Confirmed with Link: Rangers acquire Patrick Kane, Cooper Zech for 2023 2nd (Becomes 1st in 2024 or 2025 if NYR Make ECF), 2025 4th, A. Welinski; Condt'l 2025 3rd to AZ

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Totally agreed. A bit of a pedantic argument on my side. My main point is, I totally understand why some folks (myself included) are worried about injecting Kane into the lineup even though we got him for very little. Metrics show that the last three years, he's been a FAR cry from the player he was in his prime. Plus, it's always hard to quantify what effect this might have on other players who get pushed down the lineup.

I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic about this.
He still produced 92 points last year. And while everyone is bemoaning his season this year, he's actually not far off from a PPG pace.

I understand the advanced analytics argument, but my response to that is two fold...
- Advance analytics are not predictive in any way. When he was at 1% WAR (or whatever) they couldn't have predicted he would dominate the next 4 games with 10 points
- For a team that got knocked out of the ECF last year due to an inability to score goals late in the series, it's nice to bring in one of the best offensive threats in all of hockey
 
If we lost the 1st and the ECF it's still a ton of playoff experience in back to back years for a very young team. Building blocks.

Also, our entire kid line idolized this dude growing up. If he can teach them even one new trick or pump their tires in the slightest it's worth the price IMO.
 
I hate to tell you all this but, this is it. This is the year to win. The Rangers will not ice a better team than this for years, perhaps even decades.

The clock started ticking when we signed Panarin and Fox walked on water at the NHL level. The clock started ticking much faster when Laf and Kakko disappointed and every other pick besides Chytil and Miller busted. The clock is ticking alarmingly fast as Igor's deal is 2 years from expiry.

This is our shot whether you like it or not, suggest getting with the program because you're in for a long and miserable next few years if this don't work out. The difference is that we're in for that long and miserable next few years whether we traded for Tara/Kane or not.

And I say all this as someone who adamantly didn't want him before.

Too much pressure. If they pull another 2015 and make it to ECF but lose in 7 games, I'll explode. Regardless of what happens, should be a fun ride. Hopefully Lindgren's closet is stacked floor to ceiling with Toradol.
 
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These forwards don't play d, Igor better up his game because they're going to run up the shot count, lol.
 
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The deal is amazing in lack of value, but just really wanted a Cup Final instead of ECF Final condition (cup win is greedy, but losing a 1st when you get curb-stomped by the Bruins or Leafs would really suck).
 
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Maybe I was confusing you with the other guy that was incessantly bitching but the point still stands, you aren’t going to get a player for nothing, you need to give up a least something of value. A 2024 or 2025 is about as low value as you can get in this situation.
I never said anything other than the fact that I dislike the condition of the 1st. Should've been for winning it all. Other than that, this is a steal of a deal. Happy now?
 
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Survive the Devils/Carolina gauntlet, and hope Tampa or Toronto needed 14 games to knock each other out, and then beat Boston.
 
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one of my favorite players ever, been dreaming of this since 2008. could not care less about the conditional 1st
As someone who went to school outside of Chicago early in Kane's career and somewhat adopted the Hawks as their "2nd favorite team", Kane became my favorite player to watch in all of hockey. I know, I know, he's a nightmare off the ice. But I couldn't be more excited to see what he looks like on the ice as a Ranger.
 
I never said anything other than the fact that I dislike the condition of the 1st. Should've been for winning it all. Other than that, this is a steal of a deal. Happy now?
Agreed should be cup win rather than making ECF. Winning only 2 rounds just doesn’t matter that much at this point and will hurt us down the road
 
Drury with the NHL equivalent of returning bottles for the nickels in order to scrape up the cap space, but he really didn't have a choice here. If Kane says he only wants to play for us and we say no thanks, the only way you come out of that alive is to win the cup. Anything short probably winds up with you clearing out your office for someone new.
 
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