Draft R1 #23: New York Rangers Select RW Gabriel Perreault (Boston College, NCAA)
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mas0764
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We had a first and second overall pick that turned into jack shit.
I’m not getting excited over anything with this administration until they actually accomplish it.
I mean I don't think the 1st and 2nd overall turning out to be shit has much to do with this administration in the end but yeah also not really counting chickens here
mas0764
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It absolutely had a lot to do with the administration. We didn’t just “miss” on like 8 straight first round picks. We misdeveloped them.
Go get that money if they're throwing it at you.
Some company approaches your agent and says "do some ads with our stuff we'll give you a bunch of money" do you say no?
eh.
if Laf and Kakko were as good as they "should" have been we'd have something more than we do now
I agree that their development was subpar but they also weren't the talents we all hoped
mas0764
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They are more talented than they turned out though. And it’s not just because they didn’t turn out anywhere either that lets us off the hook - 18, 19, 20 are important formative years that if you waste them you never get it back.
We missed on Andersson, Chytil, Kravtsov, Miller, Nils Lundkvist, Lafreniere, Schneider, and Othmann. Not a single one of them is a high end success story given where we picked them. Even the “hits” with Miller and Schneider we are looking to move them before paying them and we have major buyers remorse with Lafreniere. Othmann has stagnated since juniors.
You don’t just misevaluate that many players in a row. We are getting pennies on the dollar because we aren’t developing them properly.
Machinehead
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If you're excited about it, that's great, I'm not here to tell you not to be, but I can't sit here and expect anyone to be excited based on our track record.
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IDK we 'helped' Laf develop finally by forcing him with Panarin and Trocheck, and he regressed this season just like everyone else. Was it too late? Do players only develop from 18-21?
A lot of those guys were just pants. Andersson, McIlrath and Kravtsov all of us knew were reach picks from the momet we took tem.
A lot of those guys were just pants. Andersson, McIlrath and Kravtsov all of us knew were reach picks from the momet we took tem.
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Not a NYR fan, but Gabe's contract is on puckpedia. And they get their info from reliable sources.
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If nothing else, Perreault will make the team a little more exciting to watch when he plays. And given the fact that i have 0 expectation of team success, that's enough for me
So based on this, he will finish this season with the Rangers. No need to sign him to a contract for this season just to play for the Wolfpack
Machinehead
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I think it's a combination of bad drafting to begin with, bad luck in terms of having high picks in drafts that always sucked, and not having a cohesive identity/vision at the NHL level which hurts development. All of those are true imo.
If anything, my biggest gripe is that we never seem to have a happy accident in later rounds a la Point or Kaprisov, or even with a late first like Wyatt Johnston. It seems to happen to everyone but us and logic dictates that we're doing something wrong, whether it's trading away too many bullets, not having a good drafting/scouting plan for potential future stars, development, or some combination thereof.**
**Unless it's a goaltender. I know we've done it with goaltenders and pointing that out is like unironically telling people that wrestling is fake.
Filip Chytil
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Well, not to get too ahead of ourselves or anything, but now that we have him signed, it looks like the Cup is ours
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effen
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Ideally I'd like to see Othmann-Trocheck-Perreault or Panarin-Trocheck-Perreault. Defensively responsible C, finisher on the other wing (hopefully Othmann can start finishing.)
Cuylle-Miller-Perreault could be interesting also. Or move Laf back to LW and run Laf-Miller-Perreault.
Cuylle-Miller-Perreault could be interesting also. Or move Laf back to LW and run Laf-Miller-Perreault.
Im not expecting happy accidents any time soon. The recent late round strategy seems to just be selecting any NBA power forward sized human
effen
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They didn't miss on Chytil (fine but injuries), Schneider (280 NHL games at 23), or KAM (braindead as he can be, a top-4 D by any metric since he came into the league 5 years ago). Laf has only himself to blame for not moving his feet for the better part of 5 years. Brennan Othmann has 33 goals in 94 AHL games so a ~30 goal pace which is perfectly fine.
They haven't done great, but it's not an apocalypse. I'd wager most teams go 4/8 on the 1st round guys being top4/top9 (could be 5 with Othmann).
Last 4 Tampa Bay Lightning 1st rounders: Brett Howden (lol), Cal Foote (7th D), Nolan Foote (bust), Isaac Howard (still unsigned, had a great year). You can do this with any organization.
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I want General Practitioner to show up that smug, gum-chewing, salad-endorsing French imbecile.
effen
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It's all random. Every team uses the same good hockey men from Moose Anus, Saskatchewan for dev. Or maybe some USNTP guy from Four Thousand Lakes, MN. Hockey is still played on a 200x85 rink.
If it wasn't hugely random, guys wouldn't "get it" sometimes, and other guys wouldn't fade after good starts to their careers, and certainly nobody in the 6th round would ever pan out. You can't worry about these things.
LMAO moose anus. Even if you think it’s poor luck it’s objectively true that NYR have gotten less out of these picks than every team in the league the last decade. From Buchnevich to Jones they didn’t have a non 1st round pick play 20 games for the team. No other team was worse in that span. Cuylle is the first regular since Buch.
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