OT: Raise the Jolly Roger: Dull days of July

[WickedWrister]

Better effort by Hayes to at least extend the at bat, but man, he looks lost right now.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Nicky G, so clutch

I'm pretty down on Gonzales right now because he's been awful since his super hot start, but you can't deny the dude just comes in absolute clutch whenever he's in a position to get an RBI.

Even with his struggles, I think you have to leave him in the 6 spot just because of how reliable he is with getting RBIs.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Hayes

 

[ChaosAgent]

C'Mon Bednar.

I have reached my breaking point with Hayes. Trade for Rengifo and move Gonzales to 3rd. Trade Hayes for McMahon. Just get him TF off this team. I don't care about the 3 wins or whatever bullshit he's worth in the field. A 3B needs to hit.

 

[metalan2]

Who's worse, Hayes or Rowdy earlier in year?

 

[ChaosAgent]

Who's worse, Hayes or Rowdy earlier in year?

They are both similar. The problem is ground balls. If you can't stop hitting them you will lose your team games.

 

[Empoleon8771]

C'Mon Bednar.

I have reached my breaking point with Hayes. Trade for Rengifo and move Gonzales to 3rd. Trade Hayes for McMahon. Just get him TF off this team. I don't care about the 3 wins or whatever bullshit he's worth in the field. A 3B needs to hit.

I feel like Hayes is a situation where both the player and team would welcome a trade at this point.

I wouldn't trade him just to get out of his contract, because you're likely not getting more value for the money he costs, but I think it's a no brainer to explore the market in a player for player swap.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I feel like Hayes is a situation where both the player and team would welcome a trade at this point.

I wouldn't trade him just to get out of his contract, because you're likely not getting more value for the money he costs, but I think it's a no brainer to explore the market in a player for player swap.

McMahon is a costlier contract. Hayes' was frontloaded so its only $7M/year going forward. But if Colorado wants it, it's very tempting.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Raise it! Huge to get game 1 in this series.

 

[BusinessGoose]

RAISE IT

We're in the Wild Card tonight!

 

[WickedWrister]

Raise it!

Situational hitting wasn't great but another gem by the pitching staff + bullpen and some solid defense.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Raise it! Would have been a shame to waste that Keller performance.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Raise It!

 

[BusinessGoose]

Who's worse, Hayes or Rowdy earlier in year?

Rowdy dude, but, it sucks we even need to entertain the thought

 

[Empoleon8771]

This was another game where the "let's trade Chapman" idea becomes less appealing to me.

If you want to clear up money to add to the bats, I wonder if Perez makes more sense to dangle. You already have 3 low rotation, soft throwing lefties with Falter, Perez and Gonzales.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Rowdy had another huge game, game saving defensive play.

I was ok with them trading Chapman and doing whatever else anyway, but when he's on he's so unhittable that I can't bring myself to part with him.

 

[WickedWrister]

RAISE IT

We're in the Wild Card tonight!

T-WC3 with 4 teams but I'll take it!

 

[ChaosAgent]

This was another game where the "let's trade Chapman" idea becomes less appealing to me.

If you want to clear up money to add to the bats, I wonder if Perez makes more sense to dangle.

I've been very critical of Priester but Priester > Perez right now easily, and likely so is Ashcraft if healthy. I don't think Perez is worth much though...no more than what we would have gotten for Hill which wasn't much. Would only save Nutting $2.8M which...well, I guess we could end up doing it.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

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T-WC3 with 4 teams but I'll take it!

This is going to be quite the race!

 

[Empoleon8771]

I've been very critical of Priester but Priester > Perez right now easily, and likely so is Ashcraft if healthy. I don't think Perez is worth much though...no more than what we would have gotten for Hill which wasn't much. Would only save Nutting $2.8M which...well, I guess we could end up doing it.

I think the idea I have is that they have a set limit on how much money Nutting is allowing them to spend on payroll, so they could reinvest that $2.8 million in bats if they move Perez. Which is enough to get you both Thomas and Chisholm for the rest of the year, although their arbitration situation in 2025 complicates things a bit.

You'd get some low level 18 year old minors prospect for Perez but then use the money cleared up to add a bat or two without actually increasing the payroll of the team.

 

[metalan2]

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T-WC3 with 4 teams but I'll take it!

How's that work anyway with the new rules? I read there are no play on games, but tie breakers, right?

 

[wheelz87]

Huge win! A+ pitching.
Please. Get. A. Bat. Or two.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

Great win. Great performance by Keller to stand on that mound and prove the contract extension was a great move.

I think this is kind of easy to say given that we won, but though I share the frustration with the offense, there's a balancing act with giving credit to the opponent. Pallante doesn't seem all that great on paper, but he's performed over the course of several starts and locked down when he needed to tonight. We definitely should have come through at some point -- I look at Bart's inability to get the sac fly the most -- but I guess I feel like baseball is just sort of like this sometimes, and there's only so many excuses.

I don't say this to let the offense off the hook, but in these close games, you either step up and get the one clutch hit or you don't. Nicky G came through. Cardinals fans are definitely thinking they blew a huge opportunity to get a road win and put some stress on the Skenes start tomorrow.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Or another example if Cherington would be concerned about their upcoming arb cases: trade Perez and bring in Winker, which is a pure UFA for UFA swap that still leaves them about $2.4 million in saved payroll.

I wouldn't expect them to make 2 OF adds, but adding Winker for the rest of this year and Chisholm for the next few years would be a damn good deadline.

 

[Factorial]

Who's worse, Hayes or Rowdy earlier in year?

Rowdy by far.

Raise it!

Situational hitting wasn't great but another gem by the pitching staff + bullpen and some solid defense.

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As a former smoker I get this.