Value of: Radulov at the deadline

[Legend123]

Wont have a value till he gets on the ice for games that matter

if he goes out and gets no goals in 40 games---what value will he have

by that logic, every single player is worth nothing

 

[Jumptheshark]

by that logic, every single player is worth nothing

how many games did Rado play in the NHL last year?

you are over looking that point that I was making

you are being silly--he has not stepped foot on an nhl ice for four years and someone who takes in about a dozen or KHL games a year--the KHL is not as good as many want us to believe

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

how many games did Rado play in the NHL last year?

you are over looking that point that I was making

you are being silly--he has not stepped foot on an nhl ice for four years and someone who takes in about a dozen or KHL games a year--the KHL is not as good as many want us to believe

So Radulov is what, a potato on skates because he plays in an inferior league? He has a large list of records and is the best scorer in khl league history. To imply he won't make a dent in the NHL when a decade ago he was at least a good second liner is iffy at best.

Not saying he'all be god on ice but the guy is one of the best Russian players alive. Even international competitions show that.

 

[CanadienShark]

You wouldn't say that if you actually watch him play.

He plays hard w/ alot of intensity, he's not a floater. Someone who has unbelievable talent and is a hard worker is very unlikely to fail in the NHL. Guy is really strong on his skates too, he's a tank.

He'll have a 60 point season at the very minimum, could also reach 70. He's an elite playmaker.

Previous immature decisions = bad, lazy player though, you know that...

 

[48g90a138pts]

Obviously it depends how his season has gone by the trade deadline. But on the hypothetical he could garner a excellent return. A 1st round and possibly prospects if he's having a outstanding season.

Not trying to give anyone a hernia, but if the Oilers were a buyer at the TDL they have many young assets that could be part of a trade for a playoff run. Most likely though Chiarelli might not want to spend heavily at a TDL before ensuring he's got a consistant playoff team built.

Though if Radulov was having a excellent season it would be best to resign him to a longer contract. He's probably got 3 or 4 years of 20-30 goals left, that's really hard to replace with a late round draft pick and prospects.

 

[Fear the Wushu]

how many games did Rado play in the NHL last year?

you are over looking that point that I was making

you are being silly--he has not stepped foot on an nhl ice for four years and someone who takes in about a dozen or KHL games a year--the KHL is not as good as many want us to believe

Panarin is not 75% as good of a hockey player as Radulov and he tore up the NHL in his first season over here. Radulov will do just fine, he is extremely talented. In fact, the KHL has plenty of players who are elite and would do well in the NHL.

You are severely under rating the quality of the KHL's top players.

 

[OCPenguin]

What exactly do you mean by never finish what he starts? Cause of the one time he was 20 and went home mid contract? Sit down, your hate of Russians is showing.

He never finishes what he started. He had one more year remaining on his contract; he knew that, but signed a contract in the KHL regardless. He comes back, plays nine games for Nashville four years later (not a full season, but nine games). It's pretty simple to me. My hate for Russians? Nope. If I hated Russians, I wouldn't have a 71 jersey - would I? Nice try. Radulov is a goof and is destined to fail IMO.

 

[beowulf]

What a positive attitude...the season has not even started but let's talk about the team not making the playoffs and trading players already.

 

[HOPE]

We definitly need to sign him no matter what. Hopefully yhey already talk about extention numbers if he performs. My guess is the 1 years deal was to prevent from protecting him and they already have some kid of deals if everything goes well. Just hope he didnt pick the habs tl make his stock goes up and cash up. The guy looks happy to be here so far and he'll be a god if he can keep playing like this!

 

[bigduga]

Frankly, he's packed up and left so many times that they'd have a difficult time getting market value for the guy.

Even if he sets the league on fire - Nobody is giving up full-package assets for him. If they trade him, i expect they'll have to do so at 75 cents on the dollar, because what GM in his right mind would take the guy at his word that he's not going to run back to the KHL the first time something doesn't go his way?

Helluva talent, but he's got a (well-earned) reputation for having a ten-cent head, and the decisions he made in his 20s may have been mistakes that a younger man made, but they're going to stick to him forever as far as the cost of cash or assets to acquire him is concerned.

If he's half the player montreal expects him to be, they'll probably find that the value proposition is to keep him.

 

[HockeyHead21]

Frankly, he's packed up and left so many times that they'd have a difficult time getting market value for the guy.

Even if he sets the league on fire - Nobody is giving up full-package assets for him. If they trade him, i expect they'll have to do so at 75 cents on the dollar, because what GM in his right mind would take the guy at his word that he's not going to run back to the KHL the first time something doesn't go his way?

Helluva talent, but he's got a (well-earned) reputation for having a ten-cent head, and the decisions he made in his 20s may have been mistakes that a younger man made, but they're going to stick to him forever as far as the cost of cash or assets to acquire him is concerned.

If he's half the player montreal expects him to be, they'll probably find that the value proposition is to keep him.

At least 16 of them. If everything goes well, he would be an excellent add to any team either in or on the bubble of a playoff spot. Everyone keeps saying how he ran back to Russia. Yes, he left with one year left on his contract. Was it right? No. Can we chalk it up as a mistake? Knowing HF no but that's exactly what it was. An immature mistake by a foreign player. People act like instead of going out for a shift in the 2nd period he went to the locker room, undressed and jumped on a plane back to Russia. Trading for Radulov at the deadline for most teams is a pure rental anyway. Chicago couldn't afford to re-sign him in the offseason but they sure as hell would take him for another cup run.

 

[WaveRaven]

Why would you trade for him at the deadline ?

I guess if you want to make sure your tank season gets tankier.

 

[Kamiccolo]

So Radulov is what, a potato on skates because he plays in an inferior league? He has a large list of records and is the best scorer in khl league history. To imply he won't make a dent in the NHL when a decade ago he was at least a good second liner is iffy at best.

Not saying he'all be god on ice but the guy is one of the best Russian players alive. Even international competitions show that.

I feel you are missing the point on purpose and getting upset for no reason. What he said is logical. It's been a decade since he's been on NHL ice in an NHL game, even the same with the AHL, he has never had a large sample size in the NHL of him being a star, and compared to other players his lack of history means his value is unknown until he does something.

This is like me as a Leaf fan becoming upset Zaitsev isn't getting valued highly yet when he was a #1 D in the KHL and russia's #1 D at the world cup of hockey this year. He needs to show he can do it in the NHL first.

So if he sucks, probably nothing. If he is good, Montreal probably is in a playoff spot.

No one knows his value at this point, not even you.

 

[Beville]

Possibly one of the silliest threads ever...

What's the value of McJesus at the TDL? Or Matthews? etc

 

[go4hockey]

He looks amazing in the preseason, tho

He is playing against AHL guys. Let see how he does in the real games.

 

[WesMcCauley]

It's a one year deal. They wouldn't be retaining.

As for value, it's way too early.

Ye cause a lot of contenders can take on his cap hit at the deadline. Very likely to retain something if he is traded at the deadline

 

[HockeyHead21]

Ye cause a lot of contenders can take on his cap hit at the deadline. Very likely to retain something if he is traded at the deadline

The contract will mostly be paid out by then.

 

[hagelin1381]

I doubt the Habs will be out of the playoffs if he plays well

 

[Srsly]

The habs are such an enigmatic team. I wouldn't be surprised if Price backstopped the team to a 1st place finish in the East. Of course they could miss the playoffs as well, it's way too early to tell. We're also not sure how Radulov will perform on North American ice after a lengthy hiatus. There's just way too many variables at hand for a good reading on his value to the Habs.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

he isnt the kind of guy contending teams are gonna target.
whats the market for a guy who got benched the last time he was in the playoffs because he was out partying the night before a game?

Here we go again...

 

[WesMcCauley]

The contract will mostly be paid out by then.

Still has 5,75 cap hit or am i missing something?

 

[KILLger]

Still has 5,75 cap hit or am i missing something?

Hit is per day with the team so no

 

[CanadienShark]

No evidence of laziness. Rather the opposite.

I know, I was being sarcastic.

 

[gwh]

Panarin is not 75% as good of a hockey player as Radulov and he tore up the NHL in his first season over here.

Radulov > Panarin for sure. I d put Radulov at level of "at least Tarasenko or higher".

 

[gwh]

I doubt the Habs will be out of the playoffs if he plays well

Simulation (Cordelia) thinks Habs "playoff premium" is almost all relying on goaltending. No price, no playoffs.