TSN: Preds listening to offers on Saros.

[GeauxPreds1]

So if McDavid had a down season on a team full of kids and older vets that means he could be had for extra cheap as well by your logic?
Saros has been nothing short of spectacular his whole career but now because of half a season of still respectable hockey on a bad team keeping them in contention and he’s not worth as much anymore?

Two 1st rounders, a top prospect and something else should be the ask. But in no way will you get that. But the ask should always be a lot higher than you know you can get. If someone offers a top prospect and a 1st you definitely take it but you might not get that either so you might have to settle for a top prospect a 2nd or a good prospect.

 

[TheNumber4]

Weird

Why would I want the Goalie performing worse than Skinner?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Why would I want the Goalie performing worse than Skinner?

Because he is a much, much better player regardless of their statistics at the present moment

 

[Hockey Know it all]

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Faroooooqq and Bradshaw

 

[Soundgarden]

Seems about what we were expecting. Trotz is "listening" like Poile listened on Jeannot.

 

[TheNumber4]

Because he is a much, much better player regardless of their statistics at the present moment

Oh so ignore stats and pay a boatload off a hunch?

 

[dirtydanglez]

thats just starting high in a negotiation. preds will get a 1st and a decent prospect for sure for saros but they wont get 2 1st, top prospect and something else with it. there is a lot of demand for goalies right now so the preds have a lot of leverage.

 

[Rock Paper Sissons]

Saros is not McDavid. He's maybe a top 5 goalie and not this year. I get you like your player and he does have value, he is good. Mcdavid will be top 5 ever if he stays healthy. Saros won't make the hall if he stays with Nashville.

Ok lol. I merely used him as an example. Let’s say Mackinnon or kucherov. Not McDavid. Jeeesh

Oh so ignore stats and pay a boatload off a hunch?

Ignore stats? A hunch??

You sound silly here my friend. There is no hunch. It’s stats that are the proof in the pudding. Go look at his stats for the last 5 years then come back and apologize to that man.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

thats just starting high in a negotiation. preds will get a 1st and a decent prospect for sure for saros but they wont get 2 1st, top prospect and something else with it. there is a lot of demand for goalies right now so the preds have a lot of leverage.

I agree if we can get teams like Carolina, L.a, Toronto, New Jersey and maybe even buffalo in a bidding war you can probably get a 1st and a top prospect from a desperate enough team

 

[FSL KINGS]

I agree if we can get teams like Carolina, L.a, Toronto, New Jersey and maybe even buffalo in a bidding war you can probably get a 1st and a top prospect from a desperate enough team

Doubt LA is interested after last night.

 

[timw33]

Doubt LA is interested after last night.

Because a career backup goalie had a single good night...?

 

[herzausstein]

Saros is not McDavid. He's maybe a top 5 goalie and not this year. I get you like your player and he does have value, he is good. Mcdavid will be top 5 ever if he stays healthy. Saros won't make the hall if he stays with Nashville.

All star goalie isnt getting that when he is playing lights out.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Because a career backup goalie had a single good night...?

Because Grundström, Turcotte & Lewis put up goals. They don't score.

Edit: Sorry Lewis.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Oh so ignore stats and pay a boatload off a hunch?

Skinner has been better for like 20 minutes lol

 

[McDoused]

Skinner has been better for like 20 minutes lol

Math doesn't appear to be your strong suit.

 

[TheNumber4]

Skinner has been better for like 20 minutes lol

And in the world of voodoo goaltending. You take those 20 minutes and run with it.

You know like how the Avs did with Francouz. And how the Knights did with Hill. Both on way to a Cup.

 

[Guitpik]

I agree if we can get teams like Carolina, L.a, Toronto, New Jersey and maybe even buffalo in a bidding war you can probably get a 1st and a top prospect from a desperate enough team

Blake kicked the tires on Saros last season. The ask was over the top to the point Blake went in a different direction and completed the trade and resigning of Dubois. He was comfortable going with bridge goaltenders for this year. The notion of the Kings being in on a Saros trade he’s sailed.

 

[Homesick]

Because he is a much, much better player regardless of their statistics at the present moment

.05 career Sv% isn't "much, much better"
I'll take the younger goalie who's been improving every year and signed for half the price.

 

[TheNumber4]

Ok lol. I merely used him as an example. Let’s say Mackinnon or kucherov. Not McDavid. Jeeesh


Ignore stats? A hunch??

You sound silly here my friend. There is no hunch. It’s stats that are the proof in the pudding. Go look at his stats for the last 5 years then come back and apologize to that man.

Go look at his stats this year and tell me if any Cup contender is going to be confident in that.

That’s all that matters in the world of voodoo goaltending. Performances go up and down like a roller coaster in hockeys most volatile position. You ride the hot hand, not the cold fish.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

And in the world of voodoo goaltending. You take those 20 minutes and run with it.

You know like how the Avs did with Francouz. And how the Knights did with Hill. Both on way to a Cup.

Ok let’s hope he can improve his playoff 3.6 GAA and .883 %

 

[thefutures]

I mean I shouldn't be surprised to see how people here value saros, considering how people here valued Hellebuyck last summer. A 1st and avg prospect price won't cut it here, and they won't move him if that's the case.

 

[TheNumber4]

Ok let’s hope he can improve his playoff 3.6 GAA and .883 %

It’ll improve like his performance this year due to coaching change.

Goalie performances will always be directly related to and connected to team defence performances. No other way of viewing the position other than that. Not in today’s league. I’m not surprised Saros was elite behind the almost always elite Preds D core. I’m not surprised his performance tanked now that their D core is regressing. I’m also not surprised Helly went from a .910 goalie Pre-Bowness, to a .920 in Bowness’s first year, and now a .924 on Bowness’s 2nd year. I’m also not surprised Boston has two “elite” goalies behind that always good Team defence.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It’ll improve like his performance this year due to coaching change.

Goalie performances will always be directly related to and connected to team defence performances. No other way of viewing the position other than that. Not in today’s league. I’m not surprised Saros was elite behind the almost always elite Preds D core. I’m not surprised his performance tanked now that their D core is regressing. I’m also not surprised Helly went from a .910 goalie Pre-Bowness, to a .920 in Bowness’s first year, and now a .924 on Bowness’s 2nd year. I’m also not surprised Boston has two “elite” goalies behind that always good Team defence.

You are for sure correct I just hope he holds up

Oilers goaltending has a habit of absolutely falling apart, I’m not convinced by Skinners recent improvement that he will continue at this level

 

[TheNumber4]

You are for sure correct I just hope he holds up

Oilers goaltending has a habit of absolutely falling apart, I’m not convinced by Skinners recent improvement that he will continue at this level

It’s the Oilers defence that has a habit of completely tanking. Keep in mind we went into the playoffs once with a red hot .923 Mike Smith. The defence once scouted got exposed. There’s a problem when the talentless Flames put up 9 on you in one game. Woodcroft is a good coach, but he had a system that got exposed over and over. And when tasked to change that system, he wasn’t able to, which lead to his firing.

 

[jumb0]

A lot of y’all don’t understand how negotiations work it seems.