Speculation: Potential Coaching Replacements for Jim Montgomery

[4ORRBRUIN]

Would be fascinating to listen to the conversations going on behind closed doors - from management offices to the players in the locker room. For as much dysfunction going on, there's no valid rumors or leaks for us to kind of point a finger one way or another as to the cause of all of this.

I honestly think this core stops thinking about hockey when the buzzer goes off. Core needs some fresh blood, too many chock jobs with this group going back years.

Looks to me like its a country club that's why they all get along. Including the coach. All talk nothing changes.

 

[SpeedyLazaro]

agree with the country club mentality. I'm not trying to disparage any commitment to home and family, but these kids seem more interested in their gold retriever's instagram shoots and wedding pictures than playing a nasty brand of hockey.. looking at the 2 Charlie's in particular

 

[22Brad Park]

Dale Hunter.

The end.

Those guy's (Mark) have been unbelievable with London Knights .Was there not something about Capitals with Dale a while back?

 

[Dicky113]

They lost one difference maker up front in DeBrusk and brought in Lindholm.

Not saying they’re a cup favorite but they aren’t this bad.

Something is amiss and I think a coaching change could have a big impact…as we’ve seen many times over in this league.

Plus the back end should be much better.

It also looks like Marchand has aged out and their goalie isn’t stealing games. I hear you, but I think this has been coming and now that it’s here I don’t think coaching is the issue. That forward group just isn’t good enough to compete

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

They are playoff mode to early. Still need to win to get there

 

[sarge88]

It also looks like Marchand has aged out and their goalie isn’t stealing games. I hear you, but I think this has been coming and now that it’s here I don’t think coaching is the issue. That forward group just isn’t good enough to compete

10-15 more games of this and I might be there with you.

Still think (hope?) it’s a little early.

 

[Forester65]

I honestly think this core stops thinking about hockey when the buzzer goes off. Core needs some fresh blood, too many chock jobs with this group going back years.

Looks to me like its a country club that's why they all get along. Including the coach. All talk nothing changes.

Good call.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I felt his preseason was baffling as well. If you are trying to make change (or change) to the systems, fine and dandy. But why have this disjointed camp/preseason where we were still seeing AHL guys late into the exhibition schedule? He should of basically cut the roster halfway through and started to get the guys who he knew would be here better acclimated to the changes.

Confidence and motivation is also a huge problem right now. Across the board.

My thoughts exactly. The whole camp and preseason just seem to have been badly handled. The coaches made errors, and for whatever reason most of the players also seem to have returned from summer underprepared. Sweeney and co. have questions to answer too around their roster construction, but whatever its flaws this group should be better than what we've seen so far.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

agree with the country club mentality. I'm not trying to disparage any commitment to home and family, but these kids seem more interested in their gold retriever's instagram shoots and wedding pictures than playing a nasty brand of hockey.. looking at the 2 Charlie's in particular

Uh the reason I go to games and buy 20 dollar beers is for the intermission interviews where we can hear about them reproducing their dogs how much fun they had that summer etc and shame us normal folks that don't earn 5 mil a year.

Hope they rub it in more.

 

[The don godfather]

Doubt it happens shut it down.

 

[McGarnagle]

Neely will fire him at midnight on November 5th while everyone is wrapped up in election coverage

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Uh the reason I go to games and buy 20 dollar beers is for the intermission interviews where we can hear about them reproducing their dogs how much fun they had that summer etc and shame us normal folks that don't earn 5 mil a year.

Hope they rub it in more.

Jesus

 

[GordonHowe]

Joel Quenneville - Much maligned and deservedly so, he is one of the best coaches in NHL history. Does he deserve a second chance? Even if he does should it be with Boston?

Gerard Gallant - Very successful Vegas coach got a team low on talent to the Finals. His teams play fast, lunch pail hockey.

Mike Sullivan - Don’t know if he’ll be available but it seems like Pittsburgh is frustrated. Two time Cup champ understands the value of mismatches and is not afraid to play ‘talent’ on the third line.

Other suggestions? Sacco? Leach?

I like this first two suggestions. I would prefer Sullivan not return.

I doubt Sweeney and Neely will go outside of the organization, but at the direction of Charlie Jacobs, whom I like, they did so bringing in Peter Chiarelli and Claude Julian.

Hard no Sacco.

Leach is probably the guy.

I would not mind moving on from both Sweeney and Neely, though that is very unlikely to occur under present ownership. By that I mean the old man. I'm not even certain Charlie would jettison those two.

To me, this is all about Jim Montgomery, who is simply not an NHL head coach.

He cannot, or will not coach solid, system defense. He's all about the offense and team defense is an afterthought at best.

A worst, you have what you have at present. Chaos.

I wish him well, but not in Boston.

David Quinn

No.

nope, but if you are going BU, bad timing but Pandolfo

 

[GordonHowe]

I'm sure he would make a good coach, someday.

However, the Bruins are more or less in win now mode and breaking in a new NHL coach is not the brightest move.

As we see with Montgomery.

I would like a seasoned, experienced, defense first head coach who knows what the hell they are doing and is not constantly, chaotically, seed of the pants improvising


Montgomery learned a good deal last season, and I give him credit.

He will make a good offensive assistant coach, as he did in St Louis, or, more fitting still, hey college or Junior coach.

At the moment he is not a competent NHL head coach. And he is not the head coach the Boston Bruins need.

 

[GordonHowe]

If they sign Quenneville, they may as well bring back Mitchell Miller and also trade for Mailloux from the Habs. That simply is not going to happen.

He likely won't under Sweeney and nearly.

However, in spite of poor judgment at best relative to the Blackhawks situation, Joe quinville is in excellent excellent NHL coach.

I would take him in a heartbeat. After considering his baggage and poor judgment (at best) relative to same for a half heartbeat.

The Bruins under Sweeney and Neely could do much worse.

And probably will.

PS neither of those two are going anywhere anytime soon. Charlie likes them, and Charles will be In Charge soon enough if not already.

 

[GordonHowe]

Oooooooh. That's a good one.

That would be something else.

Alla Patrick on the Island, Touch in Vancouver and Berube in TO.

Hunter does not strike me as much the tactician or strategist. Whatever I think of Montgomery, Gail does not strike me as a coach who relates terribly well to players either. Especially young ones who get on his nerves.

I don't see it happening, and his shelf life would likely be vanishingly brief.

No way he keeps us in the thick of things.

I say keep Monty .

I say you should have some Doritos.

And whatever else.

I don’t see any move until Thanksgiving

I would agree, normally.

But this is not a normal circumstance and Montgomery is not a normal NHL head coach.

Clearly, at least to me, much of this can be laid at his feet. He is not, for the Thousand time, a competent NHL head coach who knows how to implement for execute any kind of defensive structure, plan, or scheme.

Which is why he is not suited to be an NHL coach at this time, if ever.

The Jim Montgomery experiment, has been, in my view, a failure.

The Bruins need a defense first head coach who understands the fundamentals of the game.

Clearly, I am merely a fan, and I'm certain Sunny Jim forgets more in a minute then I will ever know about the game of hockey.

But the team is a mess, and you can blame Sweeney and Neely. You can blame the roster, which used to say Sweeney and Neely.

You can blame the personnel and performance, and that would be certainly be legitimate.

But it's the coaching, and the head coach that are the basic problem.

I may be wrong. But I don't think so.

I'm just a fan.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Gallant

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

He likely won't under Sweeney and nearly.

However, in spite of poor judgment at best relative to the Blackhawks situation, Joe quinville is in excellent excellent NHL coach.

I would take him in a heartbeat. After considering his baggage and poor judgment (at best) relative to same for a half heartbeat.

The Bruins under Sweeney and Neely could do much worse.

And probably will.

PS neither of those two are going anywhere anytime soon. Charlie likes them, and Charles will be In Charge soon enough if not already.

I mean that’s pretty rough. You just wave away what he did as “poor judgement” and stand behind him as the leader of your franchise? Pretty low standards if you ask me.

 

[PlayMakers]

The Bruins were scheduled to practice today but instead were given the day off.

 

[GordonHowe]

Still think they gotta wait 20 games to do anything major.

Normally I would agree. But this is not a normal situation.

If they continue as they are, they could well be on the outside looking in sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't fire Montgomery tomorrow, but I'm not certain I would wake 3 weeks either.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

He likely won't under Sweeney and nearly.

However, in spite of poor judgment at best relative to the Blackhawks situation, Joe quinville is in excellent excellent NHL coach.

I would take him in a heartbeat. After considering his baggage and poor judgment (at best) relative to same for a half heartbeat.

The Bruins under Sweeney and Neely could do much worse.

And probably will.

PS neither of those two are going anywhere anytime soon. Charlie likes them, and Charles will be In Charge soon enough if not already.

Whatever one thinks personally about Quenneville and his time in Chicago, he will be eaten alive by the Boston media and public. No doubt about it. Impossible that he's hired by the Bruins.

 

[GordonHowe]

Gallant

He would probably burn out rather quickly. Yes his teams go through a wall for him, at least for a while.

But, as mentioned relative to deal hunter, the lot is likely not much of a tactician, strategist, or hockey brain.

If I could get JQ I would, immediately if not sooner.

 

[GordonHowe]

Whatever one thinks personally about Quenneville and his time in Chicago, he will be eaten alive by the Boston media and public. No doubt about it. Impossible that he's hired by the Bruins.

That's probably true if you're talking about Sweeney and Neely being in charge. Which, of course, you are for the foreseeable future.

I don't believe the Boston media would eat him alive. They're not that hungry. Or adept.

JQ sports one of the best win-loss records of any NHL coach, all time, I believe.

Don't forget, he coached in St Louis, and quite well, for many years prior to joining the Blackhawks.

Yes he had a loaded roster, but he also won three Cups in Chicago, and was doing quite well in Florida prior to stepping down.

It won't happen, but I would snatch up JQ immediately.

He is light stars better as an NHL head coach then Jim Montgomery is at present.

Stop the insanity!

Stop the half-assed chaos.

Which is why I am not sanguine about his longevity in the position.

Ogie Oglethorpe a bit more talent and none of the charm.

 

[GordonHowe]

Sort of irrelevant at this point. The coach isn't getting anywhere near the most out of the talent already on the roster

Precisely.

And again, Sweeney and Neely are not going anywhere as long as the Jacobs family, to include Charlie, who will be in charge, are around. Which used to say, forever.

I'm not even sure I want to move on from those two, a somewhat unbelievable position for me to take after all of these years of criticism.

But I see is a coach well above his head in almost every respect at the NHL level. The Bruins need an experienced, no nonsense defense first head coach who can think the game, in game and out.

That coach is not Jim Montgomery. That coach, ideally, to me is JQ.

2 times he can go f*** himself.

Fans lost their minds, rightly so when the B`s signed that kid Miller yet would welcome this toolbox?

Uh uh, not on my watch friends

On mine.

Sorry not sorry.

A good point, but look at these lines:

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Does that not look like desperation by a coach to you?

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Because I am getting the distinct smell of desperation from a coach.

IS Monty the problem? Don't know, I would agree with you its the players. But you cant change the players wholesale and we are at the bottom of the Atlantic on Halloween. SOMETHING has to change in the next week or two if they dont turn things around.

It's the coach.

It may be a personality may be the management. But mostly, it is the coach.

Montgomery cannot continue as the head coach of the Boston Bruins.

Period.

.

 

[GordonHowe]

I posted a lot yesterday about how he's been coaching like a desperate man all season so I agree. I also know that I haven't seen a single lineup I like. Every single combo of lines makes me go, "Oof, really?"

He coaches like a desperate man at the best of times.

There is no rhyme nor reason to what he does at the best of times.

He's grown, but it ain't enough. Get rid of him.