Rempe73
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Maybe, but I know I’m not the only one that feels that way. And you’re moving the goalposts right now.
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Rempe73
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I’m giving up on him? Don’t know where you got that from. What reply?
And I’m not saying he’s the worst player we ever drafted. Not even close. He might turn out to be a good player. But for the 1,000th time, that wasn’t the point I was making.
Rempe73
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Is it really hyperbole to say that the reasoning for drafting a late-ranked goalie early in the 2nd round with plenty of projected 1st rounders left was some of the worst I’ve ever seen?
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The fact Rangers took him so early makes me thing there is something there they love. No reason he can't be a quality NHL starter.
darko
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He wasn't late ranked. I mean he wasn't the next best ranked goalie but he was up there.
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Calling an 18 year old one of the worst picks is giving up on him. Let's see what we have first before labelling him one of the worst picks ever.
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And he had a really good season. He was even called up to the men's team (SHL) for 3 weeks and now earned a pro contract with Mora. That's huge for a teenage goalie. In no way is he one of the worst draft picks in Rangers history.
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Yes, it really is hyperbole.
The Rangers have made a lot of picks under whatever criteria you are using.
He was lower ranked than where they took him? They have done it before with lesser ranked players.
He was a goalie when they have other highly touted prospects at that position? They’ve done that before at other positions.
They had bigger needs that they ignored? Done it before!
The bottom line is they aren’t making the decision for the same reasons you are. Maybe they see something you don’t, as I’m sure you did not extensively scout Lindbom, and took a knowing risk with the pick, even though they may have been able to get him later.
A second round pick in the NHL draft isn’t a second round pick in the NFL draft where you are still mostly expecting to get a high end starter. In the NHL draft, by the late first round, it’s pretty much a crapshoot to even get a bottom tier player who plays 200 games in the league.
Gambling on a goalie at that stage may not be the beat idea, given who is there, but it’s not the “worst pick ever.”
Rempe73
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Not saying that. For all we know, he could be good. Not my point. I’m not going to keep repeating myself.
Rempe73
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Rempe73
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Yea that’s a decent point. I could see that. But to me it didn’t make sense at all.
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Don't get me wrong... the pick didn't make a lot of sense to most of us.
I don't think anyone is saying it's a great pick. But let's just tap the breaks, it's not the worst pick ever, or even one of the worst ever.
Rempe73
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This really wasn’t one of the most senseless picks at the time to you? Honestly?
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Rempe73
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You don’t know me. I have changed my mind plenty of times when it comes to prospects and hockey stuff in general. For example, I stopped liking Pionk towards the end of the season after defending him for a long time. I also started liking Chytil more as a prospect as time went on.
I’m open-minded, but I don’t see how anyone could think the Lindbom pick was not a complete blunder at the time. Not everyone will think it’s one of the worst choices ever, but at least give me that. When we drafted him, everyone seemed to feel the same way. And hey, I like Lindbom and I think he could make the pick at least somewhat justified. But for the millionth time, that’s not my point. Yet you still don’t seem to understand that. You’re being closed-minded here and misrepresenting my point.
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If everyone is disagreeing with you on this, maybe it's a sign. That's why you remind me of that scene. It has nothing to do with knowing you.
Nobody says it was a good pick. It was questionable pick at best. But to state it's "one of the worst ever" is just not true, no matter how you look at it. That's what people are saying.
Rempe73
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On draft day, everyone was on the same page. But that doesn’t matter. The mob has been very wrong before. Another pointless argument. I think a lot of the disagreement comes with people thinking I’m calling Lindbom one of the worst prospects we’ve ever drafted. Of course I’m not doing that. That would be really stupid.
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Everyone was on the same page that it was a bad pick. Nobody said it was one of the worst picks ever. You are the only one. You literally said that, and no one else.
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Rempe73
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I’m not old enough (or wasn’t as interested in the drafting process) to remember any draft before 2015 or so. And the only way I can judge the initial reaction to picks before that timeframe is on here. And what people said about their reaction to all kinds of older picks like McIlrath, Montoya, Jessiman, etc.
So based off my somewhat limited knowledge, is it crazy for me to say that Lindbom was one of the worst picks ever made at the time? Maybe. Maybe not. All I know is I’ve never been so confused at a pick in the past few years. Maybe the FO had a good reason to pick him (they had to), but from our standpoint it looked bad.
I’m still relatively new to hfboards and talking hockey online, so I’m not going to act like I know everything, and I’m willing to change my mind. Or agree to disagree.
Edit: Yes I know I’m the only one that said it was one of the worst picks ever, but that’s kind of what the atmosphere was like on here. Or at least very similar.
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Amazing Kreiderman
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You good, man. Your opinions and analyses are generally spot on, or at least reasonable.
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Again, just claim hyperbole and move on.
Bad pick is certainly arguable, though in time it may even come to be seen as a good pick.
Confusing pick? Without question.
Pick that didn't seem to make a ton of sense on it's face given Lindbom's rating, other players available, and the needs of the organization? Again, certainly arguable.
And yes a substantial portion of this board flipped their lids, because that's what social media and message boards do at any slight provocation. But in hindsight, it's clearly not one of the worst picks ever. Saying that is..... wait for it..... hyperbole.
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Maybe just be more careful about choosing words and not using absolutes. You wouldn’t need to explain yourself if you simply said it was a questionable pick instead of “one of the worst”.
