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Fogel

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Jones probably needs a breather or a break, he's had arguably 1 good start out of his past 5 (2 bad, 2 mediocre). Despite that, the Pirates have 3 of the top 65 pitching fWAR so the pitching side of things is still pretty good especially compared to the bats.

Davis needs a reset, development is never a straight line. His defense is passable if not average at C and he has mashed the ball at AAA before. At worst, he is a AAAA player, but I won't pass judgement on 357 at bats.

However, hell no to a Torkelson swap; Davis has at least mashed at several levels, the last time Torkelson had an above average season for a 1B was his first minor league season.

Sad trombone when a 37 yr old Cutch has the highest OBP on the team.
 
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Fogel said:
Jones probably needs a breather or a break, he's had arguably 1 good start out of his past 5 (2 bad, 2 mediocre). Despite that, the Pirates have 3 of the top 65 pitching fWAR so the pitching side of things is still pretty good especially compared to the bats.

Davis needs a reset, development is never a straight line. His defense is passable if not average at C and he has mashed the ball at AAA before. At worst, he is a AAAA player, but I won't pass judgement on 357 at bats.

However, hell no to a Torkelson swap; Davis has at least mashed at several levels, the last time Torkelson had an above average season for a 1B was his first minor league season.

Sad trombone when a 37 yr old Cutch has the highest OBP on the team.
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Davis has already been sent back to AAA. Delay was called up and I think he had a really good game in his first game back.

I imagine we'll be seeing Jones sent back to Bradenton for a rest sometime in the next few weeks. Not only do they need to keep his innings down, but he also seems like he's getting tired and needs the break. They can't do it right now, but they'll do that once they start getting healthier in their rotation.
 

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It's demoralizing knowing the Pirates have the worst offense in the league and a 2-0 lead is nearly insurmountable.
 
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It's frustrating but Lodolo is a good pitcher who looks really sharp tonight. Not much Falter can do. He's gotten some good luck with the BABIP but also eaten innings well and kept it competitive. I think the Reds just blew a late inning lead the other day, so I'd probably manage to keep it close, though not quite sure I'd burn Chapman/Holderman/Bednar if we still have 0 runs.

It would be nice if Falter can get another inning, maybe even 2.
 
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Yeah, we just got beat. We maybe had a chance to claim a lead there in the third inning after Reynolds' double, but Lodolo was hitting his spots all game and the Reds just didn't make a mistake. Falter nearly pulled off a shutout, even if he also had a fair amount of traffic and got some good bounces.

It was a game the Reds had to take. I like Keller vs. Greene tomorrow, but Greene is more than capable of mowing down a lineup that doesn't have too many hitters locked in right now. Gonzales had some tough ABs tonight, though he battled some in his final one. Cruz ran into a ball as a pinch hitter, and he will be key tomorrow.

We'll need Keller to put up a similar 6+, low scoring affair, but Greene has been far from perfect or efficient. Presumably it will be an offensive environment with the day game, so it will be important to punish him if he's walking 3+ as he has in several starts.
 
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I was not expecting us to do well against Lodolo especially with Joe in the wilderness. I think Cutch was right to just go for it on Reynolds' smash in the 8th and try to tie it. Just good defense by Cinci.

Tomorrow is a huge game.
 
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What is the point of your post?? He's stating a frustrating fact and instead of addressing his point, you make a snarky remark. And people like your post.... amazing
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Well, metal has a tendency to only show up when things aren't going well and to find the darkness even when things are
 
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I don't mind people being negative about the Pirates if it's constructive discussion and actually adds value.

People who just come into here to bitch and moan about the team while offering literally nothing but bitching and moaning? Yeah, screw that.
 
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ChaosAgent said:
I was not expecting us to do well against Lodolo especially with Joe in the wilderness. I think Cutch was right to just go for it on Reynolds' smash in the 8th and try to tie it. Just good defense by Cinci.

Tomorrow is a huge game.
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I agree, I got no problem with Cutch going for it.
 
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Yeah, sucks we couldn't help Falter out with run support. He did his job. The Reds did sting the ball pretty good vs Falter with some hard outs and deep fouls, besides the hits, but 2 runs through 7, we'll take that all the time.
 
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Went tonight. Damn was it hot. Just gotta say.. wtf is with pinch hitting Suwinski? Had nice seats but it doesn't matter where you sit or watch, Jack's swing is jacked up. It is so tight and so awkward at this point. He should not be in the Majors right now. Why is Rowdy not pinch hitting there, if anyone??
Frustrating one, as TD said Reds had some hard contact tonight but still very solid from Falter. Have to add some bats somewhere.
 
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Pittsburgh Pirates Top 40 Prospects

This is an average, top-heavy system, with the best two guys having big success in the majors, while the rest of the farm is grounded in high-variance, high-risk types.
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Fangraphs released the Pirates prospect update. No super notable surprises here, but the Pirates have 8 45 FV or better SP prospects. It also has Brannigan at a 45 FV, which I think is a bit of a jump for him.

Fangraphs loves Jones as a prospect as well, saying the only thing keeping him from a 60 FV prospect is his size. He graduated as a top-20 prospect in baseball.
 
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The bats showed up again. It sucks we have to win most games 2-1, or 3-2, and if we go down, we normally have no chance of coming back.

Lunacy we haven't made a move for another bat, but then again, this organization isn't actually trying to win.
 
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Rinse and repeat today Hunter Greene is good but still. We’ll probably get shut out by him and give up a RBI double to like that freaky looking dude Jonathan ****ing India or something, 1-0 final.
 
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