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Prospects since 2020 on the verge of busting

I am surprised by the lack of positive development for Jack Peart, I thought that he was such a smart player that he would be able to carve out some role in Minnesota eventually, and that expectation doesn't seem to have trended well over the last couple of seasons. I have heard that the Iowa Wild are a miserable AHL organization and that may have something to do with it but I'm still surprised.
 
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I am surprised by the lack of positive development for Jack Peart, I thought that he was such a smart player that he would be able to carve out some role in Minnesota eventually, and that expectation doesn't seem to have trended well over the last couple of seasons. I have heard that the Iowa Wild are a miserable AHL organization and that may have something to do with it but I'm still surprised.
Last year was his first pro season, still far too early to call it on him as he still needs to add strength to his game, good decision maker and nice skating but needs experience and more physicality for pro play. As mentioned, Iowa has been a tire fire for several years now, most of MNs top prospects have been in college or abroad, and while the Wild have stayed a float with the cap penalties, it was at the cost of their depth veteran players.

Lambos, Peart, and Spacek have all been thrown in the deep end right out of the gate with very little support. Each has also made significant progress despite the comments in this thread.
While it’s unlikely that any of the 3 end up as top 3 defenders, each still has the potential to be NHL contributors. Spacek was a 5th round overager pick, I have no idea why he was even mentioned in this topic for “busting.”
 
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Last year was his first pro season, still far too early to call it on him as he still needs to add strength to his game, good decision maker and nice skating but needs experience and more physicality for pro play. As mentioned, Iowa has been a tire fire for several years now, most of MNs top prospects have been in college or abroad, and while the Wild have stayed a float with the cap penalties, it was at the cost of their depth veteran players.

Lambos, Peart, and Spacek have all been thrown in the deep end right out of the gate with very little support. Each has also made significant progress despite the comments in this thread.
While it’s unlikely that any of the 3 end up as top 3 defenders, each still has the potential to be NHL contributors. Spacek was a 5th round overager pick, I have no idea why he was even mentioned in this topic for “busting.”
Lambos hasn't grown to the level most of us thought he would. That's disappointing. If he can be a minutes eating number 5 or 6, that's a win at this point. Peart has regressed relative to expectations as well, considering he was very solid for St Cloud State back in 2022 and 2023.

I'm guessing O'Rourke has been a complete dud as well. Not sure if Iowa is a complete shitshow, but development has not gone that well down there for the Wild.
 
I am surprised by the lack of positive development for Jack Peart, I thought that he was such a smart player that he would be able to carve out some role in Minnesota eventually, and that expectation doesn't seem to have trended well over the last couple of seasons. I have heard that the Iowa Wild are a miserable AHL organization and that may have something to do with it but I'm still surprised.
Agreed. Thought for sure he would be a solid bottom pair guy at least
 
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I love how you left of Dmitri Buchelnikov who looks like a potential star.

Yes the rest don't look great.
The thread is on prospects who are on the verge of busting. I agree that Wallinder and Buium will be given more time as they have played big mins in the AHL, so it's too early to call them busts. Niederbach, Hanas and James, however, all look like 2nd rounders who will never get more than a cup of coffee in the NHL.
 
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You haven’t posted a single stat yet aside from plus/minus and ice time, neither of which measure defensive results in any meaningful way. You are just plain trolling and living on emotion with zero actual useful stats to back up anything you’ve claimed.

He actually watched him play... For starters.

Crazy how this incredible rookie is living rent free in your head.
 
A couple dmen nobody has said yet...

Korchinski and Simashev.

For Korchinksi, I'm sure that year in the NHL as a 19 year old has done wonders for his confidence. :popcorn:
Who made the decision to put him there so early? He's still very young and has a good chance to bloom later. Many D don't put it together until much much later.

Simashev just turned 20. Simashev is a safe bet to make it in the NHL, when you're 6'5 and have the skating to evade forecheckers like he does, you're going to play.
 
The thread is on prospects who are on the verge of busting. I agree that Wallinder and Buium will be given more time as they have played big mins in the AHL, so it's too early to call them busts. Niederbach, Hanas and James, however, all look like 2nd rounders who will never get more than a cup of coffee in the NHL.

Lol oops my bad I read that wrong
 
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For Korchinksi, I'm sure that year in the NHL as a 19 year old has done wonders for his confidence. :popcorn:
Who made the decision to put him there so early? He's still very young and has a good chance to bloom later. Many D don't put it together until much much later.

Simashev just turned 20. Simashev is a safe bet to make it in the NHL, when you're 6'5 and have the skating to evade forecheckers like he does, you're going to play.

Agree, I think they'll both end up being NHLers, but neither will be worthy of their draft spot.
 
Drysdale isnt trending well. Could end up in europe in a year or two. Questionable hockey IQ, weak shot.
If he was big and a mean hitting machine a team could be OK with 20 points per year but he's small and he did become more physical before Ducks traded him but he risked injury playing that way with his smaller frame.
 
How the hell is Simashev in danger of busting when he hasn't even set foot on NA ice? He just turned 20 and has spent 2.5 years in the KHL. Teenagers don't usually play that many or that much in that league.
 
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Nathan Gaucher for sure
Not sure why you would say that. He was drafted as a bottom 6 center, he is being developed as a bottom 6 center. Apparently the coaching staff love him in San Diego. They put him on the ice against every team's top line and he has dealt with injuries. I would say he is right where I expected him to be in his D+3.

edit: honestly this thread is kind of BS. Very few players have actually busted this fast from those years. Jacob Perreault is an example of a clear bust, but that's because of the type of player he is. A lot of "busts" will still likely find roles in the bottom 6 at the NHL level.
 
Make or break time for Lukas Reichel. It's not inconceivable he's on Waivers this season/Back in Europe next season if he doesn't come out with a good start to the season. Absent showing a lot more than he has to date, he could be looking at the end of his NHL time (unless he's content to hang around the fringes, play in the AHL, etc.)
 
Not sure why you would say that. He was drafted as a bottom 6 center, he is being developed as a bottom 6 center. Apparently the coaching staff love him in San Diego. They put him on the ice against every team's top line and he has dealt with injuries. I would say he is right where I expected him to be in his D+3.

edit: honestly this thread is kind of BS. Very few players have actually busted this fast from those years. Jacob Perreault is an example of a clear bust, but that's because of the type of player he is. A lot of "busts" will still likely find roles in the bottom 6 at the NHL level.
Because when you're drafted in the 1st round, you automatically have more expectations placed on you. Gaucher was drafted ahead of several guys who have panned out better so far.
 
Because when you're drafted in the 1st round, you automatically have more expectations placed on you. Gaucher was drafted ahead of several guys who have panned out better so far.
I think both of you are correct, it's not Gaucher's fault that Anaheim drafted him where they did, and he definitely has the tools to be a very capable 4th line C in the NHL and he is very well regarded in the organization for what he does bring, size, skating, grit & compete. That having been said, could Anaheim have gotten him later in the draft, perhaps. A difference making 4th line center is actually a pretty valuable player and I think Gaucher will win a ton faceoffs, hit the crap out of people and generally be a very good defensive player. I don't think he will produce much offense however.
 
Because when you're drafted in the 1st round, you automatically have more expectations placed on you. Gaucher was drafted ahead of several guys who have panned out better so far.
That doesn't make him a bust....
That may mean he was a bad pick at that place, but that's not a bust.
 
I think both of you are correct, it's not Gaucher's fault that Anaheim drafted him where they did, and he definitely has the tools to be a very capable 4th line C in the NHL and he is very well regarded in the organization for what he does bring, size, skating, grit & compete. That having been said, could Anaheim have gotten him later in the draft, perhaps. A difference making 4th line center is actually a pretty valuable player and I think Gaucher will win a ton faceoffs, hit the crap out of people and generally be a very good defensive player. I don't think he will produce much offense however.
Exactly.

If you look at who the Ducks have drafted at forward outside of their top 10 picks since PV came on, they clearly are going guys that will be complimentary pieces that can play up and down the lineup.
Gaucher
Myatovic
Terrance
Pitre
Procyszyn
Blais
Burnevik

If they view Gaucher as a future 3rd/4th line center like Sami Pahlsson then that is well worth the 1st rounder they payed.

It's unfortunate he will always be compared to the 2 guys drafted after him that look like studs.
 

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