Draft R1 #23: New York Rangers Select RW Gabriel Perreault (Boston College, NCAA)

[Machinehead]

Not really looking to burn a year of Gabe's ELC so he can play 6 minutes with Juuso Parssinen.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t negotiate burning this year as part of his signing

All the big college FA do it

 

[McRanger92]

Sign him and play him. The only downside is he because a UFA in 7 years instead of 8 years? Thats a non-factor to me. If he is a good player the Rangers will keep him around regardless of his contract demands or status. He can always go down to Hartford next year if he's not fully ready.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Sign him and play him. The only downside is he because a UFA in 7 years instead of 8 years? Thats a non-factor to me. If he is a good player the Rangers will keep him around regardless of his contract demands or status. He can always go down to Hartford next year if he's not fully ready.

No the downside is the post above yours.

Loveallthevets won’t play him while they’re still
“In it.”

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Sign him and play him. The only downside is he because a UFA in 7 years instead of 8 years? Thats a non-factor to me. If he is a good player the Rangers will keep him around regardless of his contract demands or status. He can always go down to Hartford next year if he's not fully ready.

I couldn't care about 7 or 8 years to UFA (ok well i do a little), but what I don't want is him getting any sniff of this country club shit. Drury will clean house this offseason and he can come in next September and play in the NHL, or play a few months in the AHL to adjust, both are ok.

 

[NYR Viper]

Sign him and tell Laviolette not to play him. Then fire Laviolette in the offseason and blame him. 2-birds

 

[Fitzy]

Sign him and play him. The only downside is he because a UFA in 7 years instead of 8 years? Thats a non-factor to me. If he is a good player the Rangers will keep him around regardless of his contract demands or status. He can always go down to Hartford next year if he's not fully ready.

It all adds up when you're putting a competitor together. Good teams need serious production from players on ELCs and non arbitration undermarket RFA contracts.

You don't want to piss off GP sure, but every little bit counts. It's why people ask me why I complained that Borgen got 1 million more than I wanted (And Igor 1.5 mil more) because 1 million isn't enough for a player- if you make the same error multiple times, it adds up.

 

[McRanger92]

No the downside is the post above yours.

Loveallthevets won’t play him while they’re still
“In it.”

Why is everyone so certain of that? They threw Kreider into Game 5 of the 1st round when he signed his ELC. I also remember Zac Jones playing the last 5 or so games in 20-21 after he signed. If they sign him and dont play him that idiotic, but I think he's gonna play Thursday if he signs today.

 

[Machinehead]

Why is everyone so certain of that? They threw Kreider into Game 5 of the 1st round when he signed his ELC. I also remember Zac Jones playing the last 5 or so games in 20-21 after he signed. If they sign him and dont play him that idiotic, but I think he's gonna play Thursday if he signs today.

Yes, he's gonna play Thursday. For six minutes.

"Why is everyone so certain of that?"

Have you met the Rangers?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Why is everyone so certain of that? They threw Kreider into Game 5 of the 1st round when he signed his ELC. I also remember Zac Jones playing the last 5 or so games in 20-21 after he signed. If they sign him and dont play him that idiotic, but I think he's gonna play Thursday if he signs today.

Kreider was much bigger, faster and stronger than Gabe is and could easily handle the NHL, additionally we had a decent team then and were projected to go far in the playoffs so adding him to even further push the team was great.

Not a knock on Gabe, but that isn't his game. He will likely enter the NHL like Derek Stepan did and fit in like a glove just on hockey smarts alone.

We are a dumpster fire right now, even if we sneak into the playoffs we are getting blown out in the first round.

It's useless to waste a year of his ELC for that.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Gabe shouldn't play this year, waste of a year and he won't get proper minutes into the lineup anyway

 

[Machinehead]

Kreider was much bigger, faster and stronger than Gabe is and could easily handle the NHL, additionally we had a decent team then and were projected to go far in the playoffs so adding him to even further push the team was great.

Not a knock on Gabe, but that isn't his game. He will likely enter the NHL like Derek Stepan did and fit in like a glove just on hockey smarts alone.

We are a dumpster fire right now, even if we sneak into the playoffs we are getting blown out in the first round.

It's useless to waste a year of his ELC for that.

The guy that threw Kreider in was the last coach we had with any balls.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kreider got played by a different coach.

Lavi has done nothing but overplay vets this year and has looked for every excuse to do so.

He was this way in Washington too.

 

[SA16]

It all adds up when you're putting a competitor together. Good teams need serious production from players on ELCs and non arbitration undermarket RFA contracts.

You don't want to piss off GP sure, but every little bit counts. It's why people ask me why I complained that Borgen got 1 million more than I wanted (And Igor 1.5 mil more) because 1 million isn't enough for a player- if you make the same error multiple times, it adds up.

But if they burn a year of his ELC his second contract is likely to be less than it would be if they did not. The cap will be lower in 2 years than it will be in 3 years and his production after two years likely won't be as good as his production after 3 years.

 

[Fitzy]

But if they burn a year of his ELC his second contract is likely to be less than it would be if they did not. The cap will be lower in 2 years than it will be in 3 years and his production after two years likely won't be as good as his production after 3 years.

Sure, solid point, but I'd be shocked if this team isn't rebuilding by midway through Gabe's second contract. It's the next 3-4 years that are supposed to be the big ones if the read from the JT Miller trade was an accurate insight into Drury's 'strategy'

 

[McRanger92]

Kreider was much bigger, faster and stronger than Gabe is and could easily handle the NHL, additionally we had a decent team then and were projected to go far in the playoffs so adding him to even further push the team was great.

Not a knock on Gabe, but that isn't his game. He will likely enter the NHL like Derek Stepan did and fit in like a glove just on hockey smarts alone.

We are a dumpster fire right now, even if we sneak into the playoffs we are getting blown out in the first round.

It's useless to waste a year of his ELC for that.

I dont think negativity about the outcome of the season should have anything to do with this. If a good thing to get young players playing in meaningful games with their teammates early on. His skillset is what we need. I can't believe Im saying this but Id make him the last RW on the Zibanejad-Kreider line.

 

[Kodiak]

Sign the kid even if you burn a year of his ELC. Don’t play with fire

It's exactly what killed the relationship between the Flyers and Cutter Gauthier. Chuck Fletcher drafted Gauthier and made a verbal promise that when he signs, they would burn a year of the ELC. Fletcher gets fired, and then Danny Briere comes in and tells Gauthier that he doesn't want to do that. So Gauthier goes back to BC for another year and requests a trade. The Flyers spend a year trying to get him to change his mind, and then launch a BS smear campaign against the kid when they finally do trade him (for Jamie Drysdale, an offensive dman who put up 19 points in 63 games last year). That's a huge loss for the Flyers.

So while it would be a bit better for the Rangers if Perrault's ELC starts next year, I say just get the kid signed and officially in the organization. Burn the year if it becomes a point of contention in the negotiations. One year of the ELC is not worth potentially souring the relationship.

 

[Machinehead]

I dont think negativity about the outcome of the season should have anything to do with this. If a good thing to get young players playing in meaningful games with their teammates early on. His skillset is what we need. I can't believe Im saying this but Id make him the last RW on the Zibanejad-Kreider line.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there!

I just think, sometimes, you have to know who your coach is and just hope the team avoids throwing a guy into his teeth.

 

[McRanger92]

I don't necessarily disagree with you there!

I just think, sometimes, you have to know who your coach is and just hope the team avoids throwing a guy into his teeth.

Even so, I dont think playing less than 10 minutes in the last 7-8 games is going to hurt anybody. The first year burn on the ELC is really a non-issue to me, especially if it's something the player wants.

 

[GAGLine]

Sign him and play him. The only downside is he because a UFA in 7 years instead of 8 years? Thats a non-factor to me. If he is a good player the Rangers will keep him around regardless of his contract demands or status. He can always go down to Hartford next year if he's not fully ready.

Burning a year won't make a difference regarding when he is a UFA.

 

[McRanger92]

Burning a year won't make a difference regarding when he is a UFA.

Even better

 

[archanfelnsx]

If he burns a year on his ELC, just lower his performance bonuses to offset. If he is a decent player when his ELC is up, he will get signed regardless. Signing him to his next contract earlier is better because of the way the cap is going up. Don’t have angry prospects in your organization like Vitaly Kravtsov and Lias Andersson.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t negotiate burning this year as part of his signing

All the big college FA do it

This. If / when he signs shortly it will include finishing out the year at the NHL level. Whether he plays or not depends on where the NYR are in their "playoff push".

And pretty big eyeroll at anyone dragging Perrault or Leonard for not being "big game players." They've produced in just about every elimination game of their careers. BC was a one line team with no depth scoring since Jellvik went down. That (admittedly, amazing) goal Stiga scored yesterday was the most impactful contribution he made in weeks.

Now that said, as I've mentioned before with GP, his is going to need time to adjust to creating when space is harder to come by at the next level. Last night was a master class defensively by Denver taking away time and space in the ozone, and the transition game, and GP was less effective than usual. That said he still created several chances. He wasn't a ghost by any means.

 

[McRanger92]

Any chance Fortescue signs?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Any chance Fortescue signs?

I put it at 40%. There is a chance, but i think it will be better for him to stay another year. Defenseman usually need more time, let him play 24 minutes a game next year and be the go to guy on D.