Value of: Power Forward to LA

[Grinner]

Foligno is probably available this summer. Minnesota could use some scoring depth with upside - Kaliyev, Kupari, Turcotte etc.

Ouch!

 

[biturbo19]

Good thing Habs are rebuilding and have the luxury to wait and see what Barron and Mailloux can do. Considering savard will stay as the 3rd pairing RHD.

Trading a PF with value for a dman that isnt better than what we have, and needing to take a cap hit like Petersen? The + coming back has to be a real good pick (1st) or a top prospect.

The thing is...Savard isn't playing as a "3rd pairing RHD". He's playing de facto top-pairing RHD minutes. There is room for a guy like Durzi to show whether he's a Top-4D.


I do think figuring out that "+" to balance is important. But i think there's a framework for a deal there. The Habs are in a position to gamble on a guy like Durzi who has exceeded expectations and is still pretty young. Absolute worst case, he's a #4RHD who can be flipped somewhere else if he gets leapfrogged by Barron/Mailloux.

 

[Donuts]

myers can be converted to Power forward
for LA 1st

 

[HuGo Sham]

I'd definitely be down for a deal around Durzi for Anderson. Would definitely need to add cap going the other way maybe Iafallo or in a perfect world Petersen. I think Edmundson could be a good fit on the bottom pairing with Clarke.

great. I doubt Hughes is

The thing is...Savard isn't playing as a "3rd pairing RHD". He's playing de facto top-pairing RHD minutes. There is room for a guy like Durzi to show whether he's a Top-4D.


I do think figuring out that "+" to balance is important. But i think there's a framework for a deal there. The Habs are in a position to gamble on a guy like Durzi who has exceeded expectations and is still pretty young. Absolute worst case, he's a #4RHD who can be flipped somewhere else if he gets leapfrogged by Barron/Mailloux.

Montreal needs Josh Anderson more than it needs Durzi. This is not deal they would make imo

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Just sign Bertuzzi. He may not be huge but he’s very physically effective. Does good work in tight spaces and battles for every puck, often winning. Has plus hands to boot and scores a ton within 5 feet of the net.

1st player I thought of.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Durzi has his shortcomings, but he's a $1.7M RHD who can put together ~40pts and log 20 minutes a night on a playoff team. That's not nothing. He's also only 24, where he isn't necessarily completely done growing as a player.

He may be more of a #4D type, and he's never going to be a real "matchup/shutdown" pairing guy. But he's a natural RHD who has clear puck moving and offensive aptitude.

If the Habs hold out for a top-pairing caliber RHD...they're ultimately never going to find one. Teams don't trade those guys. So it's a matter of waiting to discover if Barron or Mailloux actually becomes that player for them. Neither seems super likely. But those are the players you have to draft and develop. You cannot trade for those guys.

You can make that argument, but habs don't need durzi. They're loaded at D and looking to move a vet or two out. Maybe they look to sign a vet D but they're not trading one of their only top 6 guys with size for that offer.
They have guys like Caufield and Suzuki who need size on the wings.
Dach and Slafkovsky are not enough.
This trade doesn't make any sense for Mtl imho

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You can make that argument, but habs don't need durzi. They're loaded at D and looking to move a vet or two out. Maybe they look to sign a vet D but they're not trading one of their only top 6 guys with size for that offer.
They have guys like Caufield and Suzuki who need size on the wings.
Dach and Slafkovsky are not enough.
This trade doesn't make any sense for Mtl imho

Ed for Durzi makes sense. Habs LHD are overloaded.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Ed for Durzi makes sense. Habs LHD are overloaded.

sure ok, but not anderson

 

[verbalkint47]

Something around Durzi for Anderson would be sweet if the Kings could make it work capwise

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Something around Durzi for Anderson would be sweet if the Kings could make it work capwise

Not so sweet for the Habs who wouldn't touch that.

Counter: Edmundston for Durzi.

 

[JTeller97]

Ed for Durzi makes sense. Habs LHD are overloaded.

Gotta think Durzi's worth more. Maybe Walker?

 

[PostBradMalone]

Good thing Habs are rebuilding and have the luxury to wait and see what Barron and Mailloux can do. Considering savard will stay as the 3rd pairing RHD.

Trading a PF with value for a dman that isnt better than what we have, and needing to take a cap hit like Petersen? The + coming back has to be a real good pick (1st) or a top prospect.

You can make that argument, but habs don't need durzi. They're loaded at D and looking to move a vet or two out. Maybe they look to sign a vet D but they're not trading one of their only top 6 guys with size for that offer.
They have guys like Caufield and Suzuki who need size on the wings.
Dach and Slafkovsky are not enough.
This trade doesn't make any sense for Mtl imho

Not so sweet for the Habs who wouldn't touch that.

Counter: Edmundston for Durzi.

Habs fans who think Anderson is worth more than a defenseman who outscored him are cute.

 

[PullHard]

What the hell did you guys draft Byfield for

?

Byfield's been a fast moving, soft handed C his whole life. Once he turned pro he's been bounced between C and W.

His approach to hockey is in the vein of a McDavid, Tage Thompson, Athanasiou

Nothing about his game relates to guys like Crouse, Foligno, or Lowry

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Gotta think Durzi's worth more. Maybe Walker?

No interest in Walker. lol

Habs fans who think Anderson is worth more than a defenseman who outscored him are cute.

Then you should keep Durzi and continue to be soft and porous on the D-end. Durzi's giveaways were egregious. He needs to be paired with a tough dman to be effective.

Josh Anderson is a needed commodity for the already soft Habs forwards.

 

[PostBradMalone]

Then you should keep Durzi and continue to be soft and porous on the D-end. Durzi's giveaways were egregious. He needs to be paired with a tough dman to be effective.

I’m the antithesis of a Kings fan lol. Durzi is flawed sure but even he is not “top six forward who struggles to hit 35 points at $5.5M a year” flawed. No one is giving you value for this player, just deal with it.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I’m the antithesis of a Kings fan lol. Durzi is flawed sure but even he is not “top six forward who struggles to hit 35 points at $5.5M a year” flawed. No one is giving you value for this player, just deal with it.

Josh Anderson is not available. Hughes indicated there was plenty of interest for Josh but no interest from the Habs to trade him.

No one is giving you Josh Anderson for Durzi. Get over it. Habs need toughness up front. Kings need toughness bad on the back-end. Hence the offer for Edmundston.

 

[Lockin17]

Something around Durzi for Anderson would be sweet if the Kings could make it work capwise

yeah for the Kings it would be not for the Habs.
Kovacevic is as good as Durzi on the right.

Edmundson (30% retained) for Durzi , i would make that deal, not for Anderson for Durzi + cap
Anderson is entertaning and a fans favorite, even though he dosen't bring the numbers he is fun to whatch.

 

[Omar23]

What the hell did you guys draft Byfield for

Good question

 

[HuGo Sham]

Habs fans who think Anderson is worth more than a defenseman who outscored him are cute.

your misplaced condescension and stat watching aside, Habs need a 20-25 goal power forward who can fight and play in the top 6, more than Durzi.
It's that simple. Gaslighting and smarminess aside, you might think you know what montreal needs, but you clearly don't

 

[Junohockeyfan]

What happened to Turcotte? Are Kings ready to move on from him?

 

[PostBradMalone]

Josh Anderson is not available. Hughes indicated there was plenty of interest for Josh but no interest from the Habs to trade him.

Weird that Hughes would intentionally harm his team’s rebuild by holding back trading a player who doesn’t fit their timeline then. That, or what he said wasn’t true. Which one is it?

No one is giving you Josh Anderson for Durzi. Get over it.

Ten minutes later, still not a Kings fan.

Habs need toughness up front. Kings need toughness bad on the back-end. Hence the offer for Edmundston.

Wasn’t Edmunson worth a 1st according to you folks? What happened to that?

your misplaced condescension and stat watching aside, Habs need a 20-25 goal power forward who can fight and play in the top 6, more than Durzi.

Lots of players could score 20 goals and drop the gloves once a season if force-fed minutes on a basement dweller. That again does not translate into value, especially at his cap hit.

It's that simple. Gaslighting and smarminess aside, you might think you know what montreal needs, but you clearly don't

Well I am not the brilliant Kent Hughes, who took a ten point forward 1st overall, so no I guess I don’t.

 

[JTeller97]

What happened to Turcotte? Are Kings ready to move on from him?

Can't stay healthy. He'd be a sure fire NHLer if he could stay right

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Weird that Hughes would intentionally harm his team’s rebuild by holding back trading a player who doesn’t fit their timeline then. That, or what he said wasn’t true. Which one is it?

The one where a rebuilding team still needs big, strong power-forwards who can fight and open up space for the younger players. He's exactly what the Habs need for the rebuild and at 28 years old is not exactly over the hill. I have no interest in trading Josh Anderson. Habs needed a player like him for decades.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Weird that Hughes would intentionally harm his team’s rebuild by holding back trading a player who doesn’t fit their timeline then. That, or what he said wasn’t true. Which one is it?



Ten minutes later, still not a Kings fan.



Wasn’t Edmunson worth a 1st according to you folks? What happened to that?



Lots of players could score 20 goals and drop the gloves once a season if force-fed minutes on a basement dweller. That again does not translate into value, especially at his cap hit.



Well I am not the brilliant Kent Hughes, who took a ten point forward 1st overall, so no I guess I don’t.

so much shit posting. you folks.
Slafkovsky is 18.
Lots of players could score 20 goals and drop the gloves
Who are they?

I've wasted enough time in this exchange

 

[Mersss]

Habs fans who think Anderson is worth more than a defenseman who outscored him are cute.

Funny thing is you think Durzi is a dman, considering how bad he is at defending his own zone.

Habs don't need a PP specialist if we are trading a 40-50pts PF