be the Rangers prospect camp.

 

[nyr2k2]

It’s very much the first part of this post, and very much not the second part.

TC is completely underestimated as a tournament every year on here, likely because the Rangers have underperformed severely the last ~5 years (and our weak youth injection on the big team supports this). It is, in fact, a very competitive tournament with a ton of skill, and a bunch of kids fighting to make a good impression right before camp. We’ve seen many very skilled players come into TC and look out of place.

The production (arena, media, etc) isn’t strong, but the level of play certainly is. Let’s not make this out to be the Rangers prospect camp.

I feel the opposite and argue about it every year.

It does have importance. It's the first time the team has seen these guys since PDC. It helps to make a positive impression as these guys are receiving preliminary evaluations heading into camp. Obviously you want to get off to a positive start. If you were told in PDC to work on something, you want to show you did that. You don't want to come in out of shape. Etc.

The games are much like any short tournament--sloppy and lacking in general team chemistry, as most guys haven't played together before. There are a bunch of invites that probably won't play pro hockey. There are a bunch of guys that are ECHL/AHL tweeners. Then there are your real prospects. The play is uneven as the quality is uneven.

Again though, players obviously want to show well and it may give them a leg up going into camp, or conversely, put them in a tough position going into camp.

But that's just it--camp. Camp and the preseason schedule are where guys really establish their place. In camp and preseason, you're getting reps mainly against other actual NHL players, fringe players, and good prospects. There are some chuds in there, but generally the level of competition is so much higher than Traverse. Like, if you're having a great camp and preseason, that will determine your assignment and your role, even if you had a bad Traverse. And on the flip side, no one will care if you had a great Traverse if you're having a bad camp and can't even work your way into a preseason game.

So I do think Traverse is important, to a degree, but I think it's over-emphasized rather than under-emphasized. People react to player performances in Traverse like they are the single defining factor for the player's upcoming assignment, when really, it's the stuff that comes after that's most important there.