OT: Raise the Jolly Roger: New season of plundering begins

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sovietsanta87

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Really coaching?

You can dislike the staff for a variety of real reasons but not for major league baseball players having poor instincts. This inst little league anything that can be coahed into them has alreday. The only thing a coach can do at this level are mechanical changes to swing/throwing motions etc, and vibes.
They can set a culture of professionalism and attention to detail. Every tesm makes errors and does stupid shit but this team is flat out sloppy. The least the coaching staff could do is raise the bar of expectations beyond “boy golly garsh it’s awesome to be here in the major leagues!”
 

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They can set a culture of professionalism and attention to detail. Every tesm makes errors and does stupid shit but this team is flat out sloppy. The least the coaching staff could do is raise the bar of expectations beyond “boy golly garsh it’s awesome to be here in the major leagues!”
Because that will change anything, assuming theyre not already doing that.

Oh heres an idea maybe they should run laps.
 

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Coaching does have an effect, it's obtuse to argue otherwise

Now, what they can do or what results they can achieve, i don't know, I don't care, I'm a fan and i can complain

I'm not going let a guy off the hook if they stop running at a bloop hit into shallow right

Or say it was fine to jog on a ball that hasn't made it over the wall yet

I'm sure the players know this. They are adults making millions of dollars. I'm sure the coaches know this.

I'm a fan eating popcorn and I'm gonna give a loud, sarcastic bronx cheer at bullshit like it.

But if @ramzi,you're arguing if a coach at a professional level can not create TALENT, then yeah, I'm with you. By high school these dudes either have it or not,from a talent standpoint.

They should know baserunning and game theory by now... But, highlights would suggest otherwise. So, they could work on that
 
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It's going to be after their anticipated Super Two deadline at this point. The excuse they will trot out is that he hasn't yet been on the 5-day schedule, so he needs to show that he can do that for a few weeks while maintaining 75-80+ pitches/start.

Assuming the obvious and he debuts at home, then there's maybe a small chance that it happens in the next homestand, which starts two weeks from tomorrow. From a ticket sales perspective, it's always made more sense to me that they would target a Tuesday or Wednesday, since those are going to be low selling games and you can almost count on a "double" debut of sorts with more people coming out for his next start on the weekend anyways.

But if it doesn't happen then, the Pirates are going to have to have a homestand from June 4-9 which is close to when Super Two likely will fall but not guaranteed. I have a hard time seeing the debut happening on that homestand, i.e., if it doesn't happen in two weeks, then we are looking at June 17 or onwards.

The thing is, it's really going to take some mountains of BS to kick the can for 6 more weeks. My hunch is that they will slow roll this 5-day schedule thing a bit. He didn't have the smoothest start on Sunday when it was his first time on the 5-day schedule, but it's not like he got touched up. I still think it's going to be difficult to spin this for more than a month, but I think that's where we are headed.
 

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Idk it's also entirely possible that Shelton is just not spilling the beans about Skenes being called up yet until he's officially called up :dunno:
 

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I think that's true too, but I would expect they will announce it or hype it up at least a couple days in advance in order to drum up ticket sales.

Since Indy is away from home, it doesn't matter in terms of their ticket sales, so it could be something where it's not announced until Wednesday or whatever. Doubly so if the roster move is swapping Priester for Skenes, since Priester pitches Tuesday.

The thing I forgot to mention is that on the NS0 podcast the other day, Stumpf, who is definitely plugged in with the team, made it really seem like Sunday was his last AAA start. I also think based on what I said above, it's kind of now or never, as if we're going to do a home start and not worry about Super Two BS, it's basically time now.
 
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I think that's true too, but I would expect they will announce it or hype it up at least a couple days in advance in order to drum up ticket sales.

Since Indy is away from home, it doesn't matter in terms of their ticket sales, so it could be something where it's not announced until Wednesday or whatever. Doubly so if the roster move is swapping Priester for Skenes, since Priester pitches Tuesday.

It's likely not legit, but there was a post on the Pirates subreddit that said that Skenes is coming up and starting on Friday. If he comes up, I think we'll realistically know on like Wednesday by the latest.

The other aspect to consider is who would get DFA'd to add Skenes to the 40 man. Figure it will probably be a AAA guy, but DFAing someone like Contreras would require getting a replacement reliever for him.
 
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