GDT: preseason game 1 at buffalo

[Cardiac Jerks]

If Buffalo had their full strength defense, they would have won this game.

A most excellent post.

 

[My Special Purpose]

If Buffalo had their full strength defense, they would have won this game.

Well done.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

If Buffalo had their full strength defense, they would have won this game.

 

[Bridgeburner96]

In case you guys missed it: Forslund said on the Aftermath that Francis had Necas at number 4 on our team's draft board (and other teams had him higher as well).

 

[Roboturner913]

Hoffman

One f, two n's

It's obvious you have even less respect for him than you do Derek Ryan but at least try to spell his name right

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

 

[tarheelhockey]

Oh my god, the crowd noises in that are the best

 

[My Special Purpose]

Or as it's known colloquially, the Derek Ryan highlight reel.

 

[Roboturner913]

Ryan is on pace for 14 goals and 7 assists in the preason, 164 goals and 82 assists in the regular season, if he can........

.......sustain



it

 

[Breakdowns]

Maybe next game Ryan will not play and Necas can start his comeback from 0:2.5 losing score?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Hard to tell but for 1.4 mil he can continue his sucky unsustainable 11/29 in 67 from last season as far as I'm concerned. What the **** ever. It not's like we have goal scorers coming out of the wood work here.

so upset you are. a joke it was.

also: maybe he was just waiting for ol' number 7 to show his true game.

 

[The Faulker 27]

so upset you are. a joke it was.

also: maybe he was just waiting for ol' number 7 to show his true game.

ha, I'm not upset. Just looking out for my Boy D Ryan.



Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with Derek in any way. Just like his story, and his try hard and think he deserves a little less criticism.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ryan does fairly well on the PP where he has more time and space to make plays. I haven't seen him be fast enough or strong enough to create space 5v5, unless he's with a much better talent (like Skinner). IIRC, His 5v5 scoring last year (as well as possession numbers) were much worse away from Skinner. Granted, it's hard to tell how much of that is Ryan riding Skinner's coat tails vs. any average-below average player will perform worse when put on a line with lesser players, but still.

He's a smart, responsible player though and I'm sure a coaches dream. At this point in time, I think the Canes are waiting (hoping) for someone else to eventually grab a center spot down the road which would make him expendable; whether that's Necas, Roy, Aho shifting to center or something else.

Every team has a Ryan (or two) type player on their team. Problem with the Canes in the past is that we've had a roster full of Ryan type players which makes us a bit more jaded on guys like him. Guys that are marginal NHL players playing key roles on the Canes, only to be out of the NHL when they leave Carolina. The Canes roster doesn't have a lot of those now, but we still don't have the elite talent at forward to compensate, like the really good teams do.

 

[AD Skinner]

My issue with Ryan is that due to his age he's unlikely to progress any further- and that's not his fault. He's younger than me and it's very surreal to think that way, but that's just nature. I don't want the team to bank on him being any more than he is now or penciling him into long term plans as a key piece. He seems like a good guy and I wish him nothing but success especially as it relates to Hurricanes success. I'm just wary of it not happening

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I wish there was a way I could see prime Chad Larose and Derek Ryan play on the same line.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I wish there was a way I could see prime Chad Larose and Derek Ryan play on the same line.

Let's complete the trifecta.

Dwyer-Ryan-LaRose

Bowman as the first callup in case of injury.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

I wish there was a way I could see prime Chad Larose and Derek Ryan play on the same line.

surely that is possible considering chad's prime never ended

it never even began

 

[GoldiFox]

Ryan is a good compliment to Skinner. Skinner likes to drive the play and create offensive chances through sheer skating and willpower. He draws opponents which opens Ryan up take advantage of his above-average offensive instincts, get in the right spots, and finish plays.

Those two will do some damage next year on the 3rd line playing weaker competition. Add a physical element with a guy like Jooris to grind opponents down and it could be even more effective.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Ryan is a good compliment to Skinner. Skinner likes to drive the play and create offensive chances through sheer skating and willpower. He draws opponents which opens Ryan up take advantage of his above-average offensive instincts, get in the right spots, and finish plays.

Those two will do some damage next year on the 3rd line playing weaker competition. Add a physical element with a guy like Jooris to grind opponents down and it could be even more effective.

This could be either kinda right, or way way waaaaay wrong.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I don't want the team to bank on him being any more than he is now or penciling him into long term plans as a key piece.

I'm sure they don't have plans to keep Ryan around long term. That's why he was signed to a 1 year contact. He's serving a need in our lineup until the talent level increases enough that he's no longer necessary. I'm hoping we get a legit #1C at some point and don't have to carry guys like Ryan, but in the mean time I think he's doing well for a guy that took years to make it to the NHL. At 1.4 mil I don't expect 20 goals or 40 points from him, but he sure as hell has the potential.

 

[JCLA]

Ryan's one of those guys wayyyy too good for the AHL but he just doesn't seem to have it for the NHL and I think that shows when he's playing against mostly AHL'ers and prospects.


Luckily for us, we have Skinner to line up next to him to mask some of his weaknesses so that we can give Necas another year in the Czech.

 

[Ole Gil]

My issue with Ryan is that due to his age he's unlikely to progress any further- and that's not his fault. He's younger than me and it's very surreal to think that way, but that's just nature. I don't want the team to bank on him being any more than he is now or penciling him into long term plans as a key piece. He seems like a good guy and I wish him nothing but success especially as it relates to Hurricanes success. I'm just wary of it not happening

This is most likely true. Then again, he was a rookie last year. It's not impossible having a year in the NHL under his belt will help his play.

But in the end, if he just does what he did last year, that's great, given that he should be #9 in production from the forwards. Other teams aren't getting a 30+ point pace from their #9 forward. That's this teams path to success. Above average production from forwards #5-#10.

 

[geehaad]

Ryan single-handedly won an exhibition game for the Canes.

Eat crow, sunshines.

 

[bleedgreen]

Ryan is actually a good linemate for Skinner, but not because Skinner drives play and any tool can play with him. Being a small player who uses his skill, he's actually the purest passer/playmaker of the centers. Also possibly the most consistent in that category. Rask is the only competition and he's struggles with his confidence and his role. Ryan knows his....feed Skinner the puck. He knows he's a role player and his best skill is holding possession a second longer for Skinner to get open so he can feed him. He doesn't mind being a subservient player, a guy who's role is to support another player for the overall success. He's really the best guy for that job until Rask gets his game back a bit. When it comes to passing, Ryan may have an edge on Rask to be honest. Rask can drive the net in ways Ryan never will, and is a better all around player but Ryan has skills.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Let's complete the trifecta.

Dwyer-Ryan-LaRose

Bowman as the first callup in case of injury.

So much hustle.