Post-Game Talk: Preds v The Other Cats 1PM CST IT’S A GAME!!!!!!

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TheOriginalJez

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I am relieved of the fact that none of these defenders are in our NHL starting lineup. This is not a very good group of defensemen.
Gravel and Del Gaizo are out there at times I think (I'm watching a panthers stream so if I can't see the numbers I lose people) and they seem ok. But generally our D corps isn't deep, it hasn't been for a while. And we're looking at 3rd/4th league goalies realistically
 

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Yeah, definitely can't read anything into these games if you just look at boxscores anyway. Sounds like the 1st game was fairly even, despite them having Tkachuk, and they ended up with a 3-2 win, close all around, even with a lot of inexperienced players.

2nd game does sound a bit like Wedgewood was crap. Other stats show a game that might have been more along the lines of the 1st game in terms of shots and possession, but if you get down 4-0 when your goalie isn't ready to go, I mean, that's the game right there. :dunno:
 
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No it didn't. Askarov is likely to play in the AHL in San Jose, so it was him, not the Saros contract.
Wrong. 100% Askarov was gone the second Saros signed the new deal with trade protection.. He knew that he would never be the guy here in Nashville once Saros signed long-term. That is not the case at all in San Jose. It doesn't matter if he plays in the AHL or not this season, the point is he will be primed to be the starter there sooner rather than later. That was certainly not the case here.
 
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Apparently I typed this last night but never hit send, lol. :laugh:


I missed the whole first game, saw most of the second. Good thing this was preseason, that was a bit rough.

Sounds/looks like the PK still needs a lot of work. Screened shots, tips, deflections were all getting through for goals.

Stamkos scored, so there's that. Right from his office, on the powerplay.

Quite a few defensive breakdowns and missed assignments left Panthers wide open.

Wedgewood rough early, but settled down and played ok.

More of an even game after the first period.



Good to have hockey back!
 

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Wrong. 100% Askarov was gone the second Saros signed the new deal with trade protection.. He knew that he would never be the guy here in Nashville once Saros signed long-term. That is not the case at all in San Jose. It doesn't matter if he plays in the AHL or not this season, the point is he will be primed to be the starter there sooner rather than later. That was certainly not the case here.
Only because he didn't want to work for anything. Trotz told him in the offseason that the plan was for him to be the back up this year, Wedgewood was just there in case Askarov stunk things up. If being in the NHL was truly his goal then he would have taken the opportunity, instead he bailed to go somewhere he has zero competition and they will hand him the net, whether he is good enough to do it or not.

Yes we may have eventually needed to move him either way, but he had his shot this season for what he said he wanted, which was to play in the NHL.

Frankly I'm not that worried about him one way or the other. I think he ends up not getting the proper development in San Jose and is back in Russia by the time he hits UFA status.
 

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Only because he didn't want to work for anything. Trotz told him in the offseason that the plan was for him to be the back up this year, Wedgewood was just there in case Askarov stunk things up. If being in the NHL was truly his goal then he would have taken the opportunity, instead he bailed to go somewhere he has zero competition and they will hand him the net, whether he is good enough to do it or not.

Yes we may have eventually needed to move him either way, but he had his shot this season for what he said he wanted, which was to play in the NHL.

Frankly I'm not that worried about him one way or the other. I think he ends up not getting the proper development in San Jose and is back in Russia by the time he hits UFA status.
Plus we just saw how he'd have been able to slip out from under the Saros shadow due to the Atlanta/Houston franchises incoming. So he was never truly stuck. If he had just stayed with us and worked on his flaws for another year in Milwaukee, then a year or two after that when he had continued his understudy work as a backup, he would have been picked in the Expansion draft. He was never "blocked" by the Saros deal.
 

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Plus we just saw how he'd have been able to slip out from under the Saros shadow due to the Atlanta/Houston franchises incoming. So he was never truly stuck. If he had just stayed with us and worked on his flaws for another year in Milwaukee, then a year or two after that when he had continued his understudy work as a backup, he would have been picked in the Expansion draft. He was never "blocked" by the Saros deal.
I mean Trotz said the plan was for him to be the back up this season, Wedgewood was told when he signed the deal that he could be in Milwaukee, so he may not have even needed to ride the bus in Milwaukee this season.

Not only was expansion likely coming up but if he plays very well someone is going to come knocking with a deal Trotz just couldn't say no too. Either way I don't think he would have been here more than another couple of seasons anyways, and he could have worked with some of the best goalie coaches out there in Korn and Vanderclock. Instead he wanted a job gifted to him, and he is going to a team whose goalie coaching situation by fans own admission may be a little suspect.

I just think we look back in 5 years and he is either a journeyman backup or isn't even in the NHL anymore. If he doesn't want to work for a spot on a roster what else does he not want to work on? The flags they be a waiving.
 

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I mean Trotz said the plan was for him to be the back up this season, Wedgewood was told when he signed the deal that he could be in Milwaukee, so he may not have even needed to ride the bus in Milwaukee this season.
I think it was more like, Trotz told him he'd have the opportunity to win the backup role. I would be skeptical too if he just signed a veteran NHLer, mid as he may be, to 2 @ 1.5.
 

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I think it was more like, Trotz told him he'd have the opportunity to win the backup role. I would be skeptical too if he just signed a veteran NHLer, mid as he may be, to 2 @ 1.5.
He can be as skeptical as he wants... bottom line is he bombed again in the AHL playoffs, so the onus was on Askarov to prove he deserved a spot. If he simply can't beat out Wedgewood and put that playoff faceplant behind him, then that's on him. You can't get spooked by things like that. Hockey is competitive. That's a pretty low bar for him, and he wasn't even willing to step up to that. :huh:
 

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He can be as skeptical as he wants... bottom line is he bombed again in the AHL playoffs, so the onus was on Askarov to prove he deserved a spot. If he simply can't beat out Wedgewood and put that playoff faceplant behind him, then that's on him. You can't get spooked by things like that. Hockey is competitive. That's a pretty low bar for him, and he wasn't even willing to step up to that. :huh:
All well and good, just saying I definitely didn't understand Trotz's comments to mean "the plan" was for Askarov to be the backup.
 

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All well and good, just saying I definitely didn't understand Trotz's comments to mean "the plan" was for Askarov to be the backup.
Whether it was the plan or not, if he couldn't beat Wedgewood out of camp he had no business worrying about playing in the NHL for the next season or two to start with. Heck if he couldn't beat out Wedgewood I'd say a path to being a #1 is the last thing on the list he should worry about, cause he isn't even close in that case.
 
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