Although I agree with you that our rookies will be in tough to make the team I don’t think it’s because of a vet mentality by Berube. Berube used rookie 19 year old Robert Thomas just fine on St. Louis’s cup run. I don’t think Berube had any problems using young players who deserved it.
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exemple if toronto take a risk right now and trade kampf to give all the space to Minten. But aftwr 20 game, we finally see than Minten is not ready and need time in AHL... What do you think will happen? leafs gonna need to overpay at TDL to repair their mistake.
Leafs are pretty thin in their depht at C, they are not in position to move Kampf
stickty111
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I agree on Hirvonen. He’s had a tough go. I’m certainly hoping for the best. My concern is that he never had any stand out skill to begin with, and is looking more and more vanilla every time I see him. Currently projecting as an AHL forward with AAAA upside.
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Yes, Berube played rookie Robert Thomas for 21 of 26 games in the playoffs, even though he only scored 1 goal and 5 assists. He wasn't physical and didn't put up points.
Perhaps people should give their heads a shake?
therealkoho
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Yeah that Mariner guy always looks like he's a little lost at sea if you ask me
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He reminds me a lot of the Alex Kerfoot skills package. Compact guy and everything looks pretty refined, bright, alert hockey mind but nothing standout.
therealkoho
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He's penciled in to today's game which will be streamed on Leafs.com
I agree with the style, the notable difference imo is skating. Kerfoot was/is a great skater. Far better first step and acceleration than I see in Hirvonen. For my money, Holmberg is the new Kerfoot, Hirvonen will need to improve quite a bit to get there.
Torontonian
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Looks like our top prospects/rookies where the best players on the ice for Toronto? Minten/Cowan/Quillan/Grebenkin?
From the current forward group?
Nylander, Robertson, Homberg, McMann. Zach Hyman was another, Trevor Moore.
Berube’s Stanley Cup team had a good sprinkling of kids, so let’s hope that trend continues.
ULF_55
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In a pinch Leafs have these players who can line up at center:
Matthews
Tavares
Domi
Kampf
Holmberg
Jarnkrok
Dewar
Nylander
If they have to they can dip into the Marlies for a center.
Marlies have any players under a NHL contract who play center?
Found it interesting Kerfoot - Holmberg below:
In 91 games Holmberg took more face-offs than Kerfoot (164 games) since the 2021-2022 season.
So perhaps Holmberg could be a short-term option.
Moving Kampf would create an adjustment period ... maybe the Leafs miss the playoffs and he proves he was the most important player on the team?
Matthews
Tavares
Domi
Kampf
Holmberg
Jarnkrok
Dewar
Nylander
If they have to they can dip into the Marlies for a center.
Marlies have any players under a NHL contract who play center?
Found it interesting Kerfoot - Holmberg below:
In 91 games Holmberg took more face-offs than Kerfoot (164 games) since the 2021-2022 season.
So perhaps Holmberg could be a short-term option.
Moving Kampf would create an adjustment period ... maybe the Leafs miss the playoffs and he proves he was the most important player on the team?
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therealkoho
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Yeah for sure except that for these kids it's one of the most important games of their lives. It was pretty intense with lots of contact, hard nosed cycling and even a pretty play here and there.
I don't think Treliving or Berube are stuck in the veteran is better mentality. Young guys were inserted into the lineup last year as needed.
Minten is more likely to make the team than either Lorentz or Pacioretty. There are a lot of people other than you Bill that think this way, but the Leafs Mgmnt are a little more progressive than you think. They've been preaching the same mantra all summer of " who wins the job gets the job.
The NHL is a skating game and Minten caught two different guys from behind yesterday, one of whom was rated as an elite skater at the draft. Just because there are a couple of PTOs in camp doesn't negate jobs that are currently wide open.
In fact I would say there are only 7 or 8 players guaranteed roster spots as of the camp opening next week, all else is up for grabs.
I'm kind of amazed that so many people underestimate Mintens offensive abilities. Even though he fought injuries all year, played on 4 different teams and still was a PPG player in the W, people still don't see him!
Hard accurate shot, check
Disguises release points, check
Silky mitts, check
High awareness level, check
Goes to the dirty areas, check
Strong on the boards, check
He could play in the A and it might do him some good, but he's already highly disciplined and plays a strong 200 foot game. If he can win the dot at least 50% of the time against NHLers I just don't see him in the A.
therealkoho
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Rookie Camp: How To Watch Game 2 – Canadiens Vs. Maple Leafs
The Montreal Canadiens will once again face the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Bell Centre, as both teams will play the final leg of back-to-back games to close out their rookie camps. The puck drop is scheduled for 1 pm ET. The Leafs won the first matchup on Saturday, owning to a 4-3 shootout win. […]
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He's listed in potential Leaf line-up which is what the Leafs submit to the league I believe
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Rookie Camp: How To Watch Game 2 – Canadiens Vs. Maple Leafs
The Montreal Canadiens will once again face the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Bell Centre, as both teams will play the final leg of back-to-back games to close out their rookie camps. The puck drop is scheduled for 1 pm ET. The Leafs won the first matchup on Saturday, owning to a 4-3 shootout win. […]
He's listed in potential Leaf line-up which is what the Leafs submit to the league I believe
He's not playing this weekend per the coach, unless that changed. So probably just going with the list submitted prior to getting injured.
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SprDaVE
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For guys like Cowan, the coaches and scouts already know what he's all about and this tournament isn't going to make it break him. I think he knows that and is just having fun and trying stay healthy for training camp
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Wonder why Greb is coming out. Would have liked to see more of him.
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ULF_55
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I could think of 3 reasons.
- Needed open spot for someone
- Know enough about him from KHL
- First game coming off injury
stickty111
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Don't need to push him too much. Coming off a serious injury too
