Proposal: Rangers - Habs
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WhoTagz
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Easy no, are you kidding?
Chiarot does nothing for the Rangers
laf is playing well now given the mins
no need for lehkonen we need C
Chiarot does nothing for the Rangers
laf is playing well now given the mins
no need for lehkonen we need C
Benstheman
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Just red that NYR might be interested in Toffoli. Don’t know if there is leg to it. Does it even make sense NYR fans?
GIN ANTONIC
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What am I looking here? This is absolutely putrid for NYR? You could maaaaybe get Laf and the Rangers 1st for Habs on protected 1st this year and that’s a maybe. The rest is pure nonsense.
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This is basically NYR trying to get a big reset on their first overall - Laf. I don't think the organization does this. I'm ok with giving up Kravtsov if he's completely done with this organization but we don't need Harris or Lehkonen, and can't pay Chiarot going forward. There's some question marks on the players going into this draft, so I don't know if giving up all that for a chance at a reset makes sense.
From the other side, it seems like that's a big risk to take going after Laf. Might as well keep your 1st round pick and sell off the other players.
From the other side, it seems like that's a big risk to take going after Laf. Might as well keep your 1st round pick and sell off the other players.
Habs Halifax
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It's kind of comical though. Getting hit from two sides. Some Habs fans are an automatic no as well. Figured it would not go well with other fans but it's in an opposite way.
Personally, I think Lafreniere is worth anybody the Habs can draft in the top 5. Might give the Rangers a shot at drafting a true center and also getting improvements for a playoff run?
Habs Halifax
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Fair but lets not pretend I'm offering junk. That 2022 unprotected 1st gives the Rangers a shot at drafting a true center? Wright perhaps?
sure if we are doing this for fun it’s fair but rangers can’t do it without knowing the Pick
Habs Halifax
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very unbalanced in Habs favor
basically 3 1sts (1OA, 9OA), '22) and a 2nd for a very good pick and some filler
as discussed often, Harris offers NYR nothing, they have B+ LHD prospects, Guhle would tempt more
Lehkonen is a nice but replaceable player too, send Mysak+Tuch instead
but NYR really probably not moving Laf
basically 3 1sts (1OA, 9OA), '22) and a 2nd for a very good pick and some filler
as discussed often, Harris offers NYR nothing, they have B+ LHD prospects, Guhle would tempt more
Lehkonen is a nice but replaceable player too, send Mysak+Tuch instead
but NYR really probably not moving Laf
BLNY
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A struggling 1OA, a first, a second, and Kravstov for the lure of Wright, a middle six defender, a bottom six winger, and the rights to Harris?
C'mon man.
If I’m the rangers, very easy no. Value very clearly favors the Habs.
Unless you change Chairot to Guhle and remove the 2023 2nd.
General Fanager
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Counter offer to give Rangers some depth scoring for the playoff:
Brendan Gallagher (33% retained) so 4.29M$ cap hit.
Montreal 2022 2nd round pick
Vitali Kravtsov
Brendan Gallagher (33% retained) so 4.29M$ cap hit.
Montreal 2022 2nd round pick
Vitali Kravtsov
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Counter offer to give Rangers some depth scoring for the playoff:
Brendan Gallagher (33% retained) so 4.29M$ cap hit.
Montreal 2022 2nd round pick
Vitali Kravtsov
NYR can't take back 5 more years of even that cap Hit,
they have Zib and Fox extensions starting on top of Bread, Trouba, Kreider, Shesty,
then RFAs to sign and
the top 2 C spot to maintain, whether Strome extension or someone else
I could see a deal w Habs for Gorton to grab guys he believes in
But i don't see NYR bringing back a vet w term
Mandalorian
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What about Gallagher at 50%? Rangers can't take on 3.25M$ cap hit for some depth scoring and two way play from one of the best 5v5 player of the couple past seasons?
Worse case you flip him again around 2023-2024 if you see he doesn't move the needle for a Cup run. At that cap hit, he will be easy to retrade.
Captain Mountain
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Counter offer to give Rangers some depth scoring for the playoff:
Brendan Gallagher (33% retained) so 4.29M$ cap hit.
Montreal 2022 2nd round pick
Vitali Kravtsov
Why the **** would Montreal do that?
Mandalorian
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Because they don't need Gallagher during their rebuild since they aren't gonna compete any time soon, and they free some cap space and get a solid prospect who can become a 2nd liner in the futur and has a lot of potential?
What do you expect Montreal to get for Gallagher, Trevor Zegras or something?
Keep thinking we are going to get 2-3 first round pick and a couple of graded A prospect for Chiarot and Allen tho, much more realistic.
Anyway, it seems like it's not even enough for a Rangers fan that already replied.
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I am not deep cap guy,
but NYR also have Goodrow for about that term and Hit, and Lindgren too
as i wrote, i just don't see NYR bringing back a vet w term,
especially if not a C, or a rare young-ish available almost-star opportunity like Chychrun
for better or worse, they already have a lot of Cap commitment for many years
and all the 1st-rounders since '17 to extend
and a deep pipeline on Wing
not saying he couldn't help,
just that its not a fit due to Cap, hockey priorities, and pipeline
Mandalorian
Screw the tank, just WIN BABY!
I understand but Rangers are currently 1st in the NHL but 14th in goal scoring, I think they need to add some depth on their 2nd line, when they miss a big piece Kakko goes on their first line..
I know Gallagher has a bad year but the whole team has honestly, he has been a consistent 25-30 goal scorer since 2017. He could provides something they don't have a lot(depth scoring, two-way play) that could help them for the cup, like Coleman or Goodrow did for the Lighting.
3.25M$ cap hit would fit for their window. I think he would be a great add if they want to go deep in the playoff, has Stanley cup final experience from last year.
Anyway I think Rangers would think about it if Montreal was ready to retain heavily on Gallagher.
Captain Mountain
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Fine, but Kravstov is in Russia and not a player the Habs need. Gallagher being snakebitten aside, he's still a useful veteran and the kind of guy you want to rub off on young players in a rebuild. Paying Gallagher, a 2nd and eating 2.1 mil for 6 seasons for Kravstov makes zero sense for Montreal. If the Habs need futures, they have veterans with actual reported trade value.
Pass . The Habs have two glaring needs , a center better than Suzuki and an all round puck moving defenceman , there's a very good chance that our first this year fills one of those needs , Lafreniere or Kravtsov fill neither .
Mandalorian
Screw the tank, just WIN BABY!
Like who? Carey Price and his 10.5M$ contract? Chiarot who is gonna fetch if we are lucky a late first? Petry and his 0 goals in his last 50 NHL games?
Or maybe you think Drouin or Armia can fetch interesting pieces?
The true leader of this room were Price, Weber and Perry. Now you have good leaders like Edmunson and Anderson. There is a reason Gallagher isn't captain even after all those years being in Montreal.
How can you say he is not a player the Habs need? Who the habs have that has top 6 potential and is 6'3 near 200 pounds in their prospect pool? He could become a skilled big body 20 goals 50 points player which we haven't had in a long time..
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