Post-Game Talk: Pre-Season: Bruins @ Jets | MTS Centre | Thu, Sep 26 | 6:30PM

[garret9]

No one wants to know what the Corsi says...
Let's just summarize that the better team was Boston for 3/4 periods.

 

[Thesaurus]

Hide him in your system? If a player is claimed off waivers he must stay on the NHL roster on the claiming team. If they try to send him down, he must once again clear waivers. At which point the original team may reclaim him and send him down without waivers. So if you claim someone off waivers they are NHL or nothing (we've seen this with Ben Maxwell (for us, claimed by ANA when we put on waivers later reclaimed) and Brett MacLean (for PHO, we claimed used for a while then tried to send down only to have PHO reclaim and send down)).

I didn't know about the original team having waiver priority, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[surixon]

No one wants to know what the Corsi says...
Let's just summarize that the better team was Boston for 3/4 periods.

At least we won the faceoff battle :p

Or at least I think we did!

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I didn't know about the original team having waiver priority, thanks for clearing that up.

Yeah, there are some provisions on it (ie when reclaiming the original team must be the only team putting a claim in), but basically if a player is claimed off waivers he is NHL or nothing for that claiming team that season. It is not a way to stack your system.

It's why weird things like Henrik Karlsson clearing waivers THEN getting traded for a 7th round pick happens. That way Chicago could keep him in their system down in the AHL, something that they wouldn't be able to do with a waiver claim (since their attempt to send him down would just result in a reclaim by CGY).

 

[allan5oh]

It's why weird things like Henrik Karlsson clearing waivers THEN getting traded for a 7th round pick happens. That way Chicago could keep him in their system down in the AHL, something that they wouldn't be able to do with a waiver claim (since their attempt to send him down would just result in a reclaim by CGY).

Roster limit comes into play as well, as we saw with Mcgrattan a while back.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Roster limit comes into play as well, as we saw with Mcgrattan a while back.

Not sure what you are referring to.

 

[allan5oh]

Calgary wanted to pick up Mcgrattan, but they were at the roster limit and didn't want to send someone down at that time, so they waited for him to clear waivers then traded for him. They couldn't claim him because they didn't have the space.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Calgary wanted to pick up Mcgrattan, but they were at the roster limit and didn't want to send someone down at that time, so they waited for him to clear waivers then traded for him. They couldn't claim him because they didn't have the space.

Once a player clears waivers he still counts towards the roster limit though. Calgary had an injury or something I would imagine at that point in order to trade for him.

 

[allan5oh]

Once a player clears waivers he still counts towards the roster limit though. Calgary had an injury or something I would imagine at that point in order to trade for him.

Maybe my details are off, but it was something to do with that.

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2013/2/28/4040024/nashville-predators-trade-brian-mcgrattan-to-calgary

McGrattan had just recently been assigned to the Milwaukee Admirals after clearing waivers, and you might ask why the Flames wouldn't have just picked up McGrattan on waivers. One factor could be the Reserve List, which is capped at 50 players for each team. As of this morning, CapGeek showed Calgary at 49 players, so perhaps by returning something to the Preds via trade, they still leave themselves a little breathing room there. For McGrattan, it's a chance to return to the team he played 34 games for in the 2009-2010 season.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Maybe my details are off, but it was something to do with that.

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2013/2/28/4040024/nashville-predators-trade-brian-mcgrattan-to-calgary

Yeah that's not roster limit, it's the capped number of contracts (at 50). So sometimes it is better to return something to keep number of contracts down (you lose alot of flexibility once you have 50 contracts in the organization, no more waiver claims and all trades must have same or less signed players coming back as going out).

That would be a similiar situation to LAK acquiring Denis Gauthier a few years ago. Kings had 48-50 signed players, so rather than claim Gauthier off waivers they waited until he cleared then traded 2 players on ELC's that they had no intention of re-signing (Ned Lukacevic and Patrik Hersley, both of whom had no value at all, look them up) to PHI for Gauthier, so they took Gauthier and cleared a contract spot, which was a better deal than claiming him off waivers.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Watch that overtime goal. Buff gave up the puck and then lazily skated back as the Bruins broke out. He wasn't even trying.

Scheifele started well behind Buff and almost made it back in time. Yes, maybe Scheifele chose the wrong guy to cover on the backcheck, but at least he made the effort. Watching Scheifele and Buff side by side, one was trying his hardest (to play defense), the other made very little effort.

I noticed that too, Buff's inability to play consistent defense is really getting old fast...