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Proposal: Q Byfield + for Elias Petterson EP40

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LA has already said they are going to be making a lot of changes.

Would a trade of Byfield for EP40 make sense for both teams?

- LA needs more offence. They are also in a win now mode as Kopitar and Doughty are reaching the twilight of their career. Byfield imo hasnt progressed as fast as LA has hoped especially offensively.

- Despite the disastrous season, Its easy to see an injury free EP40 get back to his 90-100 point seasons. He has history playing on a line with Kempe for the national team and if Kuzemnko re-signs in LA, then his 39 goal season was on the back of EP40 as his centre.

- This might work for Vancouver as it doesnt necessarily signal a rebuild, but it protects them in case Q Hughes walks in 2 years. However, they can find a way to be competitive now as well with Byfield being their 1 or 2c.

- Would free up about 6mil of cap space for Vancouver which would give them 24+ mil of cap space going into free agency. Will allow them to go big game huntin for another C or do it through the trade route as expected.

These 2 players are only 4 years apart. Byfield has the higher floor, but EP40 has a waaaay higher ceiling.

Playoffs: Byfield 12pts in 19 games, EP40 30 pts in 24 games.


Byfield 2nd OA, EP40 5th OA draft pick

I think LA adds another piece to entice Vancouver but I think its something that could be a win win for both teams. Both teams taking a risk as well.
 
Would much rather have Byfield at 6.2 than EP at 11.6, throw in the fact that QB still has a lot of untapped potential and EP seems to be a bit of a headcase I don't think Kings would even consider.

There's nothing to suggest that EP40 is a headache. Even with the JT Miller situation, they were able to co-exist for 5 seasons without it leaking into the public. and when it did last year, it was Miller who needed a 10 games personal leave not EP40.

The only headache EP40 has had with the team is the team didnt like how EP40 handled the off-season last year with his injury. EP40's camp thought that rest would be the best solution for the tendinitis. Canucks obviously did not agree. Other than that, there has been no headaches with EP40 whatsoever.

At almost the same age as Byfield, Ep40 was already scoring 100+ point seasons.

Not that I think Byfield is done developig, I just dont think his ceiling is that high.. Big fast player but doesnt have the dynamic or playmaking prowess to be a point per game, let alone be a 100 point player.

I think LA has enough grit and size and speed but they dont have a gamebreaker like EP40. Kopitar and EP40 down the middle would be deadly.
 
EP's ceiling is much higher - he's already proven the player he can be. With Byfield you are hoping he gets somewhere close to that.

Personally I'd prefer to take the risk with the potential elite player even on that contract then settle for something that doesn't have the same upside. I fully expect that EP40 with a solid offseason is going to be back to an 85 + point guy who's playing Selke level defence. Byfield you are hoping gets somewhere near that......
 
A lot of people are wondering if Byfield will ever put it together but I'd rather have him than EP with that contract.

Sure if you think this season is what EP40 is going to be moving forward.

but if EP40 goes back to being a dominant young centre like many thinks he will, thanks to being injury free.....then EP40 at 11.6 scoring 90+ will be valuable.

If Byfield's ceiling is a 2/3 C then LA wasting their prime time of Kempe, Fiala not to mention the late years of Doughty Kopitar.

Easier to obtain or replace a 60point power forward C than a 90point, goal scoring, 2way C.

Its crazy how fast people forget that from Age 22 on (same age as Byfield) EP40 had 3 straight 30 + goal seasons.
 
Sure if you think this season is what EP40 is going to be moving forward.

but if EP40 goes back to being a dominant young centre like many thinks he will, thanks to being injury free.....then EP40 at 11.6 scoring 90+ will be valuable.

If Byfield's ceiling is a 2/3 C then LA wasting their prime time of Kempe, Fiala not to mention the late years of Doughty Kopitar.

Easier to obtain or replace a 60point power forward C than a 90point, goal scoring, 2way C.

Its crazy how fast people forget that from Age 22 on (same age as Byfield) EP40 had 3 straight 30 + goal seasons.
if byfield ceiling is a 2/3 c then why would you want to trade for him. you know thats not the case.
 
I'd rather trade Kopitar and Doughty like they should have done a decade ago.
Not sure if Holland has it in him to trade one or both aged ones especially if his objective #1 is to make the playoffs next year.
IMO LA already needs a good top 4 RHD. It would be 2 more if Doughty is traded.
 
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There's nothing to suggest that EP40 is a headache. Even with the JT Miller situation, they were able to co-exist for 5 seasons without it leaking into the public. and when it did last year, it was Miller who needed a 10 games personal leave not EP40.

The only headache EP40 has had with the team is the team didnt like how EP40 handled the off-season last year with his injury. EP40's camp thought that rest would be the best solution for the tendinitis. Canucks obviously did not agree. Other than that, there has been no headaches with EP40 whatsoever.

At almost the same age as Byfield, Ep40 was already scoring 100+ point seasons.

Not that I think Byfield is done developig, I just dont think his ceiling is that high.. Big fast player but doesnt have the dynamic or playmaking prowess to be a point per game, let alone be a 100 point player.

I think LA has enough grit and size and speed but they dont have a gamebreaker like EP40. Kopitar and EP40 down the middle would be deadly.
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No hurry to trade Byfield.

I'd be ok taking a risk on EP40. He had a rough year & some injuries. 7 years at 11+. Probably just needs more sun to help with the other issues.
 
It would be a Kings thing to do. Trade for EP, get upset with him after five games for dogging it, and blame them on the fourth line with the freshly re-signed Trevor Lewis.

There is no dine EP’s offensive potential. I’d rather take a chance on Byfield and use that remaining 5.4 million to upgrade another position.

Next year, Kopitar comes off the books and his 7,000,000+ the 5.4 million saved on EP would give the kings a lot of options.
 
Would much rather have Byfield at 6.2 than EP at 11.6, throw in the fact that QB still has a lot of untapped potential and EP seems to be a bit of a headcase I don't think Kings would even consider.
I think the Kings stick with Byfield. Really don’t a realistic trade that would have the Kings moving him
 
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I think the Canuck’s would be foolish to trade EP. He had a bad year which most players go through in their careers. With a full offseason to get healthy and a reset in the locker room I think it’s more than likely EP and the Canucks return to form. I’ve had a bad year myself when I was playing and then had my best year ever the very next season. If EP returns to form on a different team it would be the worst asset management ever. Trading two top line centres without getting one back.
 

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