Putting It All Together-What does Jarmo do now?

[Jackets16]

Wouldn't it be arrogant/foolish to come in here and decide you have to put your own signature on this roster by moving players at the deadline in order to rebuild yet again, when the team just put together the best month of hockey in the history of the franchise?

I think it would be foolish to think that we can play/win like this over an entire season. I love how hard we work, but we lack skill. You can't keep everyone and still add players with skill. Some players are going to have to go to make room for players with more skill. Also, why can't we add players with skill who also play hard?

 

[Jackets16]

I bold Vinny and Letestu, because imo you have to resign these guys if the price is reasonable. Drazenovich and Aucoin I move if I can, or let go if I can't. Looking on to next year. Boll and McKenzie are what they are, 4th line guys that are playing well. I don't see moving these guys to make room for a prospect to play 10 minutes a night. Nikitin on the other hand is a guy I could see moving. He's got some value and we have almost have to make room for the young defenseman that have shown they belong.

Why not move Boll and McKenzie and then move 2 of our 3rd liners down to the 4th line, 2 of our 2nd liners down to 3rd line, etc....? That would make us a better team, IMO, by improving each line. Also, I know some are for keeping Umberger and some are for trading him, but I think you need to trade him. I just do not see him as a part of our future.

 

[CBJ103]

I looked for one on the Jackets site but didn't see a recording of it.

He basically said this is a work in progress, that the team is going to grow, and that we need to add top-line forward talent (Johansen was the only one he mentioned with that upside). He said that Seth Jones had separated himself out as the top guy and after that the Jackets are thinking all about offense. He also said that they likely wouldn't trade for a rental this year at the trade deadline. Mentioned Calvert and Atkinson as doing well. Praised Bobrovsky. Didn't mention Mason except indirectly when asked about the goaltending situation he said the "goaltenders will sort that one out."

To add on, my recollection of what John Davidson said last night was, "We will not trade any valuable assets for a short term or rental player."(direct quote) "Any player we trade for will be one who we see as being part of the long term building of this team. Our focus is still on the long term success of the CBJ." (paraphrase)

Then used the brick by brick expression.

I took this to mean that a minor deal could be done for a rental, but that no one that they view as one of the "bricks" to future success, nor any of the 3 2013 1st round draft picks, would be leaving.

 

[pete goegan]

That's good stuff. How about coaching changes?

Good point, Lee, didn't their ascension take off after a change behind the bench?

 

[Jackets16]

I looked for one on the Jackets site but didn't see a recording of it.

He basically said this is a work in progress, that the team is going to grow, and that we need to add top-line forward talent (Johansen was the only one he mentioned with that upside). He said that Seth Jones had separated himself out as the top guy and after that the Jackets are thinking all about offense. He also said that they likely wouldn't trade for a rental this year at the trade deadline. Mentioned Calvert and Atkinson as doing well. Praised Bobrovsky. Didn't mention Mason except indirectly when asked about the goaltending situation he said the "goaltenders will sort that one out."

Thanks

 

[blahblah]

Should I feign shock that you have misinterpreted what was stated?

After reading your post again, no you shouldn't be surprised - feigned or otherwise.

 

[NotWendell]

Good point, Lee, didn't their ascension take off after a change behind the bench?

Todd Richards > Mike Kitchen
So maybe it's irrelevant?

 

[EspenK]

Even though I was against it, because I wanted him to just stay in one place, didn't Johansen come up after he was hired?

Yes he did!

There, you've hit upon why Jarmo should get the credit and not XGMSH. Plus I doubt Prout would have ben called up and been this productive under SH!.

 

[SuperGenius]

I think it would be foolish to think that we can play/win like this over an entire season. I love how hard we work, but we lack skill. You can't keep everyone and still add players with skill. Some players are going to have to go to make room for players with more skill. Also, why can't we add players with skill who also play hard?

The main issue I see is that these players are not easy to obtain.

Hard work and effort trump many things. IMO, skill is easier to add to hard work than hard work is to skill.

 

[EspenK]

The main issue I see is that these players are not easy to obtain.

Hard work and effort trump many things. IMO, skill is easier to add to hard work than hard work is to skill.

I'm not sure many would agree with you. Take Nash under Hitch, he became a much better player with a bit more hard work. Hard work can produce results but I'm not sure its because of adding skill. In the end I'd rather have a guy who works hard to succeed with a modest amount of talent (Prospal?) rather than a guy with lots of talent who loafs. Think Semin, Nash when he was floating, Gaborik according to Rangers fans, etc. What we need are hard working guys with skill like Toews, Iginla in his prime. One can dream right?

 

[alphafox]

I'm not sure many would agree with you. Take Nash under Hitch, he became a much better player with a bit more hard work. Hard work can produce results but I'm not sure its because of adding skill. In the end I'd rather have a guy who works hard to succeed with a modest amount of talent (Prospal?) rather than a guy with lots of talent who loafs. Think Semin, Nash when he was floating, Gaborik according to Rangers fans, etc. What we need are hard working guys with skill like Toews, Iginla in his prime. One can dream right?

The bolded is the problem. The guys with skill who work hard are the absolute elite of the league. Crosby, Stamkos, Toews, Iginla, Nash (when he's working hard), Pat Kane this year, Datsyuk, etc. The reason you can't just pick these guys up is because they are the superstars of the league.

Pure skill can carry you Ovi, Semin, Carter and you can be a star but the truly elite players are a combo of hard work and skill which is why it is so hard to find them.

 

[Robert]

It's hard to imagine the CBJ playing the rest of the season at an 80% of total points played pace... Getting to .500 is significant but if they make the playoffs a team or two they are chasing will probably have to go on a losing streak... I think the CBJ have a good chance to end up 3 or 4 points above .500 but probably not much more...

Mason is going to start a few games soon I would think, if so his play could be very important to the team’s playoff chances.. I hope he understands the significance of this probable last chance in Columbus to succeed….

 

[db2011]

One thing Jarmo should do is continue to unsettle people with his intense and piercing calmness. I think it's just possible that the Finn is evil. Watching him on NHL Insider from the GM meetings tonight, it's uncanny how he seems to control the minds of his three interviewees. I hope we get to make great sport of imagining absurd things our new GM does in his spare time, like for instance does he practice his Tai Chi in Goodale Park or in his loft? Howson deserves a lot of credit for assembling this team (), but I have no doubt that Jarmo would destroy him in Jai Alai.

(this post brought to you by wine, of a vintage that would never get within sniffing distance to the Kekalainen cellar)

 

[KeithBWhittington]

One thing Jarmo should do is continue to unsettle people with his intense and piercing calmness. I think it's just possible that the Finn is evil. Watching him on NHL Insider from the GM meetings tonight, it's uncanny how he seems to control the minds of his three interviewees. I hope we get to make great sport of imagining absurd things our new GM does in his spare time, like for instance does he practice his Tai Chi in Goodale Park or in his loft? Howson deserves a lot of credit for assembling this team (), but I have no doubt that Jarmo would destroy him in Jai Alai.

(this post brought to you by wine, of a vintage that would never get within sniffing distance to the Kekalainen cellar)

This is what happens when you have well known and universally respected men in positions of power within an organization.

Nothing personal against Mr. Priest and Mr. Howson, but they weren't winning beauty pageants even when they were the new faces in the organization from many outside Columbus.

Track records and experience are good things to have. Especially when your organization thats been this irrelevant needs to fight off the 'Old Boys Club' of the NHL talking heads, etc.


I seriously rolled on the floor laughing when I read the wine line at the end.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

After last nights games

San Jose (W)
Edm (OTL)
Dallas (L)
Detroit (L)
Minn (W)

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Columbus playoff chances: 14.5 +0.4

 

[KeithBWhittington]

After last nights games

San Jose (W)
Edm (OTL)
Dallas (L)
Detroit (L)
Minn (W)

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Columbus playoff chances: 14.5 +0.4

In before someone posted the ridiculous Jim Carey "So you're telling me there's a chance" pic.

 

[Nordique]

No one said anything about the playoffs in and of themselves crippling us. I'm talking about dumb short sighted personnel moves with the goal of making the playoffs that cripple us long term. Jarmo has no reason to do any such moves.

I understand. You are saying JK doesn't have to sell our future to bring a couple veterans in hopes of making the playoffs and saving his job. Its a good point, and that is exactly why I will always give Howson respect, because he didn't do that either...and his job was on the line.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

In before someone posted the ridiculous Jim Carey "So you're telling me there's a chance" pic.

 

[KeithBWhittington]

Wrong Jim Carey....

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Thanks, DSL...that was a coffee snorter...

 

[cbjfaninmo]

....it's uncanny how he seems to control the minds of his three interviewees....

I'm sure he was doing the same thing with all the other GMs. It's all about JMC now...Jarmo Mind Control. These next couple of weeks are going to be a lot of fun. Gotta love hockey!

 

[Sore Loser]

Classic!

... I love Dumb and Dumber, so I have to do it...

 

[EspenK]

I understand. You are saying JK doesn't have to sell our future to bring a couple veterans in hopes of making the playoffs and saving his job. Its a good point, and that is exactly why I will always give Howson respect, because he didn't do that either...and his job was on the line.

When exactly did Howson have the chance?

 

[Robert]

I understand. You are saying JK doesn't have to sell our future to bring a couple veterans in hopes of making the playoffs and saving his job. Its a good point, and that is exactly why I will always give Howson respect, because he didn't do that either...and his job was on the line.

Howson did little if anything the advance the CBJ.... He had five years and the only reason the CBJ made the the playoffs that one season was because of a hot rookie goalie and a Hitchcock defense.....

The true test of an NHL GM is when they hired to be an NHL GM after getting fired... when than happens let me know....

Howson was not that good Nordique.... No better than Doug MacLean.... Just two different types of losers....

 

[db2011]

Howson did little if anything the advance the CBJ.... He had five years and the only reason the CBJ made the the playoffs that one season was because of a hot rookie goalie and a Hitchcock defense.....

The true test of an NHL GM is when they hired to be an NHL GM after getting fired... when than happens let me know....

Howson was not that good Nordique.... No better than than Doug MacLean.... Just two different types of losers....

Let's see how this year finishes. He could put the 2013 Jackets on his resume if it ends like we want it to