Post-Game Talk: Preseason Game 2: 9/24 - New York Islanders @ New York Rangers - 7pm ET , MSG

[egelband]

The telling thing is how many posts said this is our Stanley cup. If ever there’s an example of projecting.

Very funny indeed considering where the two teams stand relative to each other, in every aspect.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

The guy who kept Jones from being a regular in our lineup last year was Erik Gustafsson and without looking I'd guess he got more power play time than Trouba did. Erik has been something of a point producer and second option power play with two or three teams in his NHL career.

I was mainly referring to the month where Fox was out and Trouba was on for pp2 over Jones. There were definitely a few games late in the season too where Gus was concussed and Jones still couldn’t draw onto the second unit.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

Like, Michael Jackson Bad? Or drinking from ashtray beer bottle bad?

Spit cup bad

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I had really hoped with the attempt to trade Trouba he would have come to camp with quicker feet, he looks the same. The good thing is they seem to be willing to go with Jones and him together.

 

[kovazub94]

I'm officially over Kravtsov

But now the question is if Kravtsov’s over you?

 

[Row I Goon]

Panarin - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Kreider - Zibanejad - Smith
Cuylle - Chytil - Kakko
Edstrom - Carrick - Rempe

Miller - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider

Shesterkin
Quick

Damn, Ed. Yes!

 

[McRanger92]

Didn't watch a ton of the game because I was locked into that Mets fiasco. My main takeaways from what I saw were:

-Jones is tiny but has high upside with the puck on his stick. Zubov-lite to Fox' Leetch? We need another guy who can handle the puck and he's absolutely earned his spot by being patient.
-Edstrom/Rempe/whoever is a big problem for opposing teams. All the opposing defenders are looking for the life boats when the big fellas are on the forecheck. Love to see both guys getting PK minutes.
-Chytil is going to end up injured skating through the zone like he does. Very talented player, but it's inevitable sadly.
-Lindgren did what he does. Gets injured trying to play bigger than he is. Lavi needs to face facts that playing him with Fox is a detriment
-The top guys all looked the same. Which means they lollygagged and overpassed 5v5, played well on special teams, and had a furious late comeback to win. The coaching staff really needs to try some new combos because the same bad tendencies are there.
-Othmann aint close. Berard is.
-Doesnt matter if its preseason or the Stadium Series, we're in the Islanders heads

 

[Mike in Houston]

Stock Up
Jones
Berard
Rempe
Edstrom

Stock Down
Othmann
Harpur
Ruhwedel

 

[eco's bones]

I was mainly referring to the month where Fox was out and Trouba was on for pp2 over Jones. There were definitely a few games late in the season too where Gus was concussed and Jones still couldn’t draw onto the second unit.

Well sorry but you didn't say that and I'm not a mind reader when it comes to something left unsaid. But saying there was no one remotely capable of running a power play isn't right because Gustafsson's been doing that with varying degrees of success for a long time and he played 76 of 82 regular season games for us last year. When Fox was out for 10 games the Rangers power play kept on clicking with Erik becoming the #1 option.

Erik is not in his way this year and if Zac's defense holds up he should get a lot more playing Tim this season.

On your obsession with Trouba OTOH.....well Jacob is overpaid for what he brings and we pretty much found out post playoffs that he never really got over his ankle injury. He was playing hurt--Fox's knee was wobbly pretty much from early on in the playoffs and Lindgren was playing with cracked ribs or something like that. That Jacob makes too much money or plays a bunch of games with an injury is not his fault. That the coaches continued to play with the three injured defensemen throughout the playoffs is not on the players. Not just you but when reading any number of people venting their frustrations about a particular player I don't look at it as analysis but as frustration more than anything else.

For now I think Jacob is going to be around this year but it wouldn't surprise me if Mancini begins moving him out. I can't see us keeping Igor and Jacob both next year so I would say it's a pretty reasonable guess that Jacob gets moved over the summer.

 

[kovazub94]

Ed, are you feeling okay? This looks... reasonable.

I was looking for Rempe - Panarin combo or at least Rempe - Fox as an alternative.

Ed’s account has been obviously breached.

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Panarin - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Kreider - Zibanejad - Smith
Cuylle - Chytil - Kakko
Edstrom - Carrick - Rempe

Miller - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider

Shesterkin
Quick

Sic Trouba and Lindgren on each other on the bottom pair. They've earned it

 

[Leonardo87]

Panarin - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Kreider - Zibanejad - Smith
Cuylle - Chytil - Kakko
Edstrom - Carrick - Rempe

Miller - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider

Shesterkin
Quick

 

[savebyrichter94]

Tough luck for Mrs. Paul’s boys

 

[leetch99]

Hopefully we have not peaked early .

 

[bigdog16]

Pretty frusterating from Othmann. He will be the same age this year as Cuylle was last year. He doesn’t look remotely close.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Pretty frusterating from Othmann. He will be the same age this year as Cuylle was last year. He doesn’t look remotely close.

Agree. I would even say he looks like he's taken a step back vs last year. Last years camp he was a stud.

 

[eco's bones]

It's still early in camp with Othmann and Berard. I think they'll both get another game or two. That said I think either making it means we're going to have to make a trade. Guys like Rempe and Edstrom are made for a 4th line. Othmann and Berard are not. Cuylle could drop down fine I think though. To me Othmann or Berard making the team this year pushes Kakko out unless Kakko can supplant Reilly Smith who would then be the odd guy out.

 

[GAGLine]

It's still early in camp with Othmann and Berard. I think they'll both get another game or two. That said I think either making it means we're going to have to make a trade. Guys like Rempe and Edstrom are made for a 4th line. Othmann and Berard are not. Cuylle could drop down fine I think though. To me Othmann or Berard making the team this year pushes Kakko out unless Kakko can supplant Reilly Smith who would then be the odd guy out.

There's no chance that Smith isn't on this team. The same likely goes for Kakko.

Othmann and Berard are both waiver exempt. That will play into the decisions.

 

[savebyrichter94]

I really want both Edstrom and Rempe on this team, gives that 4th line a totally different look

 

[eco's bones]

Another look at Lindgren's fight. He goes to fight Mayfield but only ever gets one glove off. His grabbing hand has the glove still on and it's not a very good grab. He was able to tie him up for a while but the bigger stronger Mayfield eventually twists and wrenches him into a takedown and that's probably where the injury comes from. He would have better just squaring off instead of rushing in but I don't think he was going to win that anyway. I don't think he threw one punch---he just grabbed and held on and I have to wonder what was the point?

 

[Ruggs225]

I wonder if it would be better to have edstrom on the third line and cuylle on the 4th.

Edstrom has some good speed to keep up with Chytil. Also, he seems to have very good offensive awareness.

Food for thought

 

[bigdog16]

Agree. I would even say he looks like he's taken a step back vs last year. Last years camp he was a stud.

I know, kind of a bummer. You really want to see a kid take a bull by the horns with the opportunity

 

[Chytilmania]

Did Panarin get hurt? Saw a headline "Panarin suffers potential 'season-altering' injury." Hoping it's clickbait.

 

[McRanger92]

Another look at Lindgren's fight. He goes to fight Mayfield but only ever gets one glove off. His grabbing hand has the glove still on and it's not a very good grab. He was able to tie him up for a while but the bigger stronger Mayfield eventually twists and wrenches him into a takedown and that's probably where the injury comes from. He would have better just squaring off instead of rushing in but I don't think he was going to win that anyway. I don't think he threw one punch---he just grabbed and held on and I have to wonder what was the point?

Why get an instigator 5 minutes into your first preseason game against a guy a foot taller and 30 pounds heavier than you, when Matt Rempe is literally playing? Just a stupid, performative move by Lindgren to seem "tough". And now he's injured. Again.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Was Rempe actually any good or is this just his usual tire pumpers just overlooking hockey things?

Another look at Lindgren's fight. He goes to fight Mayfield but only ever gets one glove off. His grabbing hand has the glove still on and it's not a very good grab. He was able to tie him up for a while but the bigger stronger Mayfield eventually twists and wrenches him into a takedown and that's probably where the injury comes from. He would have better just squaring off instead of rushing in but I don't think he was going to win that anyway. I don't think he threw one punch---he just grabbed and held on and I have to wonder what was the point?

He ate an uppercut to the face. If he got hurt I’d guess it that.

I respect jumping in there but one of the bigger guys could have taken care of this a few minutes later.