Quinn Hughes vs Cale Makar: 2023 Edition

Who is the better player this season?

  • Quinn Hughes

    Votes: 116 60.7%
  • Cale Makar

    Votes: 75 39.3%

  • Total voters
    191
  • Poll closed .

Coffee

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This thread is a year old and people commenting like it was posted yesterday lol
Same thing happened with Ovi and Crosby during the first decade and less but still during the second decade.

It’s just how these things go
 

lionsDen

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This thread is a year old and people commenting like it was posted yesterday lol
Welcome to Cale makar vs Hughes where every year the canucks fan base move the goal posts on why Hughes is a better damn…. POG vs games played,Total points, higher can’t play defense, makar can’t play defense and it never ends… one thing people don’t adjust for just how ungodly bad the goaltending is and why that affects Cale makar.
 
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Coffee

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Welcome to Cale makar vs Hughes where every year the canucks fan base move the goal posts on why Hughes is a better damn…. POG vs games played,Total points, higher can’t play defense, makar can’t play defense and it never ends… one thing people don’t adjust for just how ungodly bad the goaltending is and why that affects Cale makar.
Wow.

All I can say is I hope no one reads the last couple of pages on this thread for your sake

You’re making things up, simple as that.
 

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hughes has been compared to makar for each of the last 6 seasons. one season hughes had a better year and now canuck fans want to act like hughes and makar are now equals. nope, come back with another major award or two to even have that conversation.

What is the discussion though? If we're talking about better player, Hughes has taken over since last year every so slightly. Looking at their careers, it's definitely Makar.
 

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Welcome to Cale makar vs Hughes where every year the canucks fan base move the goal posts on why Hughes is a better damn…. POG vs games played,Total points, higher can’t play defense, makar can’t play defense and it never ends… one thing people don’t adjust for just how ungodly bad the goaltending is and why that affects Cale makar.

Welcome to Cale Makar vs Quinn Hughes, where every year the Avalanche fan base still act like it's 2022, this thread is about 2023-now.

Arguments change over time because their careers aren't over yet. That's not the goalposts moving, it's player stats changing in real time. Also, goaltending doesn't affect possession stats, nobody is out here bringing up +/-.
 

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Wow.

All I can say is I hope no one reads the last couple of pages on this thread for your sake

You’re making things up, simple as that.
I’m fine with it, exactly what am I making up? At least the post above acknowledged that the arguments have changed.

Welcome to Cale Makar vs Quinn Hughes, where every year the Avalanche fan base still act like it's 2022, this thread is about 2023-now.

Arguments change over time because their careers aren't over yet. That's not the goalposts moving, it's player stats changing in real time. Also, goaltending doesn't affect possession stats, nobody is out here bringing up +/-.
Did you think maybe Cale has suffered because the avalanche goaltending has been epically bad? His offense sure seems better then hughes
 
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I’m fine with it, exactly what am I making up? At least the post above acknowledged that the arguments have changed.


Did you think maybe Cale has suffered because the avalanche goaltending has been epically bad? His offense sure seems better then hughes
Don't you think its possible that the goal tending looks bad because the defense in front of him is bad? AV fans sure sound a lot like Oiler fans right now.
 

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The Canucks' Vezina finalist goaltender has been injured since May and played 0 games since then.

I don't hear them complaining about goaltending hurting Hughes despite playing a rookie and a goaltender making the vet minimum for the past 7 months.
 
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Welcome to Cale makar vs Hughes where every year the canucks fan base move the goal posts on why Hughes is a better damn…. POG vs games played,Total points, higher can’t play defense, makar can’t play defense and it never ends… one thing people don’t adjust for just how ungodly bad the goaltending is and why that affects Cale makar.
Only fan here moving goal posts if you my good sir :laugh:
 

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Did you think maybe Cale has suffered because the avalanche goaltending has been epically bad? His offense sure seems better then hughes

I did think about that!

It doesn't though, Makar's possession stats are unaffected by actual goals against. As for offense, yeah he's better than Hughes, but Hughes is miles better defensively.

Makar also suffers both offensively and defensively when MacKinnon isn't on the ice, like below 40% in the major stats, while Hughes controls play at an elite level regardless of his linemates.
 

dirtydanglez

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The Canucks' Vezina finalist goaltender has been injured since May and played 0 games since then.

I don't hear them complaining about goaltending hurting Hughes despite playing a rookie and a goaltender making the vet minimum for the past 7 months.
annunen - .881
georgiev - .863

not the same at all.
 

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