Post-Game Talk: RANGERS @ islanders

[Whoot Whoot]

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[RGY]

I think he gets too much shit. He's stupid sometimes but so is the whole team at times. Whats wrong with being a 40-45 point player who plays center? I'm all ears for a better option. I'm well aware he has benefited from playing with Panarin. Fast has been on that same line all year and how many point does he have? The guy does have some talent. He stepped up and played well when Mika went down for those 13 games too.

I will admit I was quick to boot Strome out of NY in the GDT...but thats because im sick of his sheer stupidity on the ice. He is costing the team points in a noticeable direct manner.

If they want to extend him fine. I dont think he will be here in 3 years. I think he is someone who is replaceable and not all that impressive. And again, the stupidity.

Also blame DQ for watching him take that terrible penalty and then putting him out there for the most important minute of the game in which he cant clear the puck.

 

[Levitate]

some ugly winds lately. Need to get back to controlling more of the play

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Another January Parade down Hempstead Turnpike spoiled by the Islanders having to play the rest of the season schedule.

What a laughable team and fan base. But to be fair, when you suck for so long, you simply do not know how to win. Dont know how to handle it when it come, stay the course and know its a long season because youve been there before. Islanders cant say that.

Whats funny is Rangers have more high end talent and have a much better prospect pool after a 2 year rebuild. The Piles have been rebuilding for 2 decades.

 

[mike14]

Give me a damn break. This guy is a career 40 point player away from Panarin. You drinking that koolaid and letting the Panarin work fool you into thinking Strome is a winning player. He is not. He showed it yet again tonight with his terrible decisions all over the ice. Shooting and missing nets cleanly. Another dumb penalty. Trade him in the offseason. Sell high on his stats from playing with Panarin. Get someone else in here or promote the youth or both.

Strome seems to be what he is, a useful complimentary player that fits well on our "2nd" line.

If we ignore Strome's production with Panarin, does that mean we have to do the same with Kreider's production this year due to Mika's season? Because it seems to me that a lot of what you wrote about Strome could be applied to CK over the course of his career...

 

[ohbaby]

Yeah it's a good thing that they didnt give up 21 HD chances in any of those 10 other wins.

I don't complain about our D every game. Look it up, I've been pretty vocal about how our D has improved along with every other aspect of the game over the last 2.5 months.

Staal draws a ton of my ire, but thats because he's f*cking horrible. Staal isn't the whole D.

Point is,... this whole turn around is due to our defense. Tonight's first period was a classic example. If this was earlier in the season, we would have been down by 5 after 20 minutes. But now, we know how to protect the middle, and you saw that in spectacular fashion in the first. Isles kept us in our zone for big stretches in the first, and came away with nothing. So you keep touting numbers, while the rest of us see what is really happening.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

I think he gets too much shit. He's stupid sometimes but so is the whole team at times. Whats wrong with being a 40-45 point player who plays center? I'm all ears for a better option. I'm well aware he has benefited from playing with Panarin. Fast has been on that same line all year and how many point does he have? The guy does have some talent. He stepped up and played well when Mika went down for those 13 games too.

Strome gets way too much hate. All he's done is produce since he became a Ranger and long before being paired with Panarin.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

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Goring needs to be taken to a home.

 

[Uncle Dru]

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Brendan Burke does a good job...Butch Goring needs to find a new hobby

 

[ohbaby]

I just love how tight this group is.

And to keep it together through the trade deadline was just fantastic. Kudos to JD and Gorton.

 

[aufheben]

some ugly winds lately. Need to get back to controlling more of the play

We absolutely deserved to lose this game. The team plays better in front of Igor.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Strome gets way too much hate. All he's done is produce since he became a Ranger and long before being paired with Panarin.

some of it is deserved - he lost us a game a few weeks ago by being lazy for a line change and tonight he had an opportunity to clear the puck before NYI goal 3 but literally wouldn't skate to get it.

he has produced for sure though

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Goring needs to be taken to a home.

He's the absolute worst. A disgraceful homer. He talks about the winning goal being a lucky bounce? What about the first Islander goal? What was that? He whines about the refs constantly. He said Trouba should get a 5 game suspension, blah blah blah. He's like a drunken fan sitting on his couch yelling at the TV. Total joke.

 

[gravey9]

Strome gets way too much hate. All he's done is produce since he became a Ranger and long before being paired with Panarin.

With Skjei gone, Strome IS already the new whipping boy.

Not because he deserves it, but because a) there's always a whipping boy (which is so stupid IMHO) and b) because every game he makes 1-2 seriously boneheaded plays.

Luckily he also makes a few noticeable good plays as well.

If he could just clean up his brain farts and focus on becoming a rock, he'd be a legit 2c in the league. But it's those bone-headed plays that will eventually turn him into a journeyman middle-sixer. I see a very Derrick Brassard future for Ryan Strome in his post-Rangers career. But for now, he's our best option for Panarin's center. And he's also one of our better PK options as well.

On a side note, a really big positive of the Skjei trade is it'll be much easier to post on this board as I will no longer need to stress out about the bizarre spelling of his name.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

With Skjei gone, Strome IS already the new whipping boy.

Not because he deserves it, but because a) there's always a whipping boy (which is so stupid IMHO) and b) because every game he makes 1-2 seriously boneheaded plays.

Luckily he also makes a few noticeable good plays as well.

If he could just clean up his brain farts and focus on becoming a rock, he'd be a legit 2c in the league. But it's those bone-headed plays that will eventually turn him into a journeyman middle-sixer. I see a very Derrick Brassard future for Ryan Strome in his post-Rangers career. But for now, he's our best option for Panarin's center. And he's also one of our better PK options as well.

On a side note, a really big positive of the Skjei trade is it'll be much easier to post on this board as I will no longer need to stress out about the bizarre spelling of his name.

he's lazy in the way Jesper Fast and Ryan Lindgren aren't

 

[ohbaby]

Yeah a month ago I was hoping we'd be in this position where we would be playing meaningful hockey games in March as it would be phenomenal experience for the kiddies.

Now tho that we are incredibly right in the thick of the playoff race something I'll be honest, I never in my wildest dreams thought was possible this year, the next 20 games we play will not only be huge games every single one of them, it will help the team to come more together and at the same time it will be even more awesome for the development of our young team as it will make them more seasoned so that next year and the years following, they'll know what they are in for and that is immeasurable for their development and for the teams success going forward.

I tell ya and I've said this a ton of times and it bears repeating...if anyone would have told me two years ago when that letter was sent out by Gorton to the fanbase that we were about to embark on full blown rebuild and we were pretty much starting from scratch that the rebuild would have gone this well and this fast, I would have asked what kind of weed you on cause I want some of it...lol.

Just phenomenal the trajectory of this team and where we are at. I said this a few times as well but I'll say it again...f*ck it. Just imagine how good we are going to be when we actually are good? The league better watch out...that's for damn sure.

Great post. Only one thought though. This summer when we got Panarin, Trouba, Fox and Kakko,... it was still never in your wildest dreams? I don't know about you, but I was dreaming a hell of a dream.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

We absolutely deserved to lose this game. The team plays better in front of Igor.

Didn't play well in front of him the other day against an AHL-quality Sharks team. Played great against Carolina but followed up by two stinkers. Still got the wins but need to tighten up big time.

 

[Uncle Dru]

He's the absolute worst. A disgraceful homer. He talks about the winning goal being a lucky bounce? What about the first Islander goal? What was that? He whines about the refs constantly. He said Trouba should get a 5 game suspension, blah blah blah. He's like a drunken fan sitting on his couch yelling at the TV. Total joke.

Put some of the worst posters HF has to offer in the booth and you probably do better than Butch Goring.

 

[Maximus]

Great post. Only one thought though. This summer when got Panarin, Trouba, Fox and Kakko,... it was still never in your wildest dreams? I don't know about you, but I was dreaming a hell of a dream.

If I'm being totally honest, even with the additions of those 4 players you mention, I still didn't think we'd be in the playoff mix this year. I did think those additions accelerated quite a bit the trajectory of the rebuild and that maybe it wasn't going to take 2-3 years as I orginally thought but instead 1-2 years before we were ready to compete for a playoff spot.

I was thinking that an over .500 record this year with us maybe and I do say maybe hanging around the periphery of the playoff bubble teams would be a massive success for such a young team that we had and if we could possibly play some important games in February/March would be more than any of us could possibly have hoped for.

Well it looks like myself and quite a few of us might have underestimated how good the talent level of this team really was and that's mainly because I know for me, even tho I knew how great a player Panarin was, I never knew he was THIS GOOD. He pretty much has single handily made every player better than he ever was or thought he could be. It's been a trickle down effect throughout the lineup and so that's where I think the disconnect was and why we are much better than where I at least thought we'd be at this point in time.

It should be noted as well I also didn't expect our goaltending to be so good either and that has also been a huge factor as to why we are sniffing a playing spot as well as Shesty has been unreal and Georgie has been pretty damn good himself while Hank has also had his moments.

So yeah, the rebuild has been a massive success thus far and we about a year ahead of where I thought we'd be. Next year the expectations for the team go way up and tho that might be a bit of a mistake considering how young we still are, most us will likely think we should be a playoff team at the very least.

What's going on now is simply terrific and I give huge kudos to Gorton for orchestrating simply a masterful rebuild as he has proven why he is one of the top GM's in the league as we are lucky to have him.

 

[ohbaby]

Needless to say I cannot stand Ryan Strome. A very replaceable piece.

He's practically a point per game player. This is laughable.

 

[Maximus]

Posted the same thing like 20 games ago... I just pick Panarin then go from there.

Well brilliant minds think alike than apparently...lol

In all seriousness, I actually thought about this topic and I really can't think of more than 2-3 times I didn't vote for Breadman as one of the top 3 stars of any game we've played this year win or lose.

I've never in my 45 or so years as a Ranger fan ever seen a more dominant player night in night out than Panarin has been for us this year and that includes Jagr and Messier as those two did take occasional nights off...not Panarin tho.

 

[Boris Zubov]

There are times when hockey teams get rolling and significantly outperform their capabilities

The 1967 Toronto Maple Leafs
The 1973 WHA Ottawa Nationals (kiddos, go look up the Corn Cob miracle.
The 1986 New Jersey Devils
The 1996 Florida Panthers

We may be watching an occurrence similar to these

I have to assume you meant the '88 Devils. I still want to kick John McLean in the balls for scoring that OT winner vs the Hawks on the final day of the season. If the Devils just tie that game, it could've been the Rangers who had that deep playoff run. They were playing really well the final few months of that season...the Power Play was lethal & they had some 20 year old rookie fresh off the Olympics playing like a seasoned pro on Defense. That was a roller coaster ride of a hockey season that ended with such a thud....I remember it like it was yesterday.

Lol you're right on Redmond, but honestly I love him, seems like a great dude.

Kings color guy is annoying, dude has this awful inflection

That's Jim Fox, & he's really really bland & a pretty bad homer. Watching Rangers hockey on the west coast before the advent of the stream was pretty rough in the not so distant past. The NHL as whole doesn't have too many solid broadcast teams. PBP guys tend to be ok(besides Edwards), but the color guys are clearly the weak link.

 

[nyrage]

I will admit I was quick to boot Strome out of NY in the GDT...but thats because im sick of his sheer stupidity on the ice. He is costing the team points in a noticeable direct manner.

If they want to extend him fine. I dont think he will be here in 3 years. I think he is someone who is replaceable and not all that impressive. And again, the stupidity.

Also blame DQ for watching him take that terrible penalty and then putting him out there for the most important minute of the game in which he cant clear the puck.

I don't have a problem with him offensively. He chipped in fine even before getting any boost from Panarin, but he bothers me defensively. He either stands around or glides when it comes to chasing pucks imo often resulting in bad penalties (and at bad moments).

I think that he's out there on the pk or late in the game because sadly we don't have better options at this point other than the usual characters like Mika and Fast. As we continue to build this team, I hope that we can add a defensive specialist that can also be above 50% on face-offs.

 

[BelovedIsles]

NYR were dominated tonight, lucky and opportunistic. The Lee non-call was a mistake. Deservedly so, they blew a 3-1 lead in 5 mins.

 

[bobbop]

I have to assume you meant the '88 Devils. I still want to kick John McLean in the balls for scoring that OT winner vs the Hawks on the final day of the season. If the Devils just tie that game, it could've been the Rangers who had that deep playoff run. They were playing really well the final few months of that season...the Power Play was lethal & they had some 20 year old rookie fresh off the Olympics playing like a seasoned pro on Defense. That was a roller coaster ride of a hockey season that ended with such a thud....I remember it like it was yesterday.



That's Jim Fox, & he's really really bland & a pretty bad homer. Watching hockey on the west coast before the advent of the stream was pretty rough in the not so distant past. The NHL as whole doesn't have too many solid broadcast teams. PBP guys tend to be ok(besides Edwards), but the color guys are clearly the weak link.

You are correct sir! I was thinking of Sean Burke...what a run he went on.