Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Rights to RW Barclay Goodrow; Signs Contract (6 Years, $3.642M AAV)
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And how do you know this?
Especially when all indications were that there were multiple teams ready to offer him this.
Hey I'm just happy and excited to have this kind of player in our lineup. Not a money guy hahhahah.... Just wanna watch a team that won't back down from anybody.
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You know I like Goodrow better than either Fast or Bennett. He forechecks as well as Fast and hits a lot harder. As for Bennett he hits hard too but not as much…..and the thing with getting Bennett is it would have cost us quite a bit more than a 7th rounder to acquire him. Bennett’s an RFA too and don’t be surprised if he gets a similar contract to Goodrow. He was making over $2.5 already. We got the better player.
We now also have two championship rings in our locker room which is a lot better than zero.
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Wade Redden got overpaid with a huge contract, Goodrow got overpaid for what he is, there is a difference and Goodrow's contract is moveable either through buyout or holding some cap. To be fair to this organization, imo right now only Trouba(because the cap flattened), Goodrow and maybe Kreider( he's actually not far off market value) are overpaid right now. I dont mind getting the guy you think can make a difference for a little extra, and if the cap balloons like it should we will forget about this quickly.
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Well, I wanted 2 of the 3. Bennett is the perfect player for the top6. Add the snarl and produce.
We still need one more of these players IMO
81.5 million salary cap. With a 23 man roster the average player is going to get 3.54 million if you are spending up to the cap. So as long as Goodrow is about an average player for us, the cap hit really isn't bad in the slightest. Once the cap starts going up again it will be even better. To bring in someone who obviously checks a couple boxes for us at essentially an average player's cap hit while only giving up a 7th rounder really isn't a problem by itself.
The extra couple years and the limited NTC are the bigger issues in my mind. How big of a problem will ultimately depends on how much the cap rises and obviously where Goodrow's game is a few years from now.
It does however mean that someone that we like (most likely Buch) isn't in the longer term plans. With the top heavy roster we are going to have salary wise, you either have to backfill with really cheap depth or you don't, which we arent with the likes of Goodrow, then you have to make tough decisions on who you aren't bringing back.
Ultimately, do you want Goodrow at his contract plus ____ (whatever assets you get for Buch) or Buch at ____ (whatever contract he is going to get?) Personally, I am going to hold off on an opinion until those blanks are filled out.
The extra couple years and the limited NTC are the bigger issues in my mind. How big of a problem will ultimately depends on how much the cap rises and obviously where Goodrow's game is a few years from now.
It does however mean that someone that we like (most likely Buch) isn't in the longer term plans. With the top heavy roster we are going to have salary wise, you either have to backfill with really cheap depth or you don't, which we arent with the likes of Goodrow, then you have to make tough decisions on who you aren't bringing back.
Ultimately, do you want Goodrow at his contract plus ____ (whatever assets you get for Buch) or Buch at ____ (whatever contract he is going to get?) Personally, I am going to hold off on an opinion until those blanks are filled out.
Cap hit aside I think Goodrow is going to be a big help
The last thing we can get a feel for is the value a defensive player provides to a completely different team.
We may THINK we can but then we see the guy on the ice and we generate zero offense. Suddenly we realize how much 3.6 really is for a defensive specialist.
I get the feeling people just really want to talk themselves into liking this when based on age and offensive production this will turn out to be absolute shit sooner than later
At this point the NHL is one giant FA shitshow where you just have to get lucky and stumble on the few guys who either take a leap in their game after they sign or they become one of the unicorns who plays great well into his 30s. More often than not, neither seems to happen, especially with this team.
Brian boyle had a 3 year 1.7 M contract from us and then a 3 year 2 M from TB.
That was up to 2016.
Salaries and the cap didn't change THAT much that suddenly a player like Boyle should be getting double the years AND double the AAV.
On a scale from terrible deal to great. I put this solidly in the "Not good" category bc we need to get super lucky for this to not suck hard for half the life of the deal.
We may THINK we can but then we see the guy on the ice and we generate zero offense. Suddenly we realize how much 3.6 really is for a defensive specialist.
I get the feeling people just really want to talk themselves into liking this when based on age and offensive production this will turn out to be absolute shit sooner than later
At this point the NHL is one giant FA shitshow where you just have to get lucky and stumble on the few guys who either take a leap in their game after they sign or they become one of the unicorns who plays great well into his 30s. More often than not, neither seems to happen, especially with this team.
Brian boyle had a 3 year 1.7 M contract from us and then a 3 year 2 M from TB.
That was up to 2016.
Salaries and the cap didn't change THAT much that suddenly a player like Boyle should be getting double the years AND double the AAV.
On a scale from terrible deal to great. I put this solidly in the "Not good" category bc we need to get super lucky for this to not suck hard for half the life of the deal.
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guys here had mentioned his being at NYR Prospect Camp, that sent me searching
New York Rangers: Prospect Development Camp Roster Released
fun to see all those names
New York Rangers: Prospect Development Camp Roster Released
fun to see all those names
I can't believe there are people who have seen the BAD overpayments we've had as a franchise almost every single season for almost two decades and can't understand why some of us have some reservations everytime we get another good candidate for a rough contract.
I at least like the TIMING of this contract bc next season is definitively when the window needs to open wide for us competing. Which is why i dont think it'll be a terrible deal. I look at these deals based on how likely it seems to eff us and for how long.
My answers there are "Pretty likely for 3 seasons."
And then I look at the cap and what we need it for in the future and this starts to look even more rough. But when we have contracts like Kreider and Trouba I cant get on this particular contract quite as badly in that dept.
I disagree. I want to like this signing, but it's bad. For the next few years, we have only 5 vets signed:
Panarin - 11.6M
Kreider - 6.5
Goodrow - 3.6
Trouba - 8
Lindgren - 3
That's almost $33M for 5 players. And those 5 players include potentially 2 3rd liners and no #1 d-man.
The average salary to fill out the rest of the roster is now below $3M per player. That number will have to include a huge Fox deal, a #1 and #2 center, Igor, etc. Our role players HAVE TO BE near league minimum given our roster construction. Goodrow is a nice player, but cap space is the greatest asset right now. When teams are contending, they acquire Goodrows at the deadline and don't pay them $3.6M.
What really sucks is we should have 3 more ELC years on kravtsov to play with instead of one (Unless there's some kind of technicality with Russian players who stay overseas. Unfortunately our old staff severely miscalculated how ready VK was and severely overestimated Quinn's ability to develop anyone at all who wasnt already a vet
But for the next three seasons we should at least be able to keep a ton of guys on cheap bridge deals or they're mostly still on ELC (Like Laf, K'andre, Nils coming in, Kakko, kravtsov, Chytil)
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Fast and Goodrow the only ones that were consistent NHL players. Lindberg left for Europe. no heart to stay in the NHL. softee.
I just think everything is unclear until you see how it all plays out. Paying a guy who is going to get ~15 minutes of icetime a game 3.6 million just isn't a cap killer if hes giving you a good 15 minutes. It does however make it more important to keep finding cost controlled/cheap bottom line and depth guys that can actually contribute.
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Exactly the type of player needed to move forward was never signing anywhere for $2M a season. Would’ve preferred $3M for 3 or 4 but it is what it is. After Tanev, this was never gonna be cheap. It really shows Fast should’ve gotten 3x3 at least.
I’m glad he’s on board.
I’m glad he’s on board.
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