Value of: Provorov to the Leafs.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With Treliving saying he wants to focus on defense, I hope the guy at the top of his list is Provorov.

I know some will say he's not a fit because he's an offense focused D man, but that's Why he's a fit.

Morgan Reilly is the ONLY guy that can generate offense from the blue, that's one of the reasons,perhaps the biggest reason, and if not it's #2 why they lost to Florida, they can't generate offense from the defense.

They need a Provorov, or a Karlsson to help fix that.

#28 goes without saying obviously that's in the deal where does it go from there?

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[Ledge And Dairy]

Need a guy who can play like 2nd PP while also being solid defensively. Severson would be pretty ideal but there's a good chance he's too expensive.

Fans probably won't be happy but I feel like Matt Dumba may end up in Toronto. Tre has had interest in him before and he's pretty solid defensively. His injuries really set im back in the past few years but I think he could certainly bounce back with a change of scenery

 

[MisterT]

Not a fit.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Need a guy who can play like 2nd PP while also being solid defensively. Severson would be pretty ideal but there's a good chance he's too expensive.

Fans probably won't be happy but I feel like Matt Dumba may end up in Toronto. Tre has had interest in him before and he's pretty solid defensively. His injuries really set im back in the past few years but I think he could certainly bounce back with a change of scenery

Man Matt Dumba is close, VERY close but he misses games,Provorov doesn't miss games.

The Leafs do have a top quality medical staff though.

I don't hate it but I'd rather Provorov

Not a fit.

Based on what? he provides what they need.

 

[The Madrigal]

The Flyers need picks and prospects. The Leafs are lacking both.

 

[Accelleratii]

Provorov is a good defenseman that's played on some lousy Flyers teams. His best year was when he was 2nd on the depth chart, which is about where he'd be on the Leafs blueline. And he won't have as much responsibility in Toronto with Reilly there, which can only help his game. So I don't think it's unfair to ask for 28thOA and Knies for a guy like Provorov.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Man Matt Dumba is close, VERY close but he misses games,Provorov doesn't miss games.

The Leafs do have a top quality medical staff though.

I don't hate it but I'd rather Provorov



Based on what? he provides what they need.

The thing with Provorov is he really needs a steady guy on his pair to get the best out of him. Unless the plan is to pin him to Brodie permanently I don't think he is a good fit IMO. Plus Dumba would be free to acquire and probably costs less than 5M to sign

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The Flyers need picks and prospects. The Leafs are lacking both.

That's not really true, yeah they are lacking mid round picks, but those are easy to get.

But they haven't traded a significant prospect in 4 years, they have 1st round picks in 2023, 2024, top 10 protected in 2025, and they have their 2026, or they will have their 2025 and lose their 2026.

Either way the idea that the Leafs have no picks or prospects needs to die it's simply not real.

 

[FlyguyOX]

He's actually better at D than O

 

[Sinbad]

With Treliving saying he wants to focus on defense, I hope the guy at the top of his list is Provorov.

I know some will say he's not a fit because he's an offense focused D man, but that's Why he's a fit.

Morgan Reilly is the ONLY guy that can generate offense from the blue, that's one of the reasons,perhaps the biggest reason, and if not it's #2 why they lost to Florida, they can't generate offense from the defense.

They need a Provorov, or a Karlsson to help fix that.

#28 goes without saying obviously that's in the deal where does it go from there?

If you’re a sports fan in Toronto, all you have to do is look at the backlash the Blue Jays and Anthony Bass are getting right now to realize why the Leafs would never make this deal.

I definitely don’t think Treliving would want such a controversial acquisition to be the ice breaker for his Toronto GM tenur.

 

[MisterT]

Man Matt Dumba is close, VERY close but he misses games,Provorov doesn't miss games.

The Leafs do have a top quality medical staff though.

I don't hate it but I'd rather Provorov



Based on what? he provides what they need.

They need a strong defensive dman. Until the coaching situation is resolved, you don't change the roster to find pieces that you feel are needed. The Leafs defense has enough offensive talent but Keefe's system doesn't promote it.

 

[ponder719]

They need a strong defensive dman.

Then you should want Provorov. He's very good defensively, a solid puck mover, his primary weakness is he thinks he's better offensively than he is.

 

[57special]

Man Matt Dumba is close, VERY close but he misses games,Provorov doesn't miss games.

The Leafs do have a top quality medical staff though.

I don't hate it but I'd rather Provorov



Based on what? he provides what they need.

Dumba would add some snarl, and though he doesn't score much anymore, he can still skate well and handle the puck decently. Is also much better defensively than he used to be.

One of the main things that he has to offer is that he is a UFA, and not an old one, either. Leafs won't have to give up anything for him but cash, and even then, his AAV should be less than Provorov's.

 

[GCK]

Knies straight up for Provorov.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

The thing with Provorov is he really needs a steady guy on his pair to get the best out of him. Unless the plan is to pin him to Brodie permanently I don't think he is a good fit IMO. Plus Dumba would be free to acquire and probably costs less than 5M to sign

He played his best with Shayne Gostisbehere, who I think is very underrated defensively, but isn't a guy most would call steady. He also played arguably at that level with Niskanen too of course. He's played with a revolving door of partners since then, mostly with Justin Braun but last season with rookie Cam York. He would be an excellent partner with Reilly, if he plays on the left side.
He's not a PP1QB, but he did lead the league among Dmen in PPG once in 19-20.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

The leafs should let Nylander walk or do a 3 way trade where Nylander goes and Karlsson comes to the leafs @8.5 imo that’s the way to go over Provonov

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He's actually better at D than O

That's fine, in fact that's preferably that means he can do both.

Dumba would add some snarl, and though he doesn't score much anymore, he can still skate well and handle the puck decently. Is also much better defensively than he used to be.

One of the main things that he has to offer is that he is a UFA, and not an old one, either. Leafs won't have to give up anything for him but cash, and even then, his AAV should be less than Provorov's.

Like I said, I don't hate the idea, in fact I'd be for it, but I'd rather the guy that doesn't miss games

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Provorov is a good defenseman that's played on some lousy Flyers teams. His best year was when he was 2nd on the depth chart, which is about where he'd be on the Leafs blueline. And he won't have as much responsibility in Toronto with Reilly there, which can only help his game. So I don't think it's unfair to ask for 28thOA and Knies for a guy like Provorov.

Knies wouldn't be the guy

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The thing with Provorov is he really needs a steady guy on his pair to get the best out of him. Unless the plan is to pin him to Brodie permanently I don't think he is a good fit IMO. Plus Dumba would be free to acquire and probably costs less than 5M to sign

I think Provorov and Brodie/McCabe would be a great pair.

And that's what you do, put Reilly with one, Provorov with the other and your top 4 is set.

You probably try Reilly with Provorov because you'd have to try it.

Bur in the end one goes with McCabe the other with Brodie

 

[FlyguyOX]

Knies wouldn't be the guy

Nick Robertson. Rodion Amirov, Topi Niemela, Fraser Minton, Nick Abruzzese, Roni Hirvonen won't cut it so probably 2 1sts coming back from Toronto then.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Nick Robertson. Rodion Amirov, Topi Niemela, Fraser Minton, Nick Abruzzese, Roni Hirvonen won't cut it so probably 2 1sts coming back from Toronto then.

Amirov is quite literally fighting for his life with a brain tumor so he's out regardless

 

[justashadowof]

A blockbuster:

Nylander, Liljegren and Knies for Provorov and Konecny

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

A blockbuster:

Nylander, Liljegren and Knies for Provorov and Konecny

Knies is unlikely, I won't say untouchable because we have Treliving now, unlikely

 

[Phion Keneuf]

A blockbuster:

Nylander, Liljegren and Knies for Provorov and Konecny

Absolutely not.

I’d much rather the Leafs target Dumba (maybe a $5M x 4 years gets it done?), who won’t cost anything other than cap space compared to Provorov who we will need to trade our 1st+ to land.

Sign Dumba, use that 1st to upgrade elsewhere.

 

[JRichard]

That's not really true, yeah they are lacking mid round picks, but those are easy to get.

But they haven't traded a significant prospect in 4 years, they have 1st round picks in 2023, 2024, top 10 protected in 2025, and they have their 2026, or they will have their 2025 and lose their 2026.

Either way the idea that the Leafs have no picks or prospects needs to die it's simply not real.

No 1st pick in 2019, 21, 22.
3 selections total in 21

some early picks were Euros who have yet to come over and-or never will

overall weak prospects group. Seems obvious to me.