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Rumor: R&P Thread | Oilers Sign G Samuel Jonsson (3-Years ELC), RW Quinn Hutson (2-Years, $875k AAV), LD Atro Leppanen (1-Year, $975k)

Mcnotloilersfan said:
Stop trading O'Rielly. The more people I talk to in the O, the more I realize how much of a gem we have here. This is the C we've always wanted in the 2/3 role. I'd trade Savoie 1000x over befoe I trade O'Rielly
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I easily trade Savoie before I trade Orielly. I wouldn’t be shocked if Orielly becomes an NHL regular before Savoie as well
 
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We got room for Marner, Ekblad and Gibson if we trade Bouchard, Stuart, Kane, Arvid and Henrique. Bouchard on his own will net us a ton of assets.

RNH(5.125)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Pod(1)-Drai(14)-Marner(11)
Perry(1)-Tomasek(1.2)-Savoie(0.9)
Janmark(1.5)-Philp(0.8)-Brown(1)
Hutson(0.9)

Ekholm(6)-Ekblad(8)
Nurse(9.25)-Walman(3.4)
Kulak(2.7)-Emberson(1.3)
Stecher(0.8)

Gibson(4.5) 30% retention
Pickard(1)
Deadcap(2.3)

95.67M
 
Canovin said:
We got room for Marner, Ekblad and Gibson if we trade Bouchard, Stuart, Kane, Arvid and Henrique. Bouchard on his own will net us a ton of assets.

RNH(5.125)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Pod(1)-Drai(14)-Marner(11)
Perry(1)-Tomasek(1.2)-Savoie(0.9)
Janmark(1.5)-Philp(0.8)-Brown(1)
Hutson(0.9)

Ekholm(6)-Ekblad(8)
Nurse(9.25)-Walman(3.4)
Kulak(2.7)-Emberson(1.3)
Stecher(0.8)

Gibson(4.5) 30% retention
Pickard(1)
Deadcap(2.3)

95.67M
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Oof that's a slow pairing.
 
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Canovin said:
Probably the cheapest Swayman is ever going to cost. He's the closest to Carey Price of this generation. Yes Price had bad seasons before he broke out in 2010
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I'm not a fan of going for a high cap goalie, but I fully admit I am no good at evaluating goalies either. I am strictly against Swayman because of his contract and how it could blow up on us and frankly, this team is good enough to win with average or slightly above goaltending imo. So I don't see the need in paying big money and assets going for the homerun type trade, I prefer a lower cost and less commitment in a Gibson type move. That said, im curious where you get the Price comparable from?

Price was 22 in 2010 and only had a .905 season as his "bad" one. Swayman is 26. Also they were drafted rounds 1 and 4. Honestly outside of this year, Swayman probably has better numbers at this stage of their careers, but he has played on some good teams and different leagues entirely coming up. If their playstyle is where you see similarities, what are they? Again, I'm mostly just a by the numbers and highlights guy with goaltending outside of our team, so I'm genuinely curious.
 
Jarvi said:
I'm not a fan of going for a high cap goalie, but I fully admit I am no good at evaluating goalies either. I am strictly against Swayman because of his contract and how it could blow up on us and frankly, this team is good enough to win with average or slightly above goaltending imo. So I don't see the need in paying big money and assets going for the homerun type trade, I prefer a lower cost and less commitment in a Gibson type move. That said, im curious where you get the Price comparable from?

Price was 22 in 2010 and only had a .905 season as his "bad" one. Swayman is 26. Also they were drafted rounds 1 and 4. Honestly outside of this year, Swayman probably has better numbers at this stage of their careers, but he has played on some good teams and different leagues entirely coming up. If their playstyle is where you see similarities, what are they? Again, I'm mostly just a by the numbers and highlights guy with goaltending outside of our team, so I'm genuinely curious.
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I'm usually against going after a high cap goalie. But Swayman seems pretty safe to rebound as the Oilers are a good team and the cap is rising sky high. 95M, 104M and 114M.

8.25M will feel like 5M in 3 years
 
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Canovin said:
I'm usually against going after a high cap goalie. But Swayman seems pretty safe to rebound as the Oilers are a good team and the cap is rising sky high. 95M, 104M and 114M.

8.25M will feel like 5M in 3 years
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Probably less likely, but if we're going for a goalie in that range, I would have Sorokin as my #1 target.
 
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Canovin said:
We got room for Marner, Ekblad and Gibson if we trade Bouchard, Stuart, Kane, Arvid and Henrique. Bouchard on his own will net us a ton of assets.

RNH(5.125)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Pod(1)-Drai(14)-Marner(11)
Perry(1)-Tomasek(1.2)-Savoie(0.9)
Janmark(1.5)-Philp(0.8)-Brown(1)
Hutson(0.9)

Ekholm(6)-Ekblad(8)
Nurse(9.25)-Walman(3.4)
Kulak(2.7)-Emberson(1.3)
Stecher(0.8)

Gibson(4.5) 30% retention
Pickard(1)
Deadcap(2.3)

95.67M
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I think you need to pony up for 50% retention on Gibson, no matter what. Keep tending as cheap as possible in case he sucks here. I also think you need to go above 12 for Marner to come here, and don't think Brownie re-signs for 1m.

Giving up Bouchard to sign Ekblad for 8m seems like a move right out of summer 2024. I don't mind Ekblad, but he has had injury issues and is obviously a downgrade offensively on Bouch. If we're trading Bouchard, it's probably because his play doesn't pick up these playoffs. If that's the case, his value is so much lower than last offseason. Teams will disregard his points due to McDrai and point to his defensive gaffs. Just feels a lot like selling low, only to target a guy with some concerns, who also already has a cup, which he wouldn't be the first guy to fall off in his early 30's after signing a big deal because that drive isn't quite the same as it used to be due to already having his name on the cup.

I do like consolidating some of our 3-4-5m dollar vets into Marner, though I'm not a fan of that bottom 6. Too much inexperience especially at C in all of Tomasek, Savoie, Philp and Hutson.

If you can bridge Bouch at 6-7.5, which is around the same cap% as Nurses second bridge, that gives you a little extra flexibility on the fwds. If Bouchard is even average these playoffs, I think that's the move rather than turfing 3 roster fwds AND our top pairing RHD. If he is brutal, you really need to not get screwed on a trade, and if he is great, keep him and make it work.
 
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Jarvi said:
I think you need to pony up for 50% retention on Gibson, no matter what. Keep tending as cheap as possible in case he sucks here. I also think you need to go above 12 for Marner to come here, and don't think Brownie re-signs for 1m.

Giving up Bouchard to sign Ekblad for 8m seems like a move right out of summer 2024. I don't mind Ekblad, but he has had injury issues and is obviously a downgrade offensively on Bouch. If we're trading Bouchard, it's probably because his play doesn't pick up these playoffs. If that's the case, his value is so much lower than last offseason. Teams will disregard his points due to McDrai and point to his defensive gaffs. Just feels a lot like selling low, only to target a guy with some concerns, who also already has a cup, which he wouldn't be the first guy to fall off in his early 30's after signing a big deal because that drive isn't quite the same as it used to be due to already having his name on the cup.

I do like consolidating some of our 3-4-5m dollar vets into Marner, though I'm not a fan of that bottom 6. Too much inexperience especially at C in all of Tomasek, Savoie, Philp and Hutson.

If you can bridge Bouch at 6-7.5, which is around the same cap% as Nurses second bridge, that gives you a little extra flexibility on the fwds. If Bouchard is even average these playoffs, I think that's the move rather than turfing 3 roster fwds AND our top pairing RHD. If he is brutal, you really need to not get screwed on a trade, and if he is great, keep him and make it work.
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Ekblad and Walman are interchangeable. Depending who works better with Ekholm/Nurse. The bottom 6 is experienced going into the season and can be fixed at the trade deadline and that's where the assets from the Bouchard trade will come in handy. The most important thing is we have our #1 goalie in Gibson. McDrai, elite winger in Marner and 4 x top 4 D in Ekholm, Ekblad, Nurse and Walman.
 
xxxx Mcdavid Hyman
xxxx Leon Savoie
xxxx xxxx xxxx
Podkolzin xxxx xxxx

Ekholm xxxx
Nurse Walman
Kulak Emberson and Klingberg (if cheap)

A real goalie
Picard

Arvy
Henrique
Janmark
Kane
Philip
Perry
Nuge
Kane
Some stay. Some go

As bad as this looks this should be the approach in the offseason. At this point I'd seriously consider buying out Nuge and keeping Kane. Hoping the FA market and our European signings are nice to us.

Our season is over so somebody take a stab at this
 
I noticed in the video where NHL players were asked which athlete they would like to be for a day. McDavid said Tom Brady with all his championships. So how did Brady get those championships? By taking a serious discount. It would not surprise me if he left a chunk of money on the table next time around
 
Lay Z Boy GM said:
If I’m McDavid I’d sign, but I would make the org sweat. Just tell them to fix the goaltending, fix the team in general and then I’ll sign. Don’t just hand them another 8 years. I’m sure by preseason we’d have a better starting goaltender.
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I think we're going to see a big name goalie acquired before July 1st. One of Gibson or Saros with Skinner+ going the other way.
 
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