Raise the Jolly Roger - Are You Ready For 98 Wins & An Absurdly Early Off-Season?!

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it's the best defensive lineup that includes the hotter hitters. my god, pedro had 23 errors at first base. you cannot trust him in a tight one off playoff game that you are hoping to win 2-1
 

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I'm really having a problem understanding this SRod start. He's a pretty bad hitter to begin with but his numbers against RHP starters are these: .192/.229/.304/.533
This is also a guy who has walked all of 5 times in 240 plate appearances. Michael Morse has walked 23 times in roughly the same number of plate appearances. Sure Pedro's defense in this kind of game is problematic enough to sit him but Morse has been decent defensively for us and is a much better hitter/on-base guy.

We have 27 outs to score some runs in a 9 inning game. We shouldn't be gifting the Cubs with any. As for faith that Hurdle will pull SRod for a pinch hitter if we've got a man on base. I am sorely lacking.
 

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Let's not pretend that there's some big offensive gap between Harrison & Ramirez. There's a huge power gap, but even then their SLG & OPS are almost identical this season thanks to the equally huge speed difference.
Yeah, it is getting pretty old knowing every ground ball Rammer hits with runners on is a guaranteed DP. Especially when you're used to watching Marte, Polanco, and Cutch get down the line.
 

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In big games a manager should scrap all stats and go with his most talented lineup. You can't win anything without production from your corner positions. I can live with either Pedro or Aram sitting, but both???

It was going to be a tough road to win tonight anyway, but with a bad lineup, I just don't see how you get it done. Manager who try to be the smartest guy in the room always end up losing. We all know what the obvious lineup was, but Clint had to show he smarter than everyone else. I have zero problem with him doing so in the regular season, but in a one and done scenario??

GAME OVER

I could not disagree more with your first paragraph - it's lazy thinking. This will likely be a pitchers duel, you don't start a defensive black whole at 1b, which rules out both Pedro & Aramis.
 

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Also best possible lineup to create havoc on the basepaths (in the good way and bad way unfortunately) and gives them the option of using the running game as a weapon all through the lineup.
 

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I'm really having a problem understanding this SRod start. He's a pretty bad hitter to begin with but his numbers against RHP starters are these: .192/.229/.304/.533
This is also a guy who has walked all of 5 times in 240 plate appearances. Michael Morse has walked 23 times in roughly the same number of plate appearances. Sure Pedro's defense in this kind of game is problematic enough to sit him but Morse has been decent defensively for us and is a much better hitter/on-base guy.

We have 27 outs to score some runs in a 9 inning game. We shouldn't be gifting the Cubs with any. As for faith that Hurdle will pull SRod for a pinch hitter if we've got a man on base. I am sorely lacking.

S-Rod surely blew chunks at the plate for several months, but he hit the ball hard with good results the last 10 weeks of the season.

I would start Morse in Hurdle's shoes, but it's a close decision, and I can't fault the logic of having our best defender there given his recent hitting.
 

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I could not disagree more with your first paragraph - it's lazy thinking. This will likely be a pitchers duel, you don't start a defensive black whole at 1b, which rules out both Pedro & Aramis.

Do you think the Pirates are going to put together a string of hits in multiple innings to get them 3 runs tonight?

Cole will not shut out the Cubs, at least it's not likely. My best bet is he gives up 2-3 runs through 7IP.
 

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S-Rod surely blew chunks at the plate for several months, but he hit the ball hard with good results the last 10 weeks of the season.

I would start Morse in Hurdle's shoes, but it's a close decision, and I can't fault the logic of having our best defender there given his recent hitting.

Largely against poor relievers because he typically comes in late in games the Bucs are winning.

Listen, it's this simple: the Pirates lose if they can't score against Arrieta. The bottom third of this lineup is laughably weak, which means Arrieta has to shut down 66% of an offense. It likely won't matter how well they play defensively.

It seems Hurdle is betting on Cole completely shutting the Cubs down. As good as Cole is, that's a fool's bet. This lineup puts way too much pressure on Cole's shoulders from the get go.
 

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Its robbing Peter to pay Paul and nothing more. Hurdle is sacrificing offense for defense. He's banking on Cole keeping it to 2 runs or less. Probably hoping it can be a battle of the bullpens. I admit I was pissed when I saw the lineup but after thinking about it, it does make sense. Alvarez has no one to blame but himself for not starting tonight.
 

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2 runs won't get it done tonight though. At least all signs, stats and feelings around baseball say that. If the Cubs get 2 off Cole tonight, the game is almost assuredly over. I see us maybe, MAYBE getting a single run off Arrieta through 7 or 8 innings. Does that mean Cole won't go out and hold the Cubs to a run or none? Not at all. He's more than capable of doing that.
 

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Its robbing Peter to pay Paul and nothing more. Hurdle is sacrificing offense for defense. He's banking on Cole keeping it to 2 runs or less. Probably hoping it can be a battle of the bullpens. I admit I was pissed when I saw the lineup but after thinking about it, it does make sense. Alvarez has no one to blame but himself for not starting tonight.
this x100. i struggle to believe he couldnt have gotten better at fielding that position in the offseason.
 

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S-Rod surely blew chunks at the plate for several months, but he hit the ball hard with good results the last 10 weeks of the season.

I would start Morse in Hurdle's shoes, but it's a close decision, and I can't fault the logic of having our best defender there given his recent hitting.

SRod's numbers for the last 28 days: .158/.238/.316/.554 Given his "recent hitting" he should be our starting pitcher.
 

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Both lineups are strange. I hope Bryant and Schwarber implode in the OF tonight.
 

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Do you think the Pirates are going to put together a string of hits in multiple innings to get them 3 runs tonight?

Cole will not shut out the Cubs, at least it's not likely. My best bet is he gives up 2-3 runs through 7IP.

I believe the Bucks will score a couple runs tonight and absolutely cannot afford to give up runs because of bad D.
 

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Cubs fans sure are cocky for fans of a team that last won a ws years before WWI started. Arrieta is great, but Cole has been great in his limited po experiences. For all they know, Arrieta could be like Kershaw and fall apart in a postseason setting. You simply can never tell.
 
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