Puck Daddy: Team Europe World Cup players frustrated with format
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What a misleading title.
Frustrated? Really?
hmm..yeah, they are so frustrated.
You can easily see that while they would certainly like to play for their own countries (of course, even I would), they are still motivated to win. The title makes it seem like they hate the idea.
Frustrated? Really?
hmm..yeah, they are so frustrated.
You can easily see that while they would certainly like to play for their own countries (of course, even I would), they are still motivated to win. The title makes it seem like they hate the idea.
Fire Sweeney
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Young team a joke, europe team a joke. the whole thing is a joke and we have to hear about this crap for another year. Team Canada scam artists trying to milk more money again.
What would you expect them to say? The NHL and the NHLPA made the World Cup together and these players are all tied to the NHLPA. Most of them probably don't want to cast a shadow over the tournament either with respect for the players on the non-gimmic teams. I'm surprised anyone spoke their minds at all. They all held back though, at least Streit didn't. Kudos to him.
A guy like Anze Kopitar probably looks forward to it, because Slovenia has no chance at all with the tournament being an eight team format. Slovenia would even have trouble to get in with a 12 team format. He even used the word 'selfishly', because he probably realizes the players from Slovakia and Switzerland aren't quite as excited as himself about all this.
give me a break with this argument.
It was the same with Morgan Rielly, a defenceman for the U-23 NA Team, some people said the same thing. But when you look at his another interviews, you can say he's just stating his own mind.
Looks like somebody could use some media literacy lessons.
When people like it, they say they like it.
When people don't like it, but are unsure of the repercussions if they say they don't like it, they straddle the fence.
And all of the players in this piece, save for maybe Kopitar (and Streit), are straddling the fence.
International tournaments should be in the hands of the IIHF. Let the federations run it.
The NHL makes a mockery of the international game.
The NHL makes a mockery of the international game.
That's because Morgan Rielly, just like Kopitar, would have no chance to play for his actual country in this tournament. Of course he is gonna be happy about playing in a big tournament he otherwise wouldn't.
The players from Slovakia and Switzerland are the unhappy ones, but they are not gonna rant over it when they are connected to the NHLPA. It's basically in their contract to play this tournament, as I don't think they could boycott it without consequence. You don't think this matters when players give interviews about this? It's also not a smart thing to talk negatively about the team if you wan't to make the roster... Which lots of players som Slovakia and Switzerland probably does, given the lack of other options.
The players from Slovakia and Switzerland are the unhappy ones, but they are not gonna rant over it when they are connected to the NHLPA. It's basically in their contract to play this tournament, as I don't think they could boycott it without consequence. You don't think this matters when players give interviews about this? It's also not a smart thing to talk negatively about the team if you wan't to make the roster... Which lots of players som Slovakia and Switzerland probably does, given the lack of other options.
in other words, there is no way players like it, no matter what they actually say, right?
No. If they say they like it, in a manner that leaves no room for any other interpretation, they like it. They won't mention negatives if they do.
If somebody mentions negatives, they have reservations. They may go along with it, but won't be behind it 100%.
And in the words of a certain hockey personality... "90% effort means 50% performance".
habsrule4eva3089
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There will be a bigger audience for many events in Rio 2016 then anything this silly tournament will offer for Canadians. That's pretty much a guarentee. Then we can laugh about this some more.
I'm a sports writer and do interviews everyday. When some says something positive about their team, you can't know if they truly mean what they say. If they something negative, you know they mean it.
Today I asked a soccer player if he feels his team is finally digging themselves out of a hole they've been in for a while. Of course I knew somewhat what his answer was gonna be, of course he's not gonna say something negative about his team.
These players are employed by the NHL and 'taken care of' by the NHLPA. It's in their best interest to keep their mouths shut and stick to the positives. Mark Streit is just probably so dissappointed he just doesn't care what he says.
If a newspaper wanted to talk to you about your job, would you go on about how much you hate it or about how annoying your boss is? I think not.
This stands doubly so for the North American media environment. Out there, one can't say anything negative. If one does, at least they'll have to sugar coat it.
Sometimes it may come back and bite you even if you out your feelings after the fact. Just ask Antti Raanta, if you want a recent example.
The fact that the players in this piece dare to say that it won't be the same and wonder what the response back home will be is very telling - because it's a clear deviation from the standard cookie cutter response.
doug88
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Hopefully Swiss players won't take part in that competition. I don't see how I could root for "Team Europe"..
The idea is stupid - all admitted that. But, what's the scam - enlighten us.
Give us the details how we ruthless scamming Canadians are ****ing YOU over!
Why not just pick Slovakia and Switzerland then? It's clear they are the best out of the ''rest''. And in the next World Cup,have qualifiers, so countries like Latvia or Germany can compete for spot.
If NHL managment wanted it to be national teams only, it would be. But they didn't, they wanted money and it's simple, team with Kopitar will be selling more tickets than team with european team's players.
There aren't enough Swiss and Slovak players to compose a full team. There's no IIHF support for this tournament yet.
JackSlater
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It has nothing to do with qualifiers. This tournament has never been played with qualifiers.
There are, they just don't happen to be NHL players. Those countries won't have enough NHLers in 2020 either.
Frank the Tank
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Yes, I much prefer it when the those proven IOC scam artists are in charge. Can't wait for the 2026 Winter Olympics to be held in North Korea because they will be the only regime left that hasn't seen through the charade that has become hosting the Olympics.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-announces-world-cup-of-hockey-for-2016-1.2930670
What part of "No IIHF support yet" didn't you see in my post?
They've already said that nothing prevents Russia, Sweden, Finland or the Czechs from bringing Europe-based players if they so desire. (And all of them save for maybe Sweden will.) IIHF support has nothing to do with it.
JackSlater
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Let's try this again so that you can comprehend...
This tournament has been played before, and it never had qualifiers. Those teams (Slovakia and Switzerland) will still not have enough NHL players in 2020 to have fully NHL teams. This tournament is not exclusive to NHL players. The IIHF does not have to "support" this tournament any more than it already has, as the national federations are already involved.
Well judging by that quote the new version of this tournament seems to have qualifiers to me. And I never said it was NHL exclusive, but it certainly is NHL focused.
And yet, absolutely nothing requires them to have qualifiers. Or did the YoungStarz and Leftovers somehow have to go through a qualification process? Let's repeat, there was nothing that would have prevented them from inviting Slovakia and Switzerland instead of those two mickey mouse teams.
Yet they're calling it an international tournament. "World" = "NHL" now? How... American.
