Proposal: Q Hughes plus for Danault Clarke plus

[Boss Man Hughes]

Any kings fan saying no is hilariously homer. Quinn Hughes is a top 2 defenseman In the game and you’re worried about trading brandt Clarke who got benched several times this season? Lmao.

And Danault who does nothing for the Canucks. But Clarke and Greentree and draft picks would be an overpay unless Hughes is willing to extend with Kings. Even then it's probably too much.

 

[Kurrilino]

Any kings fan saying no is hilariously homer. Quinn Hughes is a top 2 defenseman In the game and you’re worried about trading brandt Clarke who got benched several times this season? Lmao.

Your point of perception is slightly wrong.
Yes, Hughes is a top 2 defender on the Vancouver roster, that is correct.
But you could say this for the hot dog salesman from section 318 as well.

The Kings fans do the same with Kopitar, they talk about top line and other nonsense.

 

[me2]

LA just doesn't have the depth of assets required to afford Hughes and remain competitive. No point having Hughes if you get the team to get him.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Any kings fan saying no is hilariously homer. Quinn Hughes is a top 2 defenseman In the game and you’re worried about trading brandt Clarke who got benched several times this season? Lmao.

He only wants to play with his brothers. Diminished value! LA needs a complete tear down and rebuild around youth.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

The whole Canucks organization combined won't fetch Byfield.

Beside that i agree, this trade is not happening

Imagine being so delusional you think byfield is off limits in a quinn hughes trade. Gotta keep that 50 pt centerman in the lineup guys hes gotta truly break out one of these years, right?

 

[Garbageyuk]

To LA: Quinn Hughes

To VAN: Byfield, Clarke/Greentree, 1st round pick

 

[KingsOfCali25]

To LA: Quinn Hughes

To VAN: Byfield, Clarke/Greentree, 1st round pick

LA has done some horrible trades in the past (PLD, Fiala) but it won't be trading for 2 years of Hughes. LA's management has said they are building around Byfield, Clarke and Laferrier, so those guys aren't being dealt. LA has one year of Kopitar left and two years of Doughty. What happens when those guys go and they make a ridiculous trade for Hughes who will walk in UFA because LA won't have a team. The three assets asked for are the least likely to move off of LA.

So if they make a trade like this then they are massively helping Vancouver's rebuild/retool and LA would have to rebuild in two years. Is there no common sense on this board anymore?

What if this was opposite when the Sedin's were in their last years and Doughty was at his best and I'm asking for Pettersson, Hughes, you're top prospect and a 1st. I highly doubt Vancouver fans would had said yes.

 

[Garbageyuk]

LA has done some horrible trades in the past (PLD, Fiala) but it won't be trading for 2 years of Hughes. LA's management has said they are building around Byfield, Clarke and Laferrier, so those guys aren't being dealt. LA has one year of Kopitar left and two years of Doughty. What happens when those guys go and they make a ridiculous trade for Hughes who will walk in UFA because LA won't have a team. The three assets asked for are the least likely to move off of LA.

So if they make a trade like this then they are massively helping Vancouver's rebuild/retool and LA would have to rebuild in two years. Is there no common sense on this board anymore?

What if this was opposite when the Sedin's were in their last years and Doughty was at his best and I'm asking for Pettersson, Hughes, you're top prospect and a 1st. I highly doubt Vancouver fans would had said yes.

First, you might not like it or want to do it, but that’s what it would take to acquire Hughes. He’s at worst the 3rd best D in the league, maybe the best. The cost to acquire that is going to be insane, 2 years left or not. If this trade went through, LA would instantly be a better team. Byfield was 2nd line calibre this year, Clarke 2nd pairing calibre at best, and Greentree isn’t on the team yet. The arguable best D in the game has a bigger impact than the three pieces LA would be giving up.

Second, “massively helping Vancouver’s rebuild/retool” would be them being able to keep Hughes. The only reason this is being talked about at all is because people think Hughes might want to leave.

Lastly, you are looking at that hypothetical Doughty proposal through the lense of hindsight. If LA were to have shopped Doughty at or near his peak, that’s the kind of packages they would have gotten, yes. But in this particular case, it doesn’t make sense because Doughty had started to decline already by the time VAN had drafted both Pettersson and Hughes.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

First, you might not like it or want to do it, but that’s what it would take to acquire Hughes. He’s at worst the 3rd best D in the league, maybe the best. The cost to acquire that is going to be insane, 2 years left or not. If this trade went through, LA would instantly be a better team. Byfield was 2nd line calibre this year, Clarke 2nd pairing calibre at best, and Greentree isn’t on the team yet. The arguable best D in the game has a bigger impact than the three pieces LA would be giving up.

Second, “massively helping Vancouver’s rebuild/retool” would be them being able to keep Hughes. The only reason this is being talked about at all is because people think Hughes might want to leave.

Lastly, you are looking at that hypothetical Doughty proposal through the lense of hindsight. If LA were to have shopped Doughty at or near his peak, that’s the kind of packages they would have gotten, yes. But in this particular case, it doesn’t make sense because Doughty had started to decline already by the time VAN had drafted both Pettersson and Hughes.

First, while Hughes is great, no LA fan has asked for Hughes in a trade. Vancouver and other fans have made this proposal. LA is not looking to gut their team for Hughes. Also, losing Byfield and Clarke is losing two major holes to the team now and in the future. There is nothing in the pipeline that will replace Byfield.

Second, Hughes wants to go to New Jersey to play with his brothers. Why would anyone want to trade for Hughes when he has told the world his plan.

Lastly, Doughty was definitely in his prime during the draft. Doughty won his Norris trophy the year before Pettersson was drafted, was a Norris finalist for the 3rd year in a row and high had the highest average time on the ice for all players. So he wasn't past his prime at all.

But this is all for not because Vancouver would be dumb to trade Hughes unless he wants out (which is a major possibility) and LA would be even more stupid to pay any price for the guy.

 

[Garbageyuk]

First, while Hughes is great, no LA fan has asked for Hughes in a trade. Vancouver and other fans have made this proposal. LA is not looking to gut their team for Hughes. Also, losing Byfield and Clarke is losing two major holes to the team now and in the future. There is nothing in the pipeline that will replace Byfield.

Second, Hughes wants to go to New Jersey to play with his brothers. Why would anyone want to trade for Hughes when he has told the world his plan.

Lastly, Doughty was definitely in his prime during the draft. Doughty won his Norris trophy the year before Pettersson was drafted, was a Norris finalist for the 3rd year in a row and high had the highest average time on the ice for all players. So he wasn't past his prime at all.

But this is all for not because Vancouver would be dumb to trade Hughes unless he wants out (which is a major possibility) and LA would be even more stupid to pay any price for the guy.

This post was all for naught because I already covered your sentiment. Like I said, you might not like it or want to do it, but that’s what Hughes would cost, and he would make LA a better team right now. And I never said all LA fans would want the trade. Also, it doesn’t matter if Doughty was in his prime when Pettersson was drafted. The package you suggested was Pettersson AND Hughes. By the time VAN had BOTH, Doughty was in decline.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Hughes+ for danault+ is an interesting frame work where Vancouver gets a center



What cap space do they have?

Buffalo will not trade Power for Wilander+ futures

According to Puckpedia the Kings have roughly 23.3M cap space to work with this summer with Gavrikov and Laferriere being the only key guys losing contracts, depending on how you view Kuzmenko I guess.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

No GM is sending a huge package out for Hughes if he is just going to Jersey when he hits UFA.

Quinn won't be traded because he will re-sign next summer.

All this talk has literally come from a comment made by JR that he's already said was taken way out of context.
I have no doubt the three will one day play together but that will be near the end of their careers because star players, especially captains almost always stay with the club that drafted them in this situation.

 

[Guitpik]

Imagine being so delusional you think byfield is off limits in a quinn hughes trade. Gotta keep that 50 pt centerman in the lineup guys hes gotta truly break out one of these years, right?

Imagine being so delusional to think any team would actually trade their upcoming 1C for a defenseman that most likely won’t resign with them.

 

[Vergil]

Byfield, Clarke, 1st, prospect.

For a two year rental? Lmao.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Any potential trade involving Hughes with the Kings starts with Byfield+

There's no conversation or discussion otherwise. And I completely get why LA wouldn't want to trade him plus one of their top end prospects. So it's just not a deal that happens.

LA would be stupid not to trade Byfield, Clarke, + for Hughes .

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Hughes may want to play with his brothers, but that doesn't necessarily have to be in New Jersey.

 

[Guitpik]

LA would be stupid not to trade Byfield, Clarke, + for Hughes .

Okay, the Kings trade Byfield, now they have a huge hole at center. They need a center and the first round pick much more than they need the defenseman.

They need to build around the youth already on the team, not subtract from that for one player. Kings would be stupid to make that trade. There are other teams out there better positioned as a trade partner for Quinn.

 

[wetcoast]

An elite 3rd line shutdown center, an NHL-ready top RHD prospect with projectable top pairing potential who looked good in the LAK top 4 during the playoffs, an above-average 3rd line LW, one of the best under-20 RW prospects league-wide, a 1st round pick, and over $2 million in cap space. In exchange for 2 years of Quinn Hughes and two average 3rd liners who are probably better suited as very good 4th liners on a cup winner.

Danault is aging pretty fast though and it still leaves the VCanucks without a 2nd line center (Chytil isn't the answer).

I like Greentree quite a bit but this is Quinn Hughes, who has basically played on a Makar type level over the last 2 years.

First rounder this year around 20ish not that great and even if it's a 26 first rounder still don't even counter.

Moore is a decent player and contract and Clarke might turn out to be Evan Bouchard light but the biggest problem here is that Hughes is such an elite player and this isn't changing the course for the Canucks, although it might for LA and that's why it's a bad deal.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Brutal for Vancouver.

 

[Doublechin]

Horrendous

Clarke is not looking like a future top pairing Dman, too many brain farts, Greentree is too slow for the NHL and that's a big knock on his game.

A solid return in most cases but for Hughes, not interesting at all, Danault isn't something I'm looking for if I'm Vancouver and I'm trading Hughes, he'd be way more appealing for a contender like Colorado.

I agree with most posts, it would start with Byfield and then you can add Clarke, Greentree and picks or a combo

 

[kingpest19]

Dude Quinn Hughes is top dawg, franchise D, Norris winning dman. Its like trading Gretzky for bag of pucks. Hughes is the general manager in Vancouver, thats how big he is here. You trading him for that package is an insult to Canucks nevermind you add out great 3rd line center in Blueger who is our top PKer and FO guy plus Hoglander who has lots of potential and scored 24 goals last year and a play driver. Clarke is way overrated based on this offer.

Not to mention you overhype the hell out of the kings players. Suoer elite top of the line shutdown 3rd liner that couldnt shut down anything in Oilers series for 4th time. Abover average 3rd line LW Then you call Hoglander and Blueger some trash 4th liners. Cmon, at least be a bit objective. Canucks also have lots of middle 6 players that are much better than Kings, they dont need kings 3rd liners. We have Joshua, Garland, Suter, Connor, Sherwood, Hoglander, Raty...all middle 6 forwards that are better quality than whatever the kings can offer. Adding 2 or 3 more middle 6 forwards to that group does absolutely nothing for Canucks.

NJD fans accept the offer of Hughes for Mercer, Nemec and Casey.

Similar trade for Kings would be Byfield, Clarke and Moore

Danault was on the ice for less than 1gpg and was a plus player, pretty safe to say he did his job.