Confirmed with Link: Rangers claim Arthur Kaliyev from LA

[JohnC]

Wasn’t he the prospect who fell in the draft because teams weren’t sure if his age was what he said it was?

 

[rangers1314]

He's the type of guy who will shoot from EVERYWHERE.

The last guy we had with that mindset was Frank V.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If they are smart he takes the right half wall on the top PP unit and just hammers pucks from Panarin and Fox.

It took them almost half the season to do anything with the top unit.

They aren't tossing a waiver claim on it.

 

[rangers1314]

I think he’s wanted out of LA for a while. He’ll get a clean crack here hopefully. No risk. We’ll see

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Good get, no lose situation. Now, do we put him with Panarin or Zib?

My thought
Laf Zib Smith
Panarin Trochek Kaliyev

 

[Mr Mxmzptlk]

He's the type of guy who will shoot from EVERYWHERE.

I'm sold.

 

[huerter]

The team will work on making him a passer.

Connor Bedard shot more pucks than anyone ever has at his age just so he could feed an easy backdoor tap in while he had a clear chance to shoot.

 

[DanielBrassard]

It took them almost half the season to do anything with the top unit.

They aren't tossing a waiver claim on it.

We will see, there were no PPs last game so we didn’t have an opportunity to see what the Pp would look like without Kreider. I assume you’re right though.

 

[Unpredictable1]

He's the type of guy who will shoot from EVERYWHERE.

The thing I noticed most going through some of his goal highlights, are how many goalies he beats cleanly from a ways out. That's promising.

Welcome aboard Arthur!

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Hey guys, coming in peace

Little background on Kaliyev

was hurt this year, was blackballed last year after asking for a trade. He was good-to-excellent in his role, but in typical Kings fashion was dicked around in favor of vets (Kings had to justify their poor investments on PLD and Fiala), and his confidence took a dump, and I'm sure you guys have an idea of what happens to scorers when they're moody/lacking confidence. One of his last shifts with the Kings he fired a one timer wide and promptly broke his stick in frustration. Dude just needs someone to believe and McLellan and Blake were both publicly f***ing assholes to him.

In short--enigmatic/moody/medium-maintenance. Needs to be deployed with responsible-ish players who can carry the puck because you don't want him lugging it anywhere. But better on the boards and great in cycle, one of the only Kings in recent history who can snipe even elite goalies from anywhere, and when he's feeling it he's an absolute weapon on the PP.

I had posted this on our forum the day of:

On a team full of two-way players, you can afford to use a Kaliyev on a line as such, where they were utterly dominant:

You see his numbers turn to shit when he was put with losers like PLD and when buried on the 4th line with 5 minutes per game and one shift per period

But in an effort to get their money's worth on several poor investments, they buried Kaliyev to forcefeed Fiala and PLD, and it's been all downhill since.

And funny enough, their numbers were better with Kaliyev than when force fed Fiala:

Maybe you don't want a sensitive player/personality to manage, or one you can't plug and play (especially if you're f***ing lazy like Koala), but the results were absolutely there when used correctly. Also don't forget around the same time he was in the top 10 in the league in power play productivity rate so it wasn't just 5v5 with Danault/Moore. When he was getting minutes, he was a factor. When he was buried, he wasn't. It's that simple--and sure we can make other observations about his pouting and 'drive' and whatever but the facts are the facts. Just another situation where they made a decision based on poorly-chosen vets over youth in order to justify a dogshit investment return.



I'm big on his upside as you can probably tell. At worst it's a fresh start and a free shot at a project. With some of the offensive talent you have on the PP especially, him being an option rather than THE option is going to open up some opportunities. Wishing him and you well.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Oh wow. A pure shooter. Something the Rangers havent had much of since Vatrano.

Why not. Nice pickup

The kid has talent. Played in the WJC for USA (dont let the name fool you) in 19-20 and 20-21 with Zegras, K Miller, Zac Jones, Caufield. He was a big part of that team and scored some big goals.

Worth a shot to see if he can find it back in NY area where he started out

 

[Profet]

Ok now... play him on the PP... get him some points. And then flip him in the offseason.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Doesn’t Kaliyev have skating issues, at least that was the case during his draft year? Worth a shot since he is still young

Ill be mad if they send Berard down for Kaliyev

Worth a shot
Waiving Brodzinski ?

Nope, Rangers will do the dumb thing and send down Berard. They wont want to risk losing an AHL player.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Maybe Kreider is going to be out a while.

Same thought.

 

[NickyFotiu]

The thing I noticed most going through some of his goal highlights, are how many goalies he beats cleanly from a ways out. That's promising.

Welcome aboard Arthur!

3 things we lack.

1. Speed
2. Physicality
3. Big Heavy Shots

Hopefully he brings some of that. I want to know how he skates.

 

[Profet]

Nope, Rangers will do the dumb thing and send down Berard. They wont want to risk losing an AHL player.

Maybe they'll LTIR Kreider.

 

[LOFIN]

There's your answer to who's going down

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Maybe they'll LTIR Kreider.

Rempe was sent down, kreider out so room for him

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Doesn’t Kaliyev have skating issues, at least that was the case during his draft year? Worth a shot since he is still young

3 things we lack.

1. Speed
2. Physicality
3. Big Heavy Shots

Hopefully he brings some of that. I want to know how he skates.

He is a battleship. In a straight line, slow first step but acceptable top speed. But pretty agile and good off the wall, only needs a step or two to release a nasty shot or pass. Just not explosive skater in any manner.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Hey guys, coming in peace

Little background on Kaliyev

was hurt this year, was blackballed last year after asking for a trade. He was good-to-excellent in his role, but in typical Kings fashion was dicked around in favor of vets (Kings had to justify their poor investments on PLD and Fiala), and his confidence took a dump, and I'm sure you guys have an idea of what happens to scorers when they're moody/lacking confidence. One of his last shifts with the Kings he fired a one timer wide and promptly broke his stick in frustration. Dude just needs someone to believe and McLellan and Blake were both publicly f***ing assholes to him.

In short--enigmatic/moody/medium-maintenance. Needs to be deployed with responsible-ish players who can carry the puck because you don't want him lugging it anywhere. But better on the boards and great in cycle, one of the only Kings in recent history who can snipe even elite goalies from anywhere, and when he's feeling it he's an absolute weapon on the PP.

I had posted this on our forum the day of:

On a team full of two-way players, you can afford to use a Kaliyev on a line as such, where they were utterly dominant:

You see his numbers turn to shit when he was put with losers like PLD and when buried on the 4th line with 5 minutes per game and one shift per period

But in an effort to get their money's worth on several poor investments, they buried Kaliyev to forcefeed Fiala and PLD, and it's been all downhill since.

And funny enough, their numbers were better with Kaliyev than when force fed Fiala:

Maybe you don't want a sensitive player/personality to manage, or one you can't plug and play (especially if you're f***ing lazy like Koala), but the results were absolutely there when used correctly. Also don't forget around the same time he was in the top 10 in the league in power play productivity rate so it wasn't just 5v5 with Danault/Moore. When he was getting minutes, he was a factor. When he was buried, he wasn't. It's that simple--and sure we can make other observations about his pouting and 'drive' and whatever but the facts are the facts. Just another situation where they made a decision based on poorly-chosen vets over youth in order to justify a dogshit investment return.



I'm big on his upside as you can probably tell. At worst it's a fresh start and a free shot at a project. With some of the offensive talent you have on the PP especially, him being an option rather than THE option is going to open up some opportunities. Wishing him and you well.

How is his one-timer? Do you think he’s able to play on his off-wing on the PP? With Panarin and Fox being right handed you would want someone on the right who can shoot off the pass. Or is he more of a catch and then shoot. The highlights seem to suggest he was mostly playing on his strong side on the PP.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

How is his one-timer? Do you think he’s able to play on his off-wing on the PP? With Panarin and Fox being right handed you would want someone on the right who can shoot off the pass. Or is he more of a catch and then shoot. The highlights seem to suggest he was mostly playing on his strong side on the PP.

When he's confident it's lethal; when he's not it's lethal but inaccurate. Absolutely can play offside, reportedly likes the offside better anyway...but Kings gonna King

 

[ibleedkings]

I’ve never seen a player more misused. Kings draft a player that’s a goal scorer and then get mad when he doesn’t perform on the 4th line as a grinder. Koala was absolutely a big reason in this as much as Rob Fake. Shit Gabe Vilardi was almost ruined by these idiots also.

 

[LOFIN]

I’ve never seen a player more misused. Kings draft a player that’s a goal scorer and then get mad when he doesn’t perform on the 4th line as a grinder. Koala was absolutely a big reason in this as much as Rob Fake. Shit Gabe Vilardi was almost ruined by these idiots also.

Sounds familiar, he'll fit right in with the way Rangers have used their prospects

 

[Fitzy]

It's the correct time to gamble on a zero-cost acquisition. He could play in Berard's spot on Chytil's line, or 'higher up' if we move Smith to that line.

If Kreider is going to miss any time at all, makes even more sense.

 

[DanielBrassard]

When he's confident it's lethal; when he's not it's lethal but inaccurate. Absolutely can play offside, reportedly likes the offside better anyway...but Kings gonna King

Thanks, appreciate the info. Seems like he would fit pretty well on a line with Chytil and Berard or Cuylle. Chytil is our best puck Transporter but can also play off the cycle, and Berard and Cuylle can be that puck retriever/physical presence with some decent skill opposite Kaliyev.